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  1. Matt

    Matt Guest

  2. Ian Stirling

    Ian Stirling Guest

    No, it's a scam intended to get a few hundred orders, and then the
    originator to leave with the money.
    Even if the chips need no energy, the transmitter/camera/screen
    still do.
    There are no new semiconductor processes being designed for the asian
    space program (not to mention that there is no such thing (there
    are of course national space programs)).
    Well, maybe rad-hard chips in a fab somewhere, but they are NOT
    anything special, you always pay for rad-hardness in expense and
    power use.
  3. Ian Stirling

    Ian Stirling Guest

    To add to this, the couple of technical articles linked have nothing
    to do with new processor chips.
    Even if you have lower powered memory chips (that one link implied
    may be possible), you still need processors, which this will not help
    And the other link is just irrelevant.
  4. Kryten

    Kryten Guest

    Well, the 'crystalline' material image looked suspiciously like salt or
    sugar grains.

    Pretty lame scam effort.
  5. John Larkin

    John Larkin Guest

  6. N. Thornton

    N. Thornton Guest

    No. To communicate you have to transmit energy. To see a screen you
    have to transmit light. Cameras need energy to amplify their signals.
    Processors process what... electron currents, ie power.

    Notice also that the stated processor specs are wildly in excess of
    whats needed to run a mobile phone, and the picture looks like its
    been patched together on a pc, rather than a real item photographed.

  7. sPoNiX

    sPoNiX Guest

    Seeing as your name is 'Matt' and the domain is registered to: 'Matt
    Cartwright' (of Siren Publishing in Wolverhampton) I'd say it's fake
    and you're trying to pull a fast one, matey!

  8. Site comes back to...


    saturn centre
    wolverhampton, west midlands WV4 6JX


    Administrative Contact:
    cartwright, matt
    saturn centre
    wolverhampton, west midlands WV4 6JX
    01902 496007
    Technical Contact:
    cartwright, matt
    saturn centre
    wolverhampton, west midlands WV4 6JX
    01902 496007

    There are a few references on the web on these guys. Small compnay
    started by two brothers providing custom search engine programming.
  9. Joel Kolstad

    Joel Kolstad Guest

    The phrase, "latest spin-off from the space program" is also always a good
    warning bell. :)

    I wonder what the purpose of the web site is, though? It says that phones
    will be shipping on December 16th, which obviously isn't going to happen.
    Will the site just disappear then? Hmm...
  10. N. Thornton

    N. Thornton Guest

    The odds of that are 1 over the total number of Matts. It would be
    remarkably dumb posting that ad on an electronic engineering forum....
    but that hasnt always stopped them.

  11. Terry Given

    Terry Given Guest

    PT Barnum made a serious error when he said "there's a sucker born every
    minute" in that he grossly underestimated the true scale of the issue.
    There are thousands of suckers born every minute, although nowadays we
    call them "consumers"

    It never ceases to amaze me the people who fall for the stupid nigerian
    scam (and its variants). In the last couple of years in NZ, half a dozen
    or so groups have fallen "victim" to this fraud. Surprisingly (or
    perhaps unsurprisingly) the poeple losing millions of dollars (ha!
    dickheads) have been lawyers, bankers and economists - including the
    (former) chief economist of the ASB bank, who lost several million
    dollars of his and his friends money. ROTFLMAO


    PS wanna buy a bridge?
  12. sPoNiX

    sPoNiX Guest

    Well, an almost identical post has appeared in from
    someone called "Matt" and using the email address ""..

    Do a whois on "" and you'll see it's registered at the same
    address as ""

    Go to and click "view source"....

    The result? "Author...Matt Cartwright"

  13. Yes, the old Nigerian 419 fee in advance scam. Started in the early
    90's. Now it has "evolved" into a different format. It is no longer
    some top official with the Nigerian Oil Ministry looking to hide 33
    million dollars in a foreign bank. Now it comes in the form of an RFQ
    asking for pricing of all your products. The new lure is placing a
    huge order and then somewhere in the transaction they will need an
    advanced payment usually $10,000.00.

    I played along with one of these ten years ago just to see how far I
    could string out the guy on the other end of the deal. It was quite an
    interesting experience. Once the guy asked for the advanced payment of
    $10,000.00 I told him that all I had was $5,000.00. He went ballistic
    and said no deal. Then two weeks later I get another call from some
    other guy in Lagos saying he could do it for $5,000.00. I then came
    back with "Gee all I have now is $2,000.00" He went away pissed off.
    Another two or three weeks went by and yet another guy from Lagos
    calls and says he could do it for $2,000.00. They had a network of
    people that they likely sold their deals to for less and less as the
    deal aged kind of like selling debts here in the U.S.

    I milked it until they stopped calling. Nothing more fun than scamming
    a scammer.
  14. Kryten

    Kryten Guest

    Well, I understand that avariciously stupid people deserve a good lesson,
    but if they go to jail we have to pay to keep them there.
    If they commit suicide they leave behind upset families.

    Most of all I hate the fact that a bunch of thieving vermin are making
    millions while I'm trying to earn an honest crust.

    They're probably laughing loudest at you and I.

    I think the west should deduct the amount scammed from the amount we give
    them in aid.

    Only then are their governments going to make a crackdown,
    when it comes out of their pockets.
  15. SioL

    SioL Guest

    It originated much sooner, in the early 1980. Google on the subject.,1759,1020614,00.asp
    This particular con actually did begin in Nigeria and predates the Web. In the
    original scam, paper letters were sent out by hand, including elaborate packages
    of documents. Care went into finding the right suckers. With spam broadcast
    mailing, such research is no longer necessary. I predict quality con jobs are
    going to be a thing of the past, and Darwinism will take over. The dumbest get
    ripped off.

  16. SioL

    SioL Guest

    Now this gets interesting:,1284,57760,00.html
    Fifty-year-old Michael Lekara Wayid, Nigeria's consul in the Czech Republic, was
    shot dead by an unidentified 72-year-old Czech at the Nigerian Embassy in Prague
    on Wednesday
    According to police reports, the suspect was a victim of the 419 scam, a
    thriving industry that employs thousands of people around the world. The
    scammers successfully manage to extort money from thousands of victims by
    promising them compensation for assistance in moving funds from foreign
    countries to banks in the United States.

    This makes for more interesting read, a story from someone who used to be
    involved in this scam:,1284,53818,00.html
    .....Taiwo was also quick to insist that he did nothing more than write letters
    intended to lure victims into the scam. He said the con game is profitable
    enough to "nicely support" several dozen of his family members.

    "We have the letter writers and the people who create the official
    documentation, the people who talk to our clients on the phone, the people who
    arrange travel and meetings and tours of government offices in Africa, Canada,
    Japan and the United States ... no, it's not a small business," Taiwo said.
    "I was told to write like a classic novelist would," Taiwo explained. "Very old
    world, very thick sentences, you know?"

    Once in Nigeria, clients will be treated to what Taiwo's family calls the "dirty
    money mago-mago" (deal). The prospect will be shown a suitcase stuffed full of
    blackened pieces of paper and told it is money disguised so it can be smuggled
    into or out of the country.

    "So the person thinks right away they are playing with him," Taiwo said. "He
    gets all tense. But then they ask him to select any bills at random from that
    money. And they take and rub the black off -- yes, it is all real money covered
    with Vaseline and something else ... I think they use iodine, too. So he
    relaxes, and then they ask for many thousands to pay for all the money to be

    Taiwo's uncle claimed that about one-third of the clients do pay to have the
    money laundered. Others balk, at which point they will be charged for other

    "We make sure the wad came into the country illegal (without proper
    documentation), so they have to pay big to leave with no trouble."
  17. Terry Given

    Terry Given Guest

    In 1993 my R&D manager got one of these letters, from nigeria. The
    letter got framed, and put on the wall :)

  18. Aid should *never* be given to governments.


    The Consensus:-
    The political party for the new millenium
  19. I got one way back. Printed with a manual typewriter on something
    resembling toilet paper. Very authentic- just like they use in the
    Nigerian Central bank.

    Best regards,
    Spehro Pefhany
  20. Terry Given

    Terry Given Guest

    Yep, thats what Murrays letter looked like. The paper was wierdly

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