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Discussion in 'Security Alarms' started by Bob La Londe, Feb 8, 2007.

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  1. Bob La Londe

    Bob La Londe Guest

    I remember about a million years ago... or maybe it was last week. I read
    about the Cat 5 standard and how it was done to allow for the future
    speration and operation of voice and data over the same cable.

    A couple weeks ago, or maybe a few years ago I remember discussing this with
    somebody and wondering why all the current applications and standards seem
    to ignore that and have us running seperate cat 5 cables for voice and data.
    Then I found this on Napco's website under structured wiring:

    Securi-Smart NET8
    Securi-Smart NET8, the only wiring system on the Market that provides for 2
    Telephone Lines and a 10/100 Base Ethernet connections over a single CAT5e
    wire.

    LOL. How interesting. I need to keep up with the product innovations of my
    own main alarm provider.


    --
    Sincerly,
    The guy who makes the final decision on who we buy from.
    Bob La Londe

    The Security Consultant
    Bob La Londe - Owner
    P.O. Box 5720
    Yuma, Az 85366

    (928) 782-9765 ofc
    (928) 782-7873 fax

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  2. Jim

    Jim Guest

    As far as I know, this is nothing new. Only when necessary but when
    I've had to, I've run both telephone and data on one Cat 5. Also have
    run two data lines on one Cat 5. It's only been in residential, so
    maybe it's just the short runs that have allowed it to be trouble
    free.
     
  3. West Alarm

    West Alarm Guest


    It's not that flocking complicated....


    Ethernet uses 4 conductors, a phone line uses two conductors.


    add it up...

    Ethernet 4
    phonel1 2
    phonel2 2

    equals 8

    Wow! what a flocking breakthrough Napco made!

    I want to sell you a London bridge in Arizona.. ohhh, nevermind-- I
    see you're on the dealer list! hahahah
     
  4. Steve

    Steve Guest

    Its possible, but not preferred practice
     
  5. Bob La Londe

    Bob La Londe Guest


    I was just laughing about it. The original standards was to allow that use,
    and then all the new standards seem to ignore it, and then Napco re-invents
    the wheel.


    --
    Sincerly,
    The guy who makes the final decision on who we buy from.
    Bob La Londe

    The Security Consultant
    Bob La Londe - Owner
    P.O. Box 5720
    Yuma, Az 85366

    (928) 782-9765 ofc
    (928) 782-7873 fax

    Licensed Contractor
    ROC103044 & ROC103047
     
  6. Crash Gordon

    Crash Gordon Guest

    cat 6 is a pain.

    and to tell ya the truth...I dunno why the heck we're running Cat in
    residential anyway...with cheaper/better/easier wifi available it's dumb to
    run all this cat stuff these days.

    yah but I do it too, but I only run two or three Cat lines for puter ports -
    kitchen, office, den or whatever.




    |
    | | >I remember about a million years ago... or maybe it was last week. I
    read
    | >about the Cat 5 standard and how it was done to allow for the future
    | >speration and operation of voice and data over the same cable.
    | >
    | > A couple weeks ago, or maybe a few years ago I remember discussing this
    | > with somebody and wondering why all the current applications and
    standards
    | > seem to ignore that and have us running seperate cat 5 cables for voice
    | > and data. Then I found this on Napco's website under structured wiring:
    | >
    | > Securi-Smart NET8
    | > Securi-Smart NET8, the only wiring system on the Market that provides
    for
    | > 2 Telephone Lines and a 10/100 Base Ethernet connections over a single
    | > CAT5e wire.
    | >
    | > LOL. How interesting. I need to keep up with the product innovations
    of
    | > my own main alarm provider.
    |
    |
    |
    | At less than 10 cent per foot per cable, I usually run 2 Cat 5e (solid)
    | cables to each data/phone location. Same with Coax- 2 RG6 Quads- 1 white &
    1
    | black. Allows flexibility later on. Many of the "pros" are now using Cat 6
    | and/or fiber for data.
    |
    |
     
  7. Anders

    Anders Guest

    Securi-Smart NET8, the only wiring system on the Market that provides for
    Actually it's NOT RECOMMENDED. Phone lines are relatively speaking
    high voltage compared to Ethernet. Even if you don't get continous
    interference issues, there is a good chance you'll see transients
    coming in over the phone line that may interfere or even physically
    harm the Ethernet connected equipment.

    Gigabit Ethernet uses all four pairs in the cable, so upgrading the
    network is out of the question.

    Also, if you ever crosswire the phone line into a network card you
    have a good chance of creating smoke.

    This is like swapping colors in an electric install. Sure the green
    wire works just as well as the black for "hot", but the guy that
    comes after you may get a surprise...

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  8. West Alarm

    West Alarm Guest


    What is all the hub-bub about the quad shield coax?
     
  9. Barney

    Barney Guest

    if you're in the big city it helps to keep out interference
     
  10. Frank Olson

    Frank Olson Guest

    West Alarm wrote:


    Is it anything like wearing an extra condom?
     
  11. Doug

    Doug Guest

    Probably not

    Doug

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