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Check 70 Trouble

I got a "check 70" displayed on a Honeywell 6150 fixed english keypad.
I went over the manual, program sheet but don't have the keypad
literature. The central got the trouble signal and the restore when I
reset the keypad when I finished the repairs.

Equipment list:

Ademco Vista 20se
4229 expander
System Sensor 2 wire smokes
IEI Glass break detectors (audio)
6150 keypad
All zones hardwired.

I had the system powered down while I cleaned all the smokes (3).
Then I repaired 2 burg zones with breaks.

Anyone know what a check 70 trouble is?

Thanks

Roger W.
 
C

Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
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Bell supervision trouble...check your siren/bell wiring...or just see if the
siren/bell runs.


|I got a "check 70" displayed on a Honeywell 6150 fixed english keypad.
| I went over the manual, program sheet but don't have the keypad
| literature. The central got the trouble signal and the restore when I
| reset the keypad when I finished the repairs.
|
| Equipment list:
|
| Ademco Vista 20se
| 4229 expander
| System Sensor 2 wire smokes
| IEI Glass break detectors (audio)
| 6150 keypad
| All zones hardwired.
|
| I had the system powered down while I cleaned all the smokes (3).
| Then I repaired 2 burg zones with breaks.
|
| Anyone know what a check 70 trouble is?
|
| Thanks
|
| Roger W.
|
 
R

Robert L Bass

Jan 1, 1970
0
Bell supervision trouble...check your
siren/bell wiring...or just see if the
siren/bell runs.

True. Also, if the red jumper has been
cut the gentleman will need a 1K-Ohm
EOL resistor across the siren terminals.
The factiry default (jumprt uncut) is an
unsupervised output.

Note to newbies: Do NOT install the EOL
resistor inside the panel. Place it at the
siren location.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

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Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>
 
Bell supervision trouble...check your siren/bell wiring...or just see if the
siren/bell runs.


Thanks. I never thought to look in the Addendum sheet dated 2/98 until
you mentioned it. Yep, there it is. CHECK 70. Trouble is I never cut
that jumper or connected a 2k resistor to the speaker. I know I'm
senile but not that bad.......yet. I must have shorted something when
I disconected the power to the driver.Thanks again, Crash.

Roger W.
 
C

Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
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speaker? ... i don't think you can supervise a speaker



| On Apr 4, 9:49 pm, "Crash Gordon" <[email protected]>
| wrote:
| > Bell supervision trouble...check your siren/bell wiring...or just see if
the
| > siren/bell runs.
| >
|
|
| Thanks. I never thought to look in the Addendum sheet dated 2/98 until
| you mentioned it. Yep, there it is. CHECK 70. Trouble is I never cut
| that jumper or connected a 2k resistor to the speaker. I know I'm
| senile but not that bad.......yet. I must have shorted something when
| I disconected the power to the driver.Thanks again, Crash.
|
| Roger W.
|
 
R

Robert L Bass

Jan 1, 1970
0
speaker? ... i don't think you can supervise a speaker

You can, but that's not the purpose of the EOL or the jumper on that panel. The output is 12VDC. Hook it directly to a speaker and
you'll probably just ruin the speaker. ABIK, the Vista-10SE should only be used with a siren, strobe or bell since there's no
on-board siren driver.

Occasionally people get confused about supervision when using separate siren driver and horn (speaker). In that case the EOL can be
installed across the bell output terminals (3 & 4 in the Vista-10SE). The speaker itself does not get an EOL resistor.

For clarity, some siren drivers provide a speaker supervision output. Usually it's a low current trigger that goes low (sinks
12VDC) if the speaker is disconnected. That is of course quite different from siren supervision.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>
 
C

Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
0
Well that's kinda what I meant...I guess you could supervise the 4" piece of
wire going to the siren driver...but I doubt you could supervise a speaker
without damage to something.



|> speaker? ... i don't think you can supervise a speaker
|
| You can, but that's not the purpose of the EOL or the jumper on that
panel. The output is 12VDC. Hook it directly to a speaker and
| you'll probably just ruin the speaker. ABIK, the Vista-10SE should only
be used with a siren, strobe or bell since there's no
| on-board siren driver.
|
| Occasionally people get confused about supervision when using separate
siren driver and horn (speaker). In that case the EOL can be
| installed across the bell output terminals (3 & 4 in the Vista-10SE). The
speaker itself does not get an EOL resistor.
|
| For clarity, some siren drivers provide a speaker supervision output.
Usually it's a low current trigger that goes low (sinks
| 12VDC) if the speaker is disconnected. That is of course quite different
from siren supervision.
|
| --
|
| Regards,
| Robert L Bass
|
| =============================>
| Bass Home Electronics
| 941-925-8650
| 4883 Fallcrest Circle
| Sarasota · Florida · 34233
| http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
| =============================>
|
|
 
R

Robert L Bass

Jan 1, 1970
0
Agreed. I explained for the benefit of the other gentleman. I realize you already know all this stuff.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
941-925-8650
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>
 
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