British Line and Netural Conventions?

[Eeyore]

I have heard that earth(ground) pin up is a safety featyure, so that
something falling on a half-unplugged plug will not contact a hot
element

Modern UK power plugs have sleeved live and neutral pins anyway to prevent any
such possibility.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d3/Bs1363-non-earthed-plug.jpg

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Yes, in "Nanny States", but not in the real world.

It's called good design.

I appreciate that you idiot Yanks don't understand such things.


Graham

 

[Paul Burke]

Yes, in "Nanny States", but not in the real world. If you look at
where I'm posting from, you'll see that I'm not anywhere near Europe.

In REAL men's states you just get the bare wires and a couple of croc
clips. At 440kV.

 

[Eeyore]

In REAL men's states you just get the bare wires and a couple of croc
clips. At 440kV.

Can we get Mike Terrell to hold both of them ?

Graham

 

[John Larkin]

In REAL men's states you just get the bare wires and a couple of croc
clips. At 440kV.

Yeah, all the sockets in my house are dual Pomona banana jacks.

John

 

[John Larkin]

It's called good design.

I appreciate that you idiot Yanks don't understand such things.

Not many people die of electrocution, fewer still from 120, and I'd
guess approximately none from contacting partially-inserted plugs.
With effort, you might manage a tingle, but nothing dangerous and
certainly nothing you'd seize up on. Chewing on cords is more
dangerous, but that's mostly dogs and cats; I'd imagine that 240 is
many times more dangerous than 120 in that regard, and GFD might not
help there.

The greatest advancement in electrical safety lately has been the
fiberglass ladder.

But Edison, Westinghouse, Tesla, and Steinmetz pretty much invented
electric power here, so your "idiot Yanks" comment is just your usual
jingoist crap. I guess everybody has to contrive a way to feel good
about themselves.

John

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

In REAL men's states you just get the bare wires and a couple of croc
clips. At 440kV.

Like the factory built in Pakistan in the '70s to build the PRC77
NATO radio? They didn't use alligator clips, they just cut the plugs
off the power cords and stripped a few inches of wire so they could wrap
it around the bare wires nailed to the walls.

I'll bet you don't have a "Suicide cord". Mine has a piggyback power
connector so that you can plug something else into it.

Have you ever stood on the HV power transformer inside a TV
transmitter, to do maintenance while you're on the air?


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Not many people die of electrocution, fewer still from 120, and I'd
guess approximately none from contacting partially-inserted plugs.
With effort, you might manage a tingle, but nothing dangerous and
certainly nothing you'd seize up on. Chewing on cords is more
dangerous, but that's mostly dogs and cats; I'd imagine that 240 is
many times more dangerous than 120 in that regard, and GFD might not
help there.

The greatest advancement in electrical safety lately has been the
fiberglass ladder.

But Edison, Westinghouse, Tesla, and Steinmetz pretty much invented
electric power here, so your "idiot Yanks" comment is just your usual
jingoist crap. I guess everybody has to contrive a way to feel good
about themselves.

An impossible task for a flea bittern donkey.

--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Rich Grise]

In REAL men's states you just get the bare wires and a couple of croc
clips. At 440kV.

Yeah, all the sockets in my house are dual Pomona banana jacks.[/QUOTE]

Gee - with five-way binding posts, you wouldn't have to track down a dual
banana plug every time. ;-)

Do you just go by the color code, or are your dual banana plugs keyed?

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Rich Grise]

It's called good design.

I appreciate that you idiot Yanks don't understand such things.

No, we "idiot Yanks" know better than to stick our thumb between the
prongs of the plug we're plugging in.

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Adrian Tuddenham]

Yes, in "Nanny States", but not in the real world. If you look at
where I'm posting from, you'll see that I'm not anywhere near Europe.

Then you won't be using British mains plugs - which is what this thread
was discussing.

 

[John Larkin]

Then you won't be using British mains plugs - which is what this thread
was discussing.

We take liberties with the concept of "thread" around here. That's
because we electronics designers are so creative. Besides, we'd pretty
much said all there is to say about the UK plugs: big, klunky, safe,
boring.

John

 

[Eeyore]

your "idiot Yanks" comment is just your usual jingoist crap.

It was in repsonse to Terrell's daft 'nanny state' comment. He and Thompson are
by far the worst nationalists.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Like the factory built in Pakistan in the '70s to build the PRC77
NATO radio? They didn't use alligator clips, they just cut the plugs
off the power cords and stripped a few inches of wire so they could wrap
it around the bare wires nailed to the walls.

I'll bet you don't have a "Suicide cord". Mine has a piggyback power
connector so that you can plug something else into it.

Have you ever stood on the HV power transformer inside a TV
transmitter, to do maintenance while you're on the air?

Wow, you're such a MAN aren't you ? Or maybe you think the above makes you one ?

That's the kind of thing adolescents brag about.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

a flea bittern donkey.

Bitterns are a classification of wading birds in the heron family Ardeidae.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8e/LeastBittern23.jpg

 

[Eeyore]

No, we "idiot Yanks" know better than to stick our thumb between the
prongs of the plug we're plugging in.

It's surprisingly easy to grab the wrong bit when removing a plug. That's why
the UK plug also has a flared base to discourage such behaviour. The shrouded
pins camer alter.

As I said before, it's not about some crazy idea of 'manliness' supposing it's
smart to engage in risky behaviour, it's simply about good design.

Graham

 

[krw]

It's surprisingly easy to grab the wrong bit when removing a plug.

We believe you. Dumb donkeys do dumb things.

That's why the UK plug also has a flared base to discourage such behaviour.
The shrouded pins camer alter.

Because the UK is full of dumb donkeys? One of my SILs is a brit but
I don't think she's been that stupid.

As I said before, it's not about some crazy idea of 'manliness' supposing it's
smart to engage in risky behaviour, it's simply about good design.

Then don't plug your dick where it doesn't belong!

 

[krw]

We take liberties with the concept of "thread" around here. That's
because we electronics designers are so creative. Besides, we'd pretty
much said all there is to say about the UK plugs: big, klunky, safe,
boring.

You forgot expensive.

 

[Eeyore]

[email protected] says...

You forgot expensive.

Really ?

Graham

 

[John Larkin]

You forgot expensive.

Are they? It's shocking (not a pun) how cheap US electrical stuff is.
A switch or a double outlet costs maybe 79 cents at the local
builder's store, quantity 1, with choice of color.

John