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Camcorder Recommendations

Discussion in 'Electronic Design' started by Jim Thompson, Nov 11, 2007.

  1. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    New grandson, 15 year old _dead_ camcorder :-(

    What's the newest game in town that you would recommend?

    Price is _almost_ no object, I have so many freebie points available
    on my Amex that I probably won't have to spend a dime for most things
    I've seen.

    ...Jim Thompson
     
  2. I think he said 'almost' ;-)
    15 years is still very young, things get smashed.
     
  3. It's quite cheap, actually, for the performance it gives.

    The OP did say "newest game in town", so I gave it. He didn't ask for
    a camera/phone. Maybe his kid is talented, who noes?


    Martin
     
  4. Tam/WB2TT

    Tam/WB2TT Guest

    If you expect to do any editing, you are probably best off with a tape based
    camcorder. If this is an HD camcorder, you really need to dig in to the
    tradeoffs between tape, Hard Drive, semiconductor, and DVD. People I know
    who are into this seem to sneer at the DVD based recorders.

    Tam
     
  5. Meat Plow

    Meat Plow Guest

    Sony digital (kind that uses a tape). I have a small Mini DV Sony that
    takes wonderful movies in 16:9 or 4:3. Has a touch screen display, Super
    Night Vision, remote, USB etc...etc... and fits in the palm of your hand.
     
  6. Tam/WB2TT

    Tam/WB2TT Guest

    I have seen really bad reviews on the touch screen, and would go with Canon
    or Panasonic. Most important is to be sure it works with whatever editing
    program you plan to get, Adobe, Pinnacle, and Roxio; probably in that order.

    I have a non HD Canon (16:9 & 4:3) and use it mostly with Pinnacle Studio.
    For low light use, the Panasonic is a lot better because of the 3 CCD
    pickup.

    Tam
     
  7. Quantsuff

    Quantsuff Guest

    I'll probably get totally flamed for even thinking this... But my
    recommendation is to get a Casio EX-V7 Camera.

    Last year, on a trip to Japan I bought a Sony DVD - I have the DCR mini-dV
    at home but did not want to lug the camera around so I could transfer images
    and video into the computer. The DVD concept was neat as heck, and the super
    Night shot was great! But, within a month, I'd given up using it - it was a
    power-hog and the DVD's were prone to errors.

    Then I bought the under-$300 Casio camera - a 7-MPix camera with a 7x
    optical zoom that also takes hi-res Mpeg4 video with stereo sound (playable
    with Quicktime and others). It uses SD and SDHC cards - currently up to 8GB
    capacity are available and you can fit about 1 hour of video on each GB. The
    package is about the size of a deck of playing cards without any protruding
    lens. I've since taken over 40 hours of video and untold hundreds of images
    with excellent results. And I can carry it everywhere all the time in my
    jacket pocket.

    So, get the Sony or the recommended 3-ccd job, but get the Casio as well. In
    all likelyhood, you'll end up using the little digicam more that all your
    other video toys put together!

    QS
     
  8. The new Hi-Def MiniDV's are out. While that may sound great, they
    store compressed video onto the tape, in contrast to standard MiniDV's
    which store raw uncompressed data. Haven't tried one though so can't
    comment.

    One's with a 3 CCD sensor have much better low light performance.

    "True" 16:9 widescreen performance is a must have i.e. a widescreen
    sensor and not just a software solution where you sacrifice
    resolution. No reason to shoot 4:3 these days.

    Definitely get a MiniDV tape, and not the hard drive or DVD versions.

    External MIC input and mounting point is very nice. Most of the
    cheapies with the built-in mic you can actually hear the low level
    tape motor noise in the background. Ok for casual use, but you regret
    it when you need it for more demanding uses.

    Dave.
     
  9. Robert

    Robert Guest

    Canon's got a pretty nice miniature HDTV Camcorder for about $950 street
    price, the HV10.

    http://www.maximumpc.com/article/canon_hv10

    If you've got that kind of display may be worth it.

    Robert H.
     
  10. What about the ones that store to flash (SD or Sony Memory Stick)?
    (combined with a DVD writer and/or HDD).

    With 4G+ available on a tiny card, what is the advantage of slow noisy
    mechanical tape mechanisms? Cheaper media, I suppose.


    Best regards,
    Spehro Pefhany
     
  11. John Ferrell

    John Ferrell Guest

    A couple of years ago I bought a Canon ZR90. It is small, about $500,
    uses tapes OR SD cards. It has enough features to meet my needs and
    not so many as to keep me confused. The SD cards have come down in
    price enough to make me consider them instead of tape!

    I tend to take my cameras wherever I go and about half of them expire
    to accident, theft or loss.

    John Ferrell W8CCW
    "Life is easier if you learn to
    plow around the stumps"
     
  12. G

    G Guest

    I got an older Sony just before everybody downsized a few years ago. The downsized models didn't
    have full A/V inputs and outputs, so I'm still satisfied. The model I have also has great
    sound. It doesn't overload like many. I have recorded bands and jet dragsters. Well the
    jet does start to overload somewhat. One thing I hate about mine is when there
    is a memory stick in there, I sometimes put it into Stick opperation, then
    I soon got a memory full warning, thinking I was going to tape. Through the Sony, I converted
    a bunch of VHS video tapes to computer, video in/ firewire out, edited and made CD's.

    greg
     
  13. Meat Plow

    Meat Plow Guest

    Mine is 4 years old and works flawlessly. You're going to have isolated
    problems with any brand. As far as software goes, Pinnacle works fine with
    Sony stuff.

    My sony works in no light.
     
  14. Tam/WB2TT

    Tam/WB2TT Guest

    It works. Some people find it annoying as hell, though.

    Tam
     
  15. Tam/WB2TT

    Tam/WB2TT Guest

    Something to be said for the HV10 and HV20. They contain an A/D converter
    which allows you to connect any analog source to the camcorder, and download
    it to a PC via Firewire as digital. I know Jim's old camcorder does not
    work, but when I was in the same shape I borrowed an HI8 camcorder from a
    friend so I could make digital copies of my old HI8 tapes. I used a PCI
    analog capture card, which I would not have needed with one of these Canons.

    If you look at the HV10, look at the HV20 also. Both have Firewire. You
    don't want to have to use HDMI.

    Tam
     
  16. We use the Canon Elura 85 around the lab for making promo and product videos
    and as yet, there hasn't been a thing I've needed that it didn't have.

    Jim
     
  17. Jim Stewart

    Jim Stewart Guest

    I second the Canon brand. Seems to be more
    reliable and have better features than most
    other brands.
     
  18. What do you use for a video editing program?


    Best regards,
    Spehro Pefhany
     
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