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  1. Radium

    Radium Guest

    Hi:

    Why is silicon needed in the 1st place? For that matter, why any semi-
    conductor? Why not just use the copper electric circuits? Semi-
    conductors are half-way between conductor and insulator?

    Couldn't air be used as a "semiconductor"? I assume that the voltages
    used by chips' circuit could pass through air if the distance between
    the copper conductor is close enough -- though this would decrease the
    amperages, as the current has to flow to air [a powerful insulator]. I
    guess [assuming a constant voltage and constanst air density] that a
    greater distance between the coppers will result in a lower amperage
    while a closer distance
    will result. Then there is a point where the distance is too great for
    electricity [at voltages used by chips' circuits] to flow through the
    air gap. A higher voltage can generate current at greater distances
    between coppers, than a lower voltage can. Right?

    AFAIK, in digital integrated circuits:

    1 = higher amperage

    0 = lower amperage

    So a 1 would consist of shorter gaps between coppers [to increase the
    amperage], while a 0 would consist of longer gaps between coppers [to
    decrease the amperage].

    One problem is see involves, how to store the current. Maybe certain
    types of electrets that do not permanently store electricity? Or maybe
    storage isn't even necessary, if the spaces between coppers make up
    the configuration of the electronic information.


    Thanks,

    Radium
     
  2. sparky

    sparky Guest

    Air is used by a conductor by nature. Hard to control ! Think
    Lightning!
     

  3. Think before posting. Radium is a Troll.


    --
    Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
    prove it.
    Member of DAV #85.

    Michael A. Terrell
    Central Florida
     
  4. jasen

    jasen Guest

    It is.

    an air based semiconductor called a "spark gap" is used in power
    stage of a tesla coil.

    Bye.
    Jasen
     
  5. Radium

    Radium Guest

    Um, I was asking if this air-spacing could be used as a "semi-
    conductor" in PCs.
     
  6. Don Bowey

    Don Bowey Guest

    Google is your friend. It doesn't care that you are a lazy troll.
     
  7. John Larkin

    John Larkin Guest

    Metals conduct by electron movement. Semiconductors conduct by
    electron and hole movement. So you can play a lot more tricks with
    semiconductors. For example, you can't make a diode with just metals.

    Air pretty much doesn't conduct at all. The closest you can get to an
    active device using air is maybe a triggered spark gap; it would be
    tough to design a TV set using only triggered spark gaps.

    John
     
  8. John Fields

    John Fields Guest

     
  9. Radium

    Radium Guest

    Okay. What compromises the possibility of using microscopic spark gaps
    in place of silicon in computer chip?

    I fantasize about a microprocessor chip made up of extremely small
    spark gaps in place of semiconductor solids. Any chance of this
    fantasy becoming reality? If not, then why?

    One potential advantage of this chip -- that I can think of -- would
    be the ability to tolerate high-voltage static electricity and high
    temperatures that would certainly damage the chips used in today's
    PCs.
     
  10. sparky

    sparky Guest



    Sometimes he uses Massiveprong and he used to
    go by Altivar years ago.
     
  11. Radium

    Radium Guest

    I've searched Massiveprong and came up with tons of posts -- all spams
    and trolls. What about Altivar? As hard as I tried to look, I could
    not find any posts by Altivar.

    I have tried to find Altivar's posts but failed. I am now getting VERY
    frustrated.

    WHERE THE ___________________ ARE THE POSTS BY
    **ALTIVAR**??????????????????????????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!

    Sorry for my harshness but I just cannot find posts under the name
    "Altivar". Will someone please please please please show me posts
    under the name "Altivar", before I get really angry and do something
    that I'll eternally
    regret???????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!

    http://groups.google.com/groups/sea..._miny=1981&as_maxd=18&as_maxm=3&as_maxy=2007&

    Once against I apologize bigtime for my rudeness ever so profusely but
    I am really flustered right now. Its like trying to solve an
    ^^extremely^^ difficult math problem and failing miserably.

    http://groups.google.com/groups?as_...81&as_maxd=30&as_maxm=3&as_maxy=2007&safe=off

    Maybe its this guy:

    http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=8_H44A0AAABd9OOQsnJJljoyZuldtA6a&hl=en

    Though, mostly likely not.

    This is all I found. None which relate to trolling or spamming.

    http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=ljCRsA0AAACrmFtMh8dRE6tBySg_DZsY

    This is "Lord Altivar", not "Altivar", there is a huge huge
    difference.

    The email address of Lord Altivar -- not Altivar -- is:
    mpara_at_rpa_dot_net

    His posts are responses are non-trollish non-spamish responses to
    posts. He never started any threads.

    From: "Lord Altivar" <>
    Subject: Re: !!Book Question!!
    Date: 1999/09/21
    Message-ID: <7sa5lg$>#1/1
    X-Deja-AN: 528169659
    References: <> <7ru755$n8n
    $> <>
    Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com
    X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3
    Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.cyber

    I would be willing to check my local gaming supply store I think they
    still had some of the old stuff I could check... also I have the book
    so I could take a day to scan the whole thing in for proper
    compensation seeing as it is a felony to pirate copies...

    From: "Lord Altivar" <>
    Subject: Re: An ICQ Activelist for Cyberpunk?
    Date: 1999/09/21
    Message-ID: <7sa5o8$>#1/1
    X-Deja-AN: 528169660
    References: <7rb76m$738$>
    Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com
    X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3
    Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.cyber

    Include me if you would #5218013
     

  12. Have you ever looked at the full headers?

    --
    Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
    prove it.
    Member of DAV #85.

    Michael A. Terrell
    Central Florida
     
  13. Humidity will screw you all up.
     
  14. MassiveProng

    MassiveProng Guest


    Sparky is an idiot. He wouldn't even know what headers are.

    He guesses at everything he does in life, and this stupid crap he
    has posted makes that perfectly obvious.

    RaidiTurd and AltiTurd or whoever the **** they are, are other
    people, not me.

    Get a life, ya fucking retards.
     
  15. Radium

    Radium Guest


    Well, will someone please answer my
    question????????????????????????????????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
     
  16. Don Bowey

    Don Bowey Guest

    What could that possibly be? Throw a bigger tantrum?
    (snip)

    You are really pathetic.

    Go away.
     
  17. Radium

    Radium Guest

    Then please show me some posts from the real "Altivar".
     
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    Radium Guest

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