Maker Pro
Maker Pro

big blackout

G

Gareth

Jan 1, 1970
0
John said:

Interesting, but when you look at electricity consumption your average
Brit. actually uses less energy than you average German.

Perhaps British people are just more honest when filling in surveys?

Country kWh per person per year

Iceland ISL 26,947.4
Norway NOR 25,594.9
Sweden SWE 16,021.0
Finland FIN 15,686.8
Luxembourg LUX 15,192.3
Belgium BEL 8,271.7
Switzerland CHE 8,025.6
Austria AUT 7,418.9
France FRA 7,401.4
Germany DEU 6,852.4
Netherlands NLD 6,658.9
Denmark DNK 6,492.3
United Kingdom GBR 6,171.3

data from:

http://earthtrends.wri.org/searchab...61,162,166,173,174,187,189,202,203,218&ccID=2


--
 
M

Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
0
martin said:
the rumour mill has that Genome powered up a protoype for the first
time, just before the blackout

martin


We know that it wasn't his water heater.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
N

Nico Coesel

Jan 1, 1970
0
Michael A. Terrell said:
Now, where are those Europeans who were bragging this couldn't happen
to them?

Well, the good old UPS stayed quiet here and that wasn't because the
batteries where dead... But you do make a point: the big power
distribution networks need improved management and more redundancy.
 
M

martin griffith

Jan 1, 1970
0
Now, where are those Europeans who were bragging this couldn't happen
to them?

HAHA, if the yanks had this sort of powercut, it would take 3+ days to
sort out, in the EU it was just for a few hours


martin
 
M

Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
0
martin said:
HAHA, if the yanks had this sort of powercut, it would take 3+ days to
sort out, in the EU it was just for a few hours

martin


You seem to be having more massive failures than the US, though.

After that line that runs through Canada, and back to the US failed a
few years ago, some people on this newsgroup were bragging that you
would NEVER have these kinds of failures in any European country.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
M

martin griffith

Jan 1, 1970
0
You seem to be having more massive failures than the US, though.

After that line that runs through Canada, and back to the US failed a
few years ago, some people on this newsgroup were bragging that you
would NEVER have these kinds of failures in any European country.

duh, blame the Canucks.......

Anyway it's the magnitude of the failure that counts, this was just a
lack of news day, 2 or 3 hours.at max
In the US it would have been 3 days blackout while you payed the
lawyers (with brown paper envelopes) to blame Clinton for the 1743 flu
epidemic in Malaysia


martin
 
E

Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
0
Gareth said:
Interesting, but when you look at electricity consumption your average
Brit. actually uses less energy than you average German.

Perhaps British people are just more honest when filling in surveys?

Country kWh per person per year

Iceland ISL 26,947.4
Norway NOR 25,594.9
Sweden SWE 16,021.0
Finland FIN 15,686.8
Luxembourg LUX 15,192.3
Belgium BEL 8,271.7
Switzerland CHE 8,025.6
Austria AUT 7,418.9
France FRA 7,401.4
Germany DEU 6,852.4
Netherlands NLD 6,658.9
Denmark DNK 6,492.3
United Kingdom GBR 6,171.3

I'd be shocked if I used that much !

Graham
 
E

Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
0
Michael A. Terrell said:
Now, where are those Europeans who were bragging this couldn't happen
to them?

It certainly didn't happen in the UK.

Graham
 
E

Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
0
martin said:
HAHA, if the yanks had this sort of powercut, it would take 3+ days to
sort out, in the EU it was just for a few hours

How long was New York out of action ?

Graham
 
M

Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
0
martin said:
duh, blame the Canucks.......

Anyway it's the magnitude of the failure that counts, this was just a
lack of news day, 2 or 3 hours.at max
In the US it would have been 3 days blackout while you payed the
lawyers (with brown paper envelopes) to blame Clinton for the 1743 flu
epidemic in Malaysia


Where did I blame Canada? I said it was related to that part of the
grid that had a loop that ran THROUGH Canada. Areas were quickly
restored, but it took a while to tie all segments back to the regional
grid.

The failure was traced to Ohio, but it was about two decades after I
moved away. ;-)


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
K

Ken Smith

Jan 1, 1970
0
Michael A. Terrell said:
After that line that runs through Canada, and back to the US failed a
few years ago, some people on this newsgroup were bragging that you
would NEVER have these kinds of failures in any European country.

but ... but ... none of the power for europe goes through Canada so they
couldn't, could they?
 
M

Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
0
Ken said:
but ... but ... none of the power for europe goes through Canada so they
couldn't, could they?


That has nothing to do with their comments about our "Out of date and
poorly maintained grids", does it?


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
E

Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
0
Michael A. Terrell said:
That has nothing to do with their comments about our "Out of date and
poorly maintained grids", does it?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6117880.stm

" E.ON said the power failures may have been linked to a line across a river
being switched off to allow a ship to pass through safely, Reuters reported.

The Italian regions of Piedmont, Liguria and Puglia lost energy overnight
between 2100 and 2200 GMT "

Good Lord. No electricity for a whole HOUR !

Graham
 
P

Paul Hovnanian P.E.

Jan 1, 1970
0
martin said:
the rumour mill has that Genome powered up a protoype for the first
time, just before the blackout

Compressor for the inflatable doll?
 
Top