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    I have been told by a catholic monsignor that about 300 years ago it was
    realised by measurement that a simple coil can be used for containment.

    They then realised the consequences and made a decision to suppress this
    fact.

    The theory they invented about electromagnetism was based on fluid flow of
    the magnetic flux through a loop of current.

    This made the mathematic easier and the idea that "god makes things perfect"
    was used to support this.

    Another man, Einstien, used the same idea about God's perfection to justify
    his partial fractions error to support the notion of mass increase to
    enforce the concept that velocities are limited to c and that light was
    special.

    God does not err but men do and God is not stupid either.

    See below:


    New Electricity

    Magnetic Field Due to Current

    The model proposed by Maxwell that relies on the current loop and is worked
    out by Gauss an example of fluid mechanics (to make the mathematics
    beautiful and easy), and is based around the Pythagorean philosophy of
    perfection is not only just a bit out by completely wrong based on the wrong
    principles. The correct answer is by using the concept of 4 -perspective
    with virtual photons emanating from individual electrons drifting through
    the fixed positive charges in a conductor. The relative movement of the
    charges makes an electrostatic force between current carrying conductors. I
    the case of alternating current the real photons emitted by the electrons as
    the change from one velocity to the next in the particle in a box ladder
    (quantum mechanics) interact with the electrons around them to cause them to
    change energy according to the rules of quantum mechanics. This gives rise
    to a calculation (integration round the loop) that shows that another
    current loop inside has a force of compression on it and a net force that
    tend to move it to a position symmetrical about the axis. The force is
    higher near the current loop and drops towards the axis. Measurements
    support this. Since a solenoid is a series of loop this is true for these
    too.

    The model of flux flowing through a loop of current is the concept that is
    wrong. The mathematics the gauss used is correct it is the physics that is
    wrong.

    Relativity - Affine Geometry?

    Abstract:

    Einstein addressed the twin paradox in special relativity in a relatively
    unknown, unusual and rarely cited paper written in 1918, in the form of a
    dialogue between a critic and a relativist. Contrary to most textbook
    versions of the resolution, Einstein admitted that the special relativistic
    time dilation was symmetric for the twins, and he had to invoke,
    asymmetrically, the general relativistic gravitational time dilation during
    the brief periods of acceleration to justify the asymmetrical aging.
    Notably, Einstein did not use any argument related to simultaneity or
    Doppler shift in his analysis. I discuss Einstein's resolution and several
    conceptual issues that arise. It is concluded that Einstein's resolution
    using gravitational time dilation suffers from logical and physical flaws,
    and gives incorrect answers in a general setting. The counter examples imply
    the need to reconsider many issues related to the comparison of transported
    clocks. The failure of the accepted views and resolutions is traced to the
    fact that the special relativity principle formulated originally for physics
    in empty space is not valid in the matter-filled universe. Einstein's
    special theory of relativity is about measurements between frames of
    reference in a state of non acceleration. It is an observation that the
    velocity of light is independent of the relative velocity between observer
    and the source. From this Lorenz postulated a length contraction to allow
    for this. Einstein derived the same equation from the observations. If you
    look at this equation there is no special frame so any frame may be taken as
    the reference frame. Let us consider the passage of mesons from the origin
    in the upper atmosphere to their arrival at a counter on the earth's
    surface. The observer "sees" the origin from his frame and since he is
    "looking" at the meson then this point is only a few feet above the
    laboratory roof because of the Lorenz contraction thus accounting for the
    short passage time. The "meson" "sees" the path it travels from the upper
    atmosphere to the surface as the same few feet as it is "looking" at the
    observer's reference frame.

    It seems to me that there is no real contraction, only an effect similar to
    perspective as a result of the way light travels and is only an appearance.
    Relativity is 4-space perspective. This would mean that a journey in a very
    fast space craft to a nearby solar system (say 10 light years) would take a
    time given after the length contraction and time contraction had been
    allowed for. (This is called the 4-velocity) I suggest that the 4-velocity
    is the "real" velocity and what we see is the result of 4-space perspective
    V=v/sqr(1-(v/c)^2) V is the 4-velocity and the velocity in all frames. It
    would therefore be possible for deep space journeys with a fast spacecraft
    in normal time spans. (By fast I mean velocities close to that of light -
    say closer than 99%c). It also strikes me that since all frames are
    equivalent the "Twin Paradox" does not occur the two brothers will agree
    both about the time and distance travelled.


    Since perspective is the projection of 3-space to 2-space then relativity is
    the projection of 4-space to 3-space.

    So even the man himself admitted his idea had been misinterpreted by his
    followers. The general theory relativity that deals with acceleration does
    not map well into special relativity because the forces on the objects do
    not influence signal exchanges in any way.

    If you think of the star ship journey in terms of a two dimensional space
    time diagram (other massive objects are too far away to be of any influence)
    then you have a hill. Now in normal hills the distance over the hill is
    longer than the distance along the flat, but in the relativity case the
    distance over the hill is shorter than the flat because it is a negative
    hill.

    That is because one of the dimensions is jct and the other is x now using
    Pythagoras the hypotenuse for this negative hill, which is really just a
    wobbly 'v' is 2*( x^2-(ct)^2)^0.5 and that is less than 2x. This is because
    we are in hyperspace. x is the "rest" distance and "t" is the time
    calculated at the x/v where v is the velocity. So the distance travelled is
    2*(x^2-(c(x/v))^2)^0.5. and that takes (that distance)/v in real time.

    The precise shape of the curve only means we need to do an integration along
    the curve VIS differential geometry, I get it now, with my brand new brain,
    fitted after they took out my old one a couple of months ago.

    Get it! So space travel is really very easy you just have to fast enough.

    "The faster you go, the quicker you get there" just like running a race!

    I didn't win!

    My understanding of special relativity is limited. However my opinion is
    that the contraction effects are a 4-perspective effect due to the constancy
    of the velocity of light, there is no physical contraction at all.

    My mind forms a concept of a ^ shaped hill of the space-time trajectory of a
    return particle path where the path over the hill is shorter that the path
    taken at rest or very slowly, so the higher the velocity the shorter the
    path over the hill. It is a metric space.

    The other related point is the relativistic momentum now since the path
    depends on the velocity then there is the notion of a real or true velocity
    v/gamma. In the momentum of a particle the momentum as measured by collision
    is m v/gamma so as the velocity increases the mass remains the same.

    In the derivation of the kinetic energy the formula:
    mv/sqr(1-(v/c)^2)

    may be separated into to partial fractions
    m x v/Sqr(1-(v/c)^2)
    then you integrate with respect to v from 0 to a number less than c to find
    the kinetic energy.

    This gives the solution mc2 for the rest mass energy as with the older
    Einstein version. He chose his method because of theological augment to make
    the maths easier: he said "God would not choose such a 'complicated'
    mathematics". God is not stupid either.

    This method gives the idea of a true or real velocity of v/sqr(1-(v/c)^2).
    However the time taken for a round trip works out different from the usual
    relativity theory, as in a Metric space.

    The general theory is a metric space where the distance shortest between
    adjacent points is given by a metric resulting from the sum mass + energy
    nearby. It could be represented by a matrix which could include the special
    theory as terms in the matrix to work out the distance between adjacent
    points.

    Again there is no real contraction it caused by 4-perpective due the metric
    caused by the constancy of the velocity of light.

    The metric is the way (a formula - a set of rules) we calculate the distance
    between points in a manifold. In ordinary Euclidian 3-space it is given by
    Pythagoras: s^2=x1^2+x2^2+x3^2. In Einstienian 4 space it is
    s^2=x1^2+x2^2+x3^2-(ct)^2 That is when nothing in the description is moving.
    When things move the usage is to measure distances, usually of the observers
    frame.

    The metric tensor then contains the elements that are involved is special
    relativity, transforming measurements from one frame to another. It
    transforms one 4-vector to another 4-vector in the general case which
    includes acceleration and gravity then the metric tensor contains these
    elements as well.

    But it still transforms from one 4-vector to another 4-vector in matrix
    multiplication.

    V2=V1 x M where M is the metric tensor.

    In the differential form the transformation is between adjacent points in
    4-space and using Fermat's theorem the path of least time can be found and
    this is a geodesic in the non Euclidian space near a massive object of a
    projectile moving at relativistic velocity - close to c.

    Another important path is where the projectile is powered by a rocket and
    here the object is accelerating.

    I would have thought total energy description - langranian type description
    may be easier in conjunction with Fermat's theorem of least time to compute
    the trajectory in space time as a series of 4-vectors.

    There is no electric field. The force between electrons is carried by
    virtual photons that connect one electron with one electron in another
    place. It is an exchange force. They do not drop in force with distance the
    density of photons varies with distance as the inverse square of the
    distance so the probability of interaction goes down with distance, for
    massive objects it gives you the inverse square law of coulomb.

    The electron itself is a photon that cannot propagate because of its own
    self gravity. The enclosed self energy is such that the photon cannot
    propagate. "Stuck light" in fact. This photon is waving outside the stuck
    place so its influence can be felt over an infinite distance. In fact, using
    the group x phase velocity = constant we have that for electrons the group
    velocity is 0 and the constant is c so the phase velocity is infinite. so
    for some interactions like entanglement (a consequence of Fermi (electrons
    come in pairs - up and down) ) then the change of an electron up to down
    that is tangled with it pair 10 light years away will be felt
    instantaneously and the other member of the pair will change from down to up
    with no loss of amplitude.

    This might be of interest too ...

    A virtual particle is one that does not exist (by definition).

    In classical electromagnetism radiation from a dipole there are two Hertzian
    waves, the space wave that leaves the dipole and carries energy and momentum
    with it and the induction field which does not radiate but whose energy
    passes back to to the radiator.

    The space wave is a radiant energy field whose power is E.X.H (the vector
    product of E and H) this is known as Poynting's (it is a man's name) vector
    this has a frequency f. Now this actually consists of (E x H)/hf photons per
    second each having an energy hf. These photons are the result of transitions
    inside the conductor of the dipole as the electrons jump from one level to
    another (according to microwave theory this is at the permitted frequency of
    the exciter) as they do so the emit a photon carrying the energy hf, the
    total momentum change. They do not weaken with the inverse square law they
    connect with another electron in a random manner such that all their energy
    and total momentum is taken up by the electron. The density of these photons
    diminishes as the inverse square of the distance and with the polar diagram
    of the radiator.

    The induction field is the one with the virtual photons they do not
    propagate and collapse back to their emitting electrons.

    Mutual and Self Inductance

    Mutual and Self Inductance are quantum mechanical effects involving photons
    inside the inductance. Think of Fyneman.


    The acceleration of charges generates photons according to hf where the
    frequency of the sinusoid exciter if f and h Planck's constant. The number
    of photons is the energy of the sinusoid divided by hf. These photons are
    emitted and absorbed during the cycle making inductance. The photons are
    emitted by one electron when it makes a transition to another level the step
    is at the energy corresponding frequency of the exciter it is connected only
    to one other electron that changes its energy by the same amount, the photon
    also caries the angular momentum associated with the transition, this is the
    change of angular momentum and the vector difference in momentum between the
    two energy states. The photons interact randomly without any loss of energy,
    momentum or angular momentum but the distribution of the interactions means
    that the density falls according to the inverse square law and the radiation
    polar diagram. This applies to mutual and self inductance and to normal
    radiation from a wire.

    When a solenoid is subjected to a step function then the photons have a
    distribution of frequency similar to a radiating black body (see Planck who
    worked out the messy equation) and are re-absorbed at the same time causing
    the effect of self inductance.

    If you make a single loop of wire bent into a circle and pass a regulated 1
    amp current through it you will make a "magnetic field". According to Gauss
    you have to imagine it is there and calculate accordingly. Then comes an
    extraordinary performance of human intellect beginning with the magnetic
    shells
    construction that shows that the field is uniform across the plane of the
    loop.

    According to Carl Popper we should now measure it to see. Using a compass as
    a tangent galvanometer with the earth's field as a reference you can measure
    the relative strength of the field in the region of the magnet by measuring
    its deflection (according to the field theory). I have done this and the
    field is about three times higher near the wire than at the centre. This
    disproves the magnetic shell construction.

    Another basic algorithm is the idea that a series of loops is like one loop
    multiplied. Well if you do the same thing for six turns then the compass
    measurement is the same near the wire than at the centre.

    This shows that the basic algorithm of what is true on one is true of many
    as one times the number of repetitions, is false.

    I would like to propose a different model: that the magnet is responding to
    spin-spin interactions as a quantum mechanical effect. These are entirely
    electrostatic in nature.

    The magnetic field does not exist it is fictitious.

    The model of the magnetic effect of current is in reality the Lorenz
    contraction of the moving electrons relative to the fixed charges in the
    wire and the electrostatic force is mediated by virtual photons.

    Since the electrons always occupy the same space in the wire even though
    they are moving it shows that special relativity is an effect like
    perspective.

    The inductive effect is in reality caused by the acceleration of electrons.
    Now these little charged particles are governed by quantum mechanics and the
    energy states up the ladder are discontinuous and the electrons jump from
    one state to the next the two states overlap and during the transition a
    fluctuation occurs and a photon emission occurs, just like the hydrogen
    spectrum.

    This photon interacts with just one electron in another wire or the same
    wire and imparts momentum and energy to change the electron from its
    original state to its new state. This also means that the photon carries
    momentum both
    linear and angular and energy.

    This is both mutual and self inductance.



    Electromagnetism


    Electromagnetism theory reached its pinnacle in the nineteenth century with
    Maxwell's famous equations.

    Let us take two examples.

    The case of two parallel conductors carrying current.

    1. Currents parallel.

    The current is a slow movement of electrons with fixed positive charges.
    The
    electrons are moving parallel in the two wires so are stationary relative to
    each other. The positive charges are seen as moving. According to
    Einstein's theory of relativity the length of the positive charge is
    contracted as seen
    by the electrons and so the electrons see an increased charge density over
    the charge density of the electrons. This makes the force of attraction
    between unlike charges slightly greater than the force of repulsion between
    unlike
    charges. This means that there is a net force of attraction.

    2. Currents anti-parallel.

    The electrons are now moving anti-parallel and so they see a length
    contraction of the other electron charge. The positive charges are also
    seen contracted but not as much. So the electrons are seen as having a
    greater charge density than the fixed positive charges. Thus the force of
    repulsion of like charges is greater than the force of attraction of unlike
    charges. This means there is a net force of repulsion. Induction. Consider
    two conducting wires parallel. One conductor has an alternating current
    flowing in it. This means that the electrons are accelerating and thus
    their electric field lines have a kink in them so there is a transverse
    component this field moves the electrons in
    the other wire. Thus producing an induced potential. The magnitude of the
    induced potential would be proportional to the rate of change of the current
    in the first conductor.
    Electromagnetism

    The reasoning below shows that there is no magnetic field it is a false
    concept. Iron filings are not an indication of strength at all. It is a
    fallacy.
    This theory is based around the special theory of relativity and the
    relative motion of electrons and fixed charges in a conductor.
    With alternating current the electrons are accelerating and generate photons
    at the exciting frequency and this radiation is responsible for other
    aspects of electromagnetism. This includes the induction of current in one
    conductor by alternating current in another.

    Electromagnetism theory reached its pinnacle in the nineteenth century with
    Maxwell's famous equations.

    Let us take two examples.

    The case of two parallel conductors carrying current

    1. Currents parallel.

    The current is a slow movement of electrons with fixed positive charges.
    The electrons are moving parallel in the two wires so are stationary
    relative to each other. The positive charges are seen as moving. According
    to Einstein's theory of relativity the length of the positive charge is
    contracted as seen by the electrons and so the electrons see an increased
    charge density over the charge density of the electrons. This makes the
    force of attraction between unlike charges slightly greater than the force
    of repulsion between unlike charges. This means that there is a net force of
    attraction.

    2. Currents anti-parallel.

    The electrons are now moving anti-parallel and so they see a length
    contraction of the other electron charge. The positive charges are also
    seen contracted but not as much. So the electrons are seen as having a
    greater charge density than the fixed positive charges. Thus the force of
    repulsion of like charges is greater than the force of attraction of unlike
    charges. This means there is a net force of repulsion.

    Induction
    Consider two conducting wires parallel. One conductor has an alternating
    current flowing in it. This means that the electrons are changing their
    energy and emit photons at the exciting frequency these are emitted in
    random directions like a messenger with the energy change and momentum
    (angular and linear) and these are absorbed by electrons in another
    conductor nearby and this information is transferred by photon collision to
    make the electrons in the other wire move thus inducing an current.

    In all these cases no magnetic field was required to account for the
    phenomena involved. So invoking Occum's razor, the magnetic field in not
    required and so does not exist. Consider two long straight copper conductors
    each carrying the same current in the same direction. The electrons move
    together at the same velocity in each cable. They repel one another. The
    fixed positive charges repel each other. However the electrons wire A
    attract the fixed charges in wire B but because the electrons are moving
    relative to the fixed charges they will see a higher charge density than the
    charge density due to the electrons in B so the attraction of electrons to
    fixed positive charges is higher than the repulsion between the
    same number of electrons in B. Similarly for electrons in wire B and the
    fixed positive charges in wire A. n=number of atoms per meter e=electronic
    charge d=separation l=length P=permittivity v=drift velocity of electrons
    c=velocity of light
    The force of repulsion is P*2*((e*n)^2)*l /d (= F)
    And the force of attraction is P*(2*((e*n)^2)*l/d)/sqr(1-(v/c)^2)
    So the resultant force is F-F/sqr(1-(v/c)^2)=F(1-1/sqr(1-(v/c)^2))
    =F(1-(1-(v/c)^2)^(-1/2))
    =F(1-(1+(1/2)(v/c)^2))
    = F(v/c)^2/2
    = (P*2*((e*n)^2)*l/d)(v/c)^2/2
    = (P/c)*(((e*n*v)^2)*l/d)
    =(P/c)*i^2*l/d (e*n*v=i)
    So P/c is the "permeability" and the force is proportional to the current
    squared and the length but inversely proportional to the separation. There
    is no need for the idea of the magnetic field. There is no magnetic field

    Experimental Test

    Karl Popper has explained the scientific method. Use the predictions of the
    theory and test experimentally when judging a philosophical idea.

    Science in only science if you carry out experiments to test the theories of
    yourself or another. To play philosophical games with words and equations
    is not science.

    Go get a bit of wire make a straight part 40 cm long and connect it to a
    constant current source of say 1 amp.

    Get the old electrostatic kit out of the 18th century box and using a glass
    rod wiped with silk make a pith ball coated with gold leaf charged by
    bringing the glass rod close to the ball and touch the ball briefly with a
    finger. The ball will be repelled by the glass rod.

    Put the pith ball (suspended by a silk thread from a curved glass stand)
    near the wire and note the deflection from the vertical when the current is
    switched on.

    I predict it will be repelled if negatively charged and attracted if
    positively charged. (confirmed)
    A bar magnet is in fact a group of spinning electrons which are coupled by
    spin-spin interactions (Quantum mechanics) that are mediated by virtual
    photons again a force that is electronic and connected to the Lorenz
    contraction.. The force on another bar magnet is actually due to spin-spin
    interactions (Quantum mechanics) which is electronic and related to the
    Lorenz contraction. A loop of wire carrying a current is again interacting
    with another current carrying conductor by the electrostatic force (mediated
    by virtual photons) and is again a result of the Lorenz contraction. The
    calculation to use is the biot-savart hypothesis (force between current
    elements) integrated. In view of this new insight we should re-name
    magnetism as the "Lorenz force". It also means that many of our reasoning
    based on observations made 300 years ago before Einstein developed his
    special theory of relativity are misconceived as they are based on the wrong
    model.

    The Gaussian construction of magnetic shells does not come into it there is
    no magnetic flux or lines of force.

    As a disclaimer I will point out that I am not the first or only person to
    point this out.


    String Theory

    String theory started as a simple way of modelling the characteristics of
    elementary particles as the result wave movement on a tiny circular string
    so that the various quantum states that produce particles are dependant on
    the number of standing waves around this string So more massive particles
    with more energy had more nodes in the waves thus more waves around the
    string.

    Going back from this, the idea came from an electromagnetic representation
    of a particle as a photon going in a circle trapped by its own self gravity.
    So a photon pair when collided can form a little circulating standing wave
    and the electrical energy so contained makes for a gravitational bending of
    space so that the photon travels in a circle, when there is only one
    wavelength round a particle is formed in its ground state and thus lowest
    mass, higher energy states occur with more waves and thus higher frequency.
    The relationship of the trapped energy to frequency gives Planck's constant.
    It is discontinuous because only some combinations of wavelength to circular
    path and gravitational curvature fit.

    I originally discussed this with Jonathan in about 1967-1968, he thought
    straight strings with mass and tension was easier to calculate, hence
    "string theory", when we were both working at the Rutherford Laboratory,
    Oxford. The original Idea, that I had in about 1961, was based on a
    unification of Gravity and Electromagnetism and Quantum Mechanics. The
    theory was much simpler than it sounds. Basically it said that
    Electromagnetic fields had energy and the energy content warped space time
    according to General Relativity so if the Electromagnetic field was strong
    enough the Gravitational effect would make the electromagnetic wave orbit
    and not travel. This trapped wave then is a particle. You have then to
    quantize it by saying that the Energy of the wave is related to its
    frequency by the Planck equation and then that only integer wavelengths are
    allowed round one of these orbits. These trapped waves form all our
    particles. They have different frequencies and can form from more than one
    frequency photons hybridising, so that a very large number of separate
    particles may come into existence.The radius of the tron to stop light
    escaping (the Swartzchild radius) is when the escape velocity equals the
    velocity of light. I make this:
    given by Gm/r^2=c........1 (This is the escape
    velocity at distance r from m (I think if I remember correctly))
    and the energy of the mass m as:
    E=mc^2.
    The frequency of light of this energy is given by the Planck equation:
    E=hf
    So f=mc^2/h ... This is the frequency of the
    photon to make up a mass m.
    Now for a photon wave to fit the Swartzchild circumference so it goes round
    an integer wavelength times, then (fL=c) and nL=2.pi.r so nc/f=2.pi.r
    so nc/(mc^2/h)=2.pi.r.......2
    Solving these two conditions for m gives:
    m=2(c/G)r^2 and m=n(h/2.pi)(1/r) where n is a positive integer.
    This gives a series of increasing values of m with each n as m increases
    then r increases By eliminating r and taking n=1 we can get an interesting
    relation between fundamental constants: h=2.pi.sqr(G(m/c)^3) where m is the
    mass of the electron. I do not know if this works out.

    Here is a more general relation:

    If the energy of an element of a electromagnetic wave is E^2/c where E is
    the local electric field then the equivalent elemental mass is given by the
    relation dmc^2=E^2/c. so dm=E^2/c^3. The gravitational force between
    elemental masses is Gdm1.dm2/(r12)^2 So the gravitational binding energy of
    the whole wave is:
    GSum(dm(n).dm(n)/(r(m,n))^2) over all m,n m<>n.

    For a particular element this sum is the energy at that point:

    GSum(dm.dm(m)/r(m)^2) goes to GIntegral(dm.dm/r^2)

    The differential form is Gdm/r

    Using the plank relation hf=energy then f=energy/h and energy is potential
    plus kinetic. The potential energy is the
    gravitational potential and the kinetic energy is Poynting's electromagnetic
    vector as a scalar.
    So f=-Gdm/r/h+E^2/hc
    So f=-GE^2/hrc^3+E^2/hc=E^2((-G/hc^3)(1/r)+1/hc)
    f=E^2/hc((G/c^2)(-1/r)+1)

    I can't go any further, but it looks like a relation between r, E and f that
    can be made into a differential equation that will give a similar equation
    to the Schrödinger equation for an electron orbital, but instead applying to
    the photon trapped by gravity to form the electron. I think Schrödinger
    itself could be a case where the proton wave and the electron wave interact
    to make something new.

    When a Proton (very heavy) unites with an electron to form a hydrogen atom
    it is known that the photons that make them up interact so that the electron
    occupies more space as Schrödinger said, with the proton photons interacting
    by interference with the electron photon the Electron Proton pair having
    lower energy than either separately and the bonding changing the photon in
    the electron's behaviour. In fact the electron may end up surrounding the
    proton with the proton inside the electron so the photons that make them up
    form an interference pattern that is the atom. So an electron is therefore a
    photon that has been trapped, or frozen, by its own mass/energy
    gravitational field so it cannot propagate. So all particles are like this
    and are made of photons of various frequencies, and indeed there could be
    particles containing more than one photon.
    There is no electric field.
    The force between electrons is carried by virtual photons that connect one
    electron with one electron in another place. It is an exchange force. They
    do not drop in force with distance the density of photons varies with
    distance as the inverse square of the distance so the probability of
    interaction goes down with distance, for massive objects it gives you the
    inverse square law of coulomb. The electron itself is a photon that cannot
    propagate because of its own self gravity. The enclosed self energy is such
    that the photon cannot propagate. "Stuck light" in fact. This photon is
    waving outside the stuck place so its influence can be felt over an infinite
    distance. In fact, using the group x phase velocity = constant we have that
    for electrons the group velocity is 0 and the constant is c so the phase
    velocity is infinite. so for some interactions like entanglement (a
    consequence of being fermions (electrons come in pairs - up and down) ) then
    the change of an electron up to down that is tangled with it pair 10 light
    years away will be felt instantaneously and the other member of the pair
    will change from down to up with no loss of amplitude.
    This might be of interest to ... A virtual particle is one that does not
    exist (by definition). In classical electromagnetism radiation from a dipole
    there are two Hertzian waves, the space wave that leaves the dipole and
    carries energy and momentum with it and the induction field which does not
    radiate but whose energy passes back to to the radiator. The space wave is a
    radiant energy field whose power is E.X.H (the vector product of E and H)
    this is known as Poynting's (it is a man's name) vector this has a frequency
    f. Now this actually consists of (E x H)/hf photons per second each having
    an energy hf. These photons are the result of transitions inside the
    conductor of the dipole as the electrons jump from one level to another
    (according to microwave theory this is at the permitted frequency of the
    exciter) as they do so they emit a photon carrying the energy hf, the total
    momentum change (think of it like a messenger). They do not weaken with the
    inverse square law they connect with another electron in a random manner
    such that all their energy and total momentum is taken up by the electron.
    The density of these photons diminishes as the inverse square of the
    distance and with the polar diagram of the radiator. The induction field is
    the one with the virtual photons they do not propagate and collapse back to
    their emitting electrons.
    Try thinking in terms of photon "messenger". It looks like a short burst of
    electric wobbles, but in fact it is the signal from a distant electron
    interfering with itself as it settles to its new state. The influence is the
    electron itself waving that is felt at a distance.

    Spectra
    It is in reality the "stuff" of matter interacting with another matter a
    distance away.

    The electron is energy (shall we say a disturbance in the shape of electric
    space) that cannot propagate because the energy it made changes the geodesic
    it is in into a loop so it gets stuck. This can influence other electrons at
    a distance after a propagation delay as their wave functions interact.

    Quantum mechanics says electrons are fermions and exist in pairs, when one
    changes from up to down the other changes from down to up.

    The group velocity x phase velocity = c for electrons for an electron the
    group velocity is zero so the phase velocity is infinite so the change of
    state is instantly communicated from one of a fermion pair to the other.

    This makes instant one to one comunication without loss over big distances.

    Quantum teleportation is where a photon interferes with the stuck photon of
    a particle of matter and the phase shift makes the particle teleport to
    another location (strange behaviour). This is observable in bubble chamber
    photographs.





    Not what you think at all.

    I am imperfect, my face slashed because I said the 'church' erred, men err
    not God.
     
  2. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    Radium ? Is that you ?

    Graham
     

  3. More proof that you don't need a brain to post to Usenet. :(


    --
    Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
    prove it.
    Member of DAV #85.

    Michael A. Terrell
    Central Florida
     
  4. Turn your aluminium beanie about 5 degrees counter clockwise.
     
  5. "University Physics", by Sears, Zemansky and Young, derives constancy of
    the speed of light (and electromagnetic waves in general) in free space
    (vacuum) with respect to any observer without partial fractions. The
    speed of light in open space is the square root of the ratio of K' to
    4*pi*Eo.

    This mass increase business is derived elsewhere in that same book using
    this constancy of the speed of light.

    - Don Klipstein ()
     
  6. : Me wrote:

    :> I have been told by a catholic monsignor that about 300 years ago it was
    :> realised by measurement that a simple coil can be used for containment.

    : Radium ? Is that you ?

    No. There is more than one loony in the bin. Unfortunately, "Chris" shows
    signs that he really is suffering from schizophrenia.
     
  7. Me

    Me Guest

    all books are works of man and are as right as the bloke who put the squgly
    lines on the paper.

    take your bible and chuc it in the bin. try comic cuts instead.

    There is no mass can increase with velocity it is simple mistake in partial
    fractions.

    Vis: momentum = m (v/sqr(1-(v/c)^2) now the mathematically illiterate albert
    who also could not spell nor speack the aunglasise because he was a jerry,
    made the very follish and absolutely blatent error of separating to bits of
    the fraction that both contain v. in partial fraction theory as ever 9 year
    old algebraists knows the same symbols stay together.

    The final solution to this essentially Jewish problem is that
    momentum is v x v/sqr(1-(v/c)^2) and the messy integration for the rocket
    equation gives the right answer as will as the 4-velocity v/sqr(1-(v/c)^2).
    this is also the velocity all obsevers agree when huge spacships 5 miles in
    diameter and 10 miles long get up to their terminal velocity of 10,000 c.

    you can work out v from that. It is what is called a metric, and you can go
    back and suck you right thumb off now.

    Do you know any metric space theory? The special theory is just a special
    case. You don't know any eistien do you?

    The church put that spanner in the works because they do not want it known
    that Jesus was a man from space who got here in a super optic starship,

    You are probably a christian psychopath.
     
  8. Me

    Me Guest

    elecromagnetic waves are fiction. magnetism does not exist, there are no
    fields only photons carrying numbers stamped on them and they are non
    locallised not fade away and act point to point (fynaman).

    chuck the book in the bin it is out of date.
     
  9. pdraganov

    pdraganov Guest

    Me íàïèñà:
    You can take a look at http://www.distinti.com about new
    elektromagnetism
     
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