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  1. F Murtz

    F Murtz Guest

    I wish you people would stop talking about flashing CFL's cause mine
    just started flashing at the rate of about 130 flashes per min when off
    and is annoying (and now I have to get a ladder before I go to bed)
  2. F Murtz

    F Murtz Guest

    Update it stopped flashing a few minutes after switching off
  3. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    Try buying a decent brand !

  4. F Murtz

    F Murtz Guest

    So I should be forced by the government to spend $10 for a lamp that
    used to cost $1 If I don"t want flicker which I did not have with the $1
  5. **If you're dumb enough to pay $10.00 for a decent quality CFL, then you
    deserve what you get. I've never paid more than $6.00 (retail) for a quality
    (Philips) CFL. Except for my Par 38 replacements, of course. Further and for
    the record: I have CFLs everywhere I can put them and have done so for at
    least the last 5 years. I've had two failures:

    * One was a cheap, crappy one. I don't buy them anymore.
    * A possum sat on one. I now place the ones in the garage under protective

    Additionally: The ones in the bathrooms replaced the reflecting back jobbies
    (in those XLTastic fittings). They're 23 Watt Philips. Not only do they
    deliver more light (measured with a light meter), even now, after 3 years,
    then the incandescents they replaced, but the light is actually more evenly
    spread and I've saved money, both on power and replacing failed
    incandescents. I realise it is popular to bash CFLs, but I find them
    excellent for the task. Of course, I don't buy crap CFLs (anymore).
  6. Sylvia Else

    Sylvia Else Guest

    CFLs are cheaper than incandescents when all costs are considered.

  7. Phil Allison

    Phil Allison Guest

    "Stupider Than Anyone Else"

    ** 100% WRONG.

    ...... Phil
  8. Mr.T

    Mr.T Guest

    Phillips, "quality"? Not IME. Even had a couple dead from new!
    You mean there are worse ones than Phillips?
    (Mirrabella comes close I guess.)

  9. **Either you're unlucky, or I'm very lucky. At last count I have about a 20
    of the suckers all over the place. They all get used at least a couple of
    times a week. No failures with the Philips ones. Well, except for the one
    that the possum sat/fell/jumped on.
    **Well, yeah. Mirabella is really crappy.
  10. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    It's Philips btw and I've had no trouble with them except that the ultra cheap
    ones they have now, made in China aren't as long lived as the original
    European made ones. For the money, you can hardly complain though.

    I do however resent how their luminous output is compared to 'softone bulbs'
    instead of genuine GLS bulbs.

  11. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    Most of mine are Philips too. No reliability problems but shorter lifetime with
    the cheap Chinese made ones. They're rated at 6,000 hrs but you can get 9,000,
    12,000 and 15,000 hr CFLs from other sources. Osram were particularly good in
    that respect IME. I had one last over 6 yrs in a frequently used room.

  12. Phil Allison

    Phil Allison Guest

    "Eeysore = Graham Stevenson = POMMY **** "

    ** Philips CFLs sold here in Australia ARE from China


    Rural China, dirt floor shed, slave kiddie labour, dripping in poisonous

    fucking mercury ABSOLUTE GARBAGE re- badged as bloody

    " Philips " !!!! !!

    Peeeeee - fucking - uukkeeeeee !!!!

    Every half witted, vile, autistic, criminal Green party supporter

    should be made to fucking EAT the fucking things.

    And shit glass.

    ...... Phil
  13. terryc

    terryc Guest

    How old?. One of the heavy phillips has done quite a few years in the
    garage. It mate installed into the office just faded. Probably far more
    use and the fact that I do not need to read anything in the garage up
    that end.
  14. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    As they are here now too.

    I needn't ask if your brain is dsyfunctional.

  15. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    I can see you've never been inside a decent Chinese factory. Why would Philips
    use a cow shed to make CFLs when there's far better available for peanuts ?

    In fact, the best factory I've ever seen was in China ( Kwan Asia ) literally
    dripping with Audio Precision test gear.

  16. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    You bought a bad brand or there's a problem with your fitment.

    Please don't use the "greengrocers' apostrophe" btw.

    Simple plurals just need the adding of an s mostly. No apostrophe needed. I
    always chuckle when a apub publishes its menu as including " fish and
    chip's "..

  17. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    How do you account for the energy usage ? I was buying CFLs and seeing
    savings when they cost at least £10. Now you can buy them ( subsidised )
    for 30p or even less. That's less than a GLS lamp.

  18. ian field

    ian field Guest

    Time to fill the dart gun with powerful antipsychotic drugs!
  19. F Murtz

    F Murtz Guest

    How about C.F.L.S
  20. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    As opposed to CFLs ?

    I don't see your point.

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