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  1. larry

    larry Guest

    greetings

    Is there a website that can teach a fairly new, but not beginner, person
    about the stamp microcontroller. I have been around electronics since the
    early 60's, so I am familiar with building, components ets.

    I am looking for a webpage that can teach my the basics of the stamp and
    teach me the support hardware. Also how to load programs, develope
    programs, etc.

    Larry
     
  2. BASIC Stamps are very expensive. PICs are not. Perhaps you should consider
    just using a PIC.

    --Russell
     
  3. CFoley1064

    CFoley1064 Guest

    Is there a website that can teach a fairly new, but not beginner, person

    Good morning, Larry. The first place you might want to go is the
    manufacturer's web site. Try

    http://www.parallax.com/

    On the sidebar menu, go to Resources -> Getting Started. There's also plenty
    in Resources -> Downloads to keep you busy for a while.

    Good luck.
    Chris
     
  4. Byron A Jeff

    Byron A Jeff Guest

    -
    -> greetings
    ->
    -> Is there a website that can teach a fairly new, but not beginner, person
    -> about the stamp microcontroller. I have been around electronics since the
    -> early 60's, so I am familiar with building, components ets.
    ->
    -> I am looking for a webpage that can teach my the basics of the stamp and
    -> teach me the support hardware. Also how to load programs, develope
    -> programs, etc.
    ->
    -BASIC Stamps are very expensive. PICs are not. Perhaps you should consider
    -just using a PIC.

    I'd like to expand on this. The Stamp presents quite a few features:

    1) High Level Language support.
    2) No separate programmer.
    3) Lots of examples.
    4) Lots of people using it.

    So it's pretty easy to get started. However the downside occurs with
    continuing use:

    1) Each project requires a new stamp. It does get expensive.
    2) It's slow. Very slow. Extremely slow. Slow enough to eventually get into
    your way on a project.
    3) The Basic HLL has limitations.
    4) You're limited to the hardware that Parallax happens to package.

    So a bare PIC can offer you speed and flexibility while limiting your overall
    cost. However there is more initial setup in terms of a programmer and
    figuring out how to program it.

    Be sure to take a read of Wouter von Ooijen's getting started page. Also
    his Wisp628 programmer is an excellent tool, in addition to the Jal
    programming language. http://www.voti.nl

    Also you can take a look at my PIC resources: http://www.finitesite.com/d3jsys

    BAJ
    -
    ---Russell
    -
    -> Larry
    -
     
  5. Chaos Master

    Chaos Master Guest

    larry() said those words of arcane wisdom from the elves:
    Try the manufacturer : www.parallax.com . I'd suggest you to move to a "real"
    microcontroller such as a PIC.
     
  6. hamilton

    hamilton Guest

    Huugh, The stamp is a PIC. !!!!
     
  7. It's a PIC with a leg and an arm cut of, but given a second language...

    Jan-Erik.
     
  8. dave

    dave Guest

    It's a PIC with a leg and an arm cut of, but given a second
    language...which means you can be up and running in about 5 mins as
    opposed to 5 hours.....
     
  9. In another life I'm a semi-professional pianist. This argument reminds me
    of the constant bickering in rec.music.makers.piano regarding whether
    digital pianos are better than acoustic. It also reminds me of the
    bickering between those who prefer classical music and those who like more
    modern.

    It also reminds me of those who argue about linux and windows. Or C and
    perl.

    Or.. Or...

    Basic stamps have their purpose. They're easy to set up and program, which
    makes them great for prototyping. They're very expensive, which makes them
    stink for production runs. They're very slow, which makes them stink for
    real-time applications.

    If you're setting up a prototype with an eye for mass production, using a
    basic stamp is going to make you have to go back and rework it anyway, may
    as well do it right the first time (unless you can afford to redo it from
    scratch and/or speed of prototyping is paramount). If you're just using it
    to experiment and have the extra cash to throw parallax's way, go for it.
    If your app is speed sensitive, don't waste the money.

    Use the right tool for the job. A stamp very well might be it. And it
    might not. Just think about it carefully.

    HTH.

    --Russell
     
  10. Louis Bybee

    Louis Bybee Guest

    So be constructive, and suggest a viable option. :-]

    Thank you.

    Louis--
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    Remove the two fish in address to respond
     
  11. I don't understand, I thought I did in another post. Or perhaps you were
    making a joke?
    You're welcome.

    --Russell
     
  12. hamilton

    hamilton Guest

    Like all too many posts here, the amount of information given in NOT
    enough to give any type of option ( or opinion ).

    Please give more information about your goals. Please.
     
  13. Louis Bybee

    Louis Bybee Guest

    My provider rolls the messages off quickly so I wasn't able to view much of
    the thread. The message with your suggestion (which I missed) wasn't
    available to me.

    I'll see if it's available on google.

    Thank you.

    Louis--
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    Remove the two fish in address to respond
     
  14. Louis Bybee

    Louis Bybee Guest

    My provider rolls messages off so quickly, thus I wasn't able to view much
    of the thread. Another fellow replied that he had posted an option which I
    missed. I'll try and see if I can follow the thread further back on google.

    This is an area that I have little experience with, and thus my knowledge
    base is such that I don't really have clearly defined goals yet. I would
    like to pursue this technology further on a informational gathering basis,
    and value the opinion of those that have tread before me. It would seem wise
    to glean from the suggestions of those with "battle scars" a suffer as few
    as possible myself.

    Thank you.

    Louis
     
  15. hamilton

    hamilton Guest

    Hmmm,

    OK, I think you can do this with a cast iron gear assembly.

    But, you would need a smelter to get the cast iron.

    I am sure you can find one on Ebay.

    hamilton
     
  16. Louis Bybee

    Louis Bybee Guest

    Ok, I've acquired the smelter, but it came without operating instructions!
    Could you please forward same ASAP!

    Thank you.

    Louis--
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    Remove the two fish in address to respond
     
  17. *what* area ?
    *You* don't have your goals defined, and you ask *us* to tell
    you how to use to reach them.

    :) :)

    Jan-Erik.
     
  18. hamilton

    hamilton Guest

    Boy, That was quick,

    Good for you, this means you are truelly interested in getting this
    project done. Now, is the unit gas of elecric?
     
  19. Louis Bybee

    Louis Bybee Guest

    I apologize for a post that was vague at best. I have no project, or task
    specific goal in mind. The general subject of stamp microcontrollers has
    interested me for some time, and running across this thread motivated me to
    follow through on that interest.

    Someone made reference to a company that provided parts, and projects, and
    another person intimated that there was a better source, or type of
    microcontroller available. That was the information I was seeking. I wasn't
    requesting anyone to implement a project for me, rather sources of
    information that I could use to avoid mistakes others had made in the
    familiarization process, and other tips to make the learning process more
    fruitful.

    Goggleing the subject has reduced my need for that information, but I do
    appreciate your time, and efforts.

    Thank you.

    Louis--
    *********************************************
    Remove the two fish in address to respond
     
  20. Louis Bybee

    Louis Bybee Guest

    I'm not quite sure. The people that delivered the smelter were in a big
    hurry to leave, and it was dark at the time so I could'nt ask too many
    relevant questions.

    On one end there is an opening marked "Inpoot" in rather unprofessional
    lettering with a black "magic marker". The other end has a hole with the
    legend "Yep, it comes out here!" also with the same type of lettering. In
    the middle there is a smaller box with instructions to connect to the "Flux
    Generator". Now I'm not normally the suspicious type, but if it had been
    daylight I might have questioned whether I received appropriate value for
    the money I paid after observing the less than confidence inspiring
    lettering, poor spelling, lack of instructions, and the fact that this
    smelter was constructed from black painted cardboard joined with duct tape.

    Please forward suitable instructions ASAP. I'm sure my suspicions will turn
    out to be unfounded as they seemed like nice, and sincere people. Also they
    repeatedly assured me that I would have it up, and running in no time at
    all! That's funny? I just tried calling the phone number they gave me, and
    it appears to be assigned to a dry cleaners? :-]

    Thank you.

    Louis
     
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