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  1. Guest

    Every so often a daughter, spouse, or relative would ask, "When
    you die, do you want to be cremated or buried?"

    At first I'd say "I don't care." Or "I'll be dead, it won't
    matter to me." Or else I'd start a rant about death-phobic
    Americans, and funerals being for the living and not the dead,
    and the Mexicans know how it's done; going down to the sepulchre
    on Dias de los Muertos. Party with the deceased while being
    forced to contemplate your own mortality!

    But that didn't stop the question.

    Hmmmmmm. Burial or cremation. Only two choices, eh?

    Heh.

    At first I made a habit of requesting an "Open Casket Cremation."
    But then I stumbled across a Japanese article where such things
    are already done! (The furnace chamber has a wall of high-temp
    glass, so the family can retire to the viewing room to satisfy
    their curiousity.)

    Then I started coming up with more "creative" suggestions. How
    about freezing me in liquid nitrogen, sharpening my head to a point,
    then dropping me out of a plane over farmlands? A fertilizer
    spike!

    Let's see, what else...



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  2. I've willed my body to female CANNIBALS,
    preferably AMAZONS, (one last time in a
    chick :).
    My 18 year old wife will get to keep
    the best parts, to keep her from being
    lonely well into her old age.
    My meat will be well aged ~ 100 years,
    aka well hung.
     
  3. Abacus

    Abacus Guest

    You could always be plastinized, and gain a little bit or immortality
    by appearing on late-night channel 4 dissection programs.
     
  4. Then I started coming up with more "creative" suggestions. How
    about freezing me in liquid nitrogen, sharpening my head to a point,
    then dropping me out of a plane over farmlands? A fertilizer
    spike! <<

    You could omit the sharpening and dropping part.

    Look, if you had a hard drive crash full of irreplacable data, and the
    recovery company said there was no way they knew how to recover any of
    it in 2005, though some or even most of it might still be there in some
    form, what would you do? Cremate it? Bury it?

    Well, your brain is much the same kind of thing. Put it on the shelf
    and see what the future brings.

    SBH
     
  5. Get stuffed like Jeremy Bentham
    http://www.frankieroberto.com/weblog/189.xhtml

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    Dirk

    The Consensus:-
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  6. Guest

    More useful, for sure, but hardly novel.

    Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool,
    | chances are he is doing just the same"
     
  7. Don Taylor

    Don Taylor Guest

    Scientific American published an article about 100 years ago which
    described patents that had been obtained for electroplating the dead.
    I had photocopies of this buried here somewhere years ago.
    It included a drawing of an infant suspended in a tank with the
    electrodes attached. But I'm guessing they made this part up.

    I never was able to track down the actual patents for this. There
    was some indication they were european, perhaps dutch. But I had
    other hints that they were american patents. However patents at
    that time sometimes had a bit more "creativity" than they do now.

    Then you still have to decide, copper? nickel? silver? gold?
    And what pose? And where you are going to have them put you?
    The local metal shop is probably going to turn the job down.
    So which family member are you going to trust to do this?
     
  8. hanson

    hanson Guest

    [hanson]
    I wouldn't be surprised if that was a limited fad in certain social
    circles at a certain period in time. A version of preservation of
    state was popular till the early 1960's, where parents decided
    to have the first baby shoes of their offspring electroplated with
    silver of gold. They then hung them from the rearview mirror in
    their family station wagon...... ahahaha.... hey, different strokes
    for different folks..... ahahaha... ahahanson
     
  9. OsherD

    OsherD Guest

    From Osher Doctorow

    Don't die. Get a big family or your clan to pickle your brain in
    alcohol (Harris probably had this idea too) at approximately the moment
    of death and have them keep running with it like Raiders of the Lost
    Ark. It's true that from all that we can tell with instruments,
    there's an awful lot of destruction of brain cells and no sign of
    consciousness, but heck, there's even information coming out of black
    holes and according to some big theorists some of it encoded into
    spacetime geometry near black holes. Someday another Civilization
    smarter than ours (probably another species too, unless you have a
    hangup on apes) may decide to revive whatever's left or clone our
    brains from what's left. Of course, with all that alcohol, we might
    start resembling some of the Elitists on sci.physics.

    Osher Doctorow
     
  10. Perhaps its a matter for satisfaction or relief of fear, that the
    hated/feared family member might return for retribution.

    Why not do a web search on burial and cremation, and report back? I'll
    swag that Christians, expecting resurrection, the vain, desiring
    post-mortem worship, and those that cannot accept death will desire burial.

    Those with contempt for society would desire cremation, for the opposite
    reason; it puts them beyond any final acts of dishonor.

    If you really want to do something novel, donate your body to science
    and let some interns play pranks with your body parts.

    Scott

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    face of a child who is out to blow up the kitchen because he cannot
    steal his cookies and eat them, too. - Ayn Rand
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  11. That's getting popular! I've searched for the last several minutes for
    an article, posted on another news group last year, about people that
    have their family members stuffed. It costs a few thousand dollars. One
    woman had her child stuffed. A family had there grandma stuffed, but the
    foot started mildewing and the dog chewed it off and buried it or something.

    Scott

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    POLITICS, n.
    A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles.
    The conduct of public affairs for private advantage. - Ambrose Bierce

    There is no giant behind the devastation of the world—only a shriveled
    creature with the wizened
    face of a child who is out to blow up the kitchen because he cannot
    steal his cookies and eat them, too. - Ayn Rand
    **********************************
     
  12. You idiots that respond to this with bottom posting do understand that
    nobody reads your posts, don't you?

    Jim
     
  13. OsherD

    OsherD Guest

    From Osher Doctorow

    RST Engineering (jw) said:

    Could you run that by me again? I was born 66 years ago approximately,
    before they handed out computers. I guess that just makes me a visitor
    on the internet. :>)

    Osher
     
  14. Lambing Flat

    Lambing Flat Guest

    But Scott, what if Science doesn't want it..... ;-)


    --
    James McInerney

    My G gauge garden homage to the now long gone railways of Tasmania's
    west coast, the "Rurr Valley Railway"
    http://www.cia.com.au/bullack/rvrtitle.html

    also http://www.cia.com.au/bullack/ , where the steam era NSWGR
    secondary lines live on in HO at bucolic "Lambing Flat"

    and http://members.optusnet.com.au/lambingflat/ for the family stuff!
     
  15. Paul Burke

    Paul Burke Guest

    Perhaps prompted by the case last year in which a crematorium operator
    was found to be simply stacking the corpses up round the back? At least
    this way you can see that you are getting your moneysworth.

    Paul Burke
     
  16. The stuffed great leaders seem to require regular maintenance- Lenin,
    Mao, Bulgaria's Georgi Dimitrov (taken off display and cremated in
    1990), and Ho Chi Minh are the ones that come to mind. Hmm.. maybe a
    combination of animatronics, tanning and taxidermy could preserve some
    of your more annoying^H^H^H characteristic mannerisms and witticisms
    for posterity.

    There are companies that claim to take your remains and make precious
    stones or pottery from them (after cremation).


    Best regards,
    Spehro Pefhany
     
  17. Ade Vickers

    Ade Vickers Guest

    Spehro Pefhany said:
    I suggest reading Tom Sharpe's book "The Throwback", which actually
    describes (in exquisite detail) the process of combining animatronics &
    taxidermy on the human body.

    It's a very very funny book.
     
  18. AJW

    AJW Guest

    To paraphrase Bob Hope, who when asked where he wanted to be buried,
    said "surprise me."

    More seriously, I'd seen too many gravesites looking lonely and uncared
    for: my answer is an unmarked site, or none at all. Cremation is the
    ultimate sharing: assuming a well mixed atmosphere, everyone will
    breathe part of you with every breath.
     
  19. Cryonics - Alcor.

    --
    Dirk

    The Consensus:-
    The political party for the new millenium
    http://www.theconsensus.org
     
  20. Wikipedia: "Readers tend to find Sharpe's work either extremely
    offensive or outrageously funny." ;-)

    Okay, I'll pick it up.


    Best regards,
    Spehro Pefhany
     
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