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[Scott Stephens]

And which Hank would that be, and do we have to kiss Karl's ass as well?

As Hank is apparently the metaphor for God, perhaps we should choose the
atheist one, on account of Occam's Razor. Why bother with crude
symbols or concepts to wrap the real thing?

The paradox, the irony about it, is those that don't believe in "Hank"
are likely to play sick little zero-sum games that wreck themselves and
the town they live in in their quest for their path of least-action. A
path of least-action oblivious to the same notion in the minds of their
neighbors.

Hank is more than a metaphor for a make-believe deity-parent, its a
metaphor for life and the characteristic organizing pattern it realizes.
As long as atheists keep demanding "theres no objective basis for
morality" they can plunder and loot their neighbors and children, hoping
theist-suckers will clean up the mess.

They fail to realize theists make up excuses to get their way as readily
as atheists. It is the pattern, a kleptocrasy, which is inculcated by
the delusion.

We don't ask for perfect, just for not total moronic fuckup.

I don't expect perfect, just not a crook that lies about saying he's
acting on your behalf while robbing you with taxes which subsidies the
thieving cronies which have bribed him, and subsidizing propaganda sewers.


--
Scott

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[Dirk Bruere at Neopax]

The history of the human race is that of one armed nation taking what
they want from a weaker nation. "The strong do as they will, the weak
suffer what they must".

Our government makes cheap excuses about WMD and such, but its about oil
and military dominance of where oil comes from.

And the reason we peasants are not informed of this fact, is because the
class-structure is based on an aristocracy which keeps its peasants
enslaved with altruistic lies about "freedom", "morality", "human
rights", "God".

Right. Dummies and fools getting what they deserve.

--
Dirk

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[Dirk Bruere at Neopax]

As Hank is apparently the metaphor for God, perhaps we should choose the
atheist one, on account of Occam's Razor. Why bother with crude symbols
or concepts to wrap the real thing?

It's called 'Zen'

Anyway, my choice is Asatru.
"Asatru (Norse) - Hank started a motorcycle gang and left town, but he shows up
every now and then. If you want to join his gang and get the shit kicked out of
you by another gang, all you have to do is kick the shit out of people who
deserve it (or, alternatively, write really kickass rock and roll lyrics) until
somebody makes you leave town. If you join Hank's gang, there's this huge
nightclub outside of town, where we're having a blowout party. Anything goes
there, even bunless wieners and all sorts of condiments."

Asatru is actually a good deal of fun, and you can't say that about most religions.

--
Dirk

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[Rich Grise]

It's called 'Zen'

Anyway, my choice is Asatru.
"Asatru (Norse) - Hank started a motorcycle gang and left town, but he
shows up every now and then. If you want to join his gang and get the shit
kicked out of you by another gang, all you have to do is kick the shit out
of people who deserve it (or, alternatively, write really kickass rock and
roll lyrics) until somebody makes you leave town. If you join Hank's gang,
there's this huge nightclub outside of town, where we're having a blowout
party. Anything goes there, even bunless wieners and all sorts of
condiments."

Asatru is actually a good deal of fun, and you can't say that about most
religions.

Hank of the NeoDruids: A limp-dicked little satrap, who lords it over
Creation like the petty tyrant he is, but who owes his piddly-ass, sorry
existence itself to the True Desire of The Mother Of All Creation. He is
the light-bringer, after all.

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Dirk Bruere at Neopax]

Hank of the NeoDruids: A limp-dicked little satrap, who lords it over
Creation like the petty tyrant he is, but who owes his piddly-ass, sorry
existence itself to the True Desire of The Mother Of All Creation. He is
the light-bringer, after all.

That's YHVH

--
Dirk

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[Scott Stephens]

It's called 'Zen'

Looking up the Hank-ism for Zen, its not quite what I had in mind. I
like the part about one-lip kissing ass. As with most religions, it
presumes reason is useless.

I'm probably (much) closer to a Taoist ("All asses and all dollars are
all part of something important. We'd tell you more but you should
figure it out yourself").

Anyway, my choice is Asatru.
"Asatru (Norse) - Hank started a motorcycle gang... ....
Asatru is actually a good deal of fun, and you can't say that about most
religions.

Sounds like it, in the short-run anyways. And we're all dead in the long
run.

--
Scott

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[Rich Grise]

That's YHVH

Yup. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Dirk Bruere at Neopax]

Looking up the Hank-ism for Zen, its not quite what I had in mind. I
like the part about one-lip kissing ass. As with most religions, it
presumes reason is useless.

I'm probably (much) closer to a Taoist ("All asses and all dollars are
all part of something important. We'd tell you more but you should
figure it out yourself").



Sounds like it, in the short-run anyways. And we're all dead in the long
run.

So there is no long run for any of us.
We Asatruar are interested in living the short run well.
Havamal:

For these things give thanks at nightfall:
The day gone, a guttered torch,
A sword tested, the troth of a maid,
Ice crossed, ale drunk.

--
Dirk

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[Dirk Bruere at Neopax]

Yup. ;-)

Actually, not entirely.
The Light Bringer is Venus (Lucifer, Phosporus).
As JC said - "I am the root and the offspring of David, and THE BRIGHT AND
MORNING STAR"

The symbollism with respect to the Goddess archetype of the Middle East is
interesting.

JC was not working for YHVH IMO

--
Dirk

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[Scott Stephens]

So there is no long run for any of us.

That depends on how we define our "life". Is your legacy important to
you? I could argue those that consider their legacy important have a
certain evolutionary advantage. Those that do not value their legacy may
have a role to play in culling the heard.

I wouldn't want to be a cop, the social equivalent of a psychiatrist,
spending days wallowing in other peoples shit. On the best day, you only
get the thrill of hunting a beast down and hopefully killing it, rather
than turning it over to lawyers and politicians to use as an excuse for
taxing the innocent.

We Asatruar are interested in living the short run well.
Havamal:

For these things give thanks at nightfall:
The day gone, a guttered torch,
A sword tested, the troth of a maid,
Ice crossed, ale drunk.

The thrill of youth...

--
Scott

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[Dirk Bruere at Neopax]

That depends on how we define our "life". Is your legacy important to
you? I could argue those that consider their legacy important have a
certain evolutionary advantage. Those that do not value their legacy may
have a role to play in culling the heard.

Cattle die, kindred die,
Every man is mortal:
But the good name never dies
Of one who has done well

Cattle die, kindred die,
Every man is mortal:
But I know one thing that never dies,
The glory of the great dead

I wouldn't want to be a cop, the social equivalent of a psychiatrist,
spending days wallowing in other peoples shit. On the best day, you only
get the thrill of hunting a beast down and hopefully killing it, rather
than turning it over to lawyers and politicians to use as an excuse for
taxing the innocent.



The thrill of youth...

I'm only 51, so... yes.

--
Dirk

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[Scott Stephens]

Cattle die, kindred die,
Every man is mortal:
But the good name never dies
Of one who has done well

Cattle die, kindred die,
Every man is mortal:
But I know one thing that never dies,
The glory of the great dead

"One who has done well", the "glory of the great dead"? These imply
valuing qualities (honor, achievement, et.) over quantities (lifespan).
Destroying what is evil or creating good.

Its ironic, perverse, that I say that. I've wandered from interests in
technology into studying politics, history, psychology, philosophy and
religion. All of which are sciences of what we think, why we think and
how we think, then consequently what, why and how we act.

Hank in his diverse forms kicking my ass brought me down to this. I
guess you can run, but you can't hide from Hank in his diverse
malevolent forms. I'm becoming an Objectivist!

--
Scott

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[Dirk Bruere at Neopax]

"One who has done well", the "glory of the great dead"? These imply
valuing qualities (honor, achievement, et.) over quantities (lifespan).
Destroying what is evil or creating good.

True.
No society can survive that applauds betrayal, greed, selfishness, lies and
cowardice.

Its ironic, perverse, that I say that. I've wandered from interests in
technology into studying politics, history, psychology, philosophy and
religion. All of which are sciences of what we think, why we think and
how we think, then consequently what, why and how we act.

Hank in his diverse forms kicking my ass brought me down to this. I
guess you can run, but you can't hide from Hank in his diverse
malevolent forms. I'm becoming an Objectivist!

Maybe you're just realising, as I did rather late in life, that people run this
planet. And politicians run people (by various methods).

--
Dirk

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