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amdx

Jan 1, 1970
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prostate exams will be available when the government disallows your exam!

Thank god I had cancer last year!

Heard on the Dennis Miller show.
Mike
 
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amdx

Jan 1, 1970
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Jim Thompson said:
I had a spike in my PSA test last year, so had the multi-round
follow-up. Turned out to be a false positive.

The funny part though was the manual exam... sweet young oriental babe
says, "Drop your pants."

Man are you lucky, My doc is 6'3" with matching fingers, but he seems
reluctant to.....
so I got a free exam through a hospital seminar at a urology clinic, damn
doc walked in
and was just as big as my doc. All is well.
 
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PeterD

Jan 1, 1970
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...
They'll let us old folks die off.

I'm going to scurry around and get everything fixed before this bill
kicks in.

Then outlive them :)

...Jim Thompson

There's a problem with that! They (the proletariat) have made sure
they are exempt from their own rules and systems, and have created a
premium system just for them--just so guys like you and I don't
actually succeed with the 'outlive' plan.
 
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Nico Coesel

Jan 1, 1970
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Jim Thompson said:
I had a spike in my PSA test last year, so had the multi-round
follow-up. Turned out to be a false positive.

The funny part though was the manual exam... sweet young oriental babe
says, "Drop your pants."

I drop my pants and bend over. She says, "No. Let's do the front
first."

Panic! Panic! Shrivel :-(

But we _are_ going to be like the UK. Committee approval _will_ be
required for "procedures".

Thats just rubbish told by people that will have to charge fair prices
instead of filling their pockets.
They'll let us old folks die off.

Nonsense. Affordable healthcare makes sure people can get old in the
first place.

I really don't understand why so many people in the US like to get
screwed by the most expensive healthcare system in the world.
 
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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

Jan 1, 1970
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I had a spike in my PSA test last year, so had the multi-round
follow-up. Turned out to be a false positive.

The funny part though was the manual exam... sweet young oriental babe
says, "Drop your pants."

I drop my pants and bend over. She says, "No. Let's do the front
first."

Panic! Panic! Shrivel :-(

But we _are_ going to be like the UK. Committee approval _will_ be
required for "procedures".

They'll let us old folks die off.

I'm going to scurry around and get everything fixed before this bill
kicks in.

Then outlive them :)

...Jim Thompson

Yeah... it's so bad over here in the UK that we are only 22nd on the
list of life expectancy. OTOH, the USA is at number 38. despite spending
vastly more than us on medical stuff.

Ever wondered whether you might be doing something wrong, compared with
the UK?

Canada is at 11. France at 10
 
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Tim Williams

Jan 1, 1970
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John Larkin said:
The US medical establishment also agressively fights for the lives of
babies born prematurely or with birth defects, and counts those as
deaths if they don't survive. It's very expensive, often hundreds of
thousands of dollars, to save a premature child. And if they do die,
we count them against life expectancy statistics. Many other countries
make no such effort and don't count these as deaths.

Incidentially, do you have any statistics supporting this oft-cited
statistic? It sounds believable but I wonder how much of an impact it
actually is.

Tim
 
Incidentially, do you have any statistics supporting this oft-cited
statistic? It sounds believable but I wonder how much of an impact it
actually is.

A zero, or a hundred thousand (of them), makes a big dent in the averages.
 
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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

Jan 1, 1970
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A big part of the difference is demographics. We have a lot of
immigrants who don't get good medical care. Certain populations,
Africans and Pacific islanders and native Americans for instance, seem
poorly adapted to European diets (lots of meat, wheat, sugar, dairy
products) and get diabetes, heart disease, cancer, high blood
pressure, and such. All that fried food and pizza and ice cream and
bread sure taste good.

Euro-type Americans who have regular access to medical care do quite
well. And Americans who get heart attacks, cancer, acute stuff like
that, do very well by world standards.

The US medical establishment also agressively fights for the lives of
babies born prematurely or with birth defects, and counts those as
deaths if they don't survive. It's very expensive, often hundreds of
thousands of dollars, to save a premature child. And if they do die,
we count them against life expectancy statistics. Many other countries
make no such effort and don't count these as deaths.

So we would expect infant mortality to be considerably better than (say)
the UK?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate

USA is at number 33
UK is at number 22

Explanation?
[And BTW, the number of immigrants into the UK as a % of population is
probably similar to that of the USA]

Of course, if we are simply comparing people who get the best treatment
money can buy, I doubt there will be a lot of difference across the world.
 
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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

Jan 1, 1970
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Most of our mortality is fat-related, and we've got more fat people.
It has nothing to do with the quality or availability of medical care.

But, even with that, if you eliminate murders (gangs, killing one
another, mostly) and car accidents (Americans can afford more cars,
and to drive them more), Americans outlive Europeans.

Life expectancy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

USA number 38
UK number 22

Nope - still doesn't add up.
Most (West) Europeans live longer.
 
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JosephKK

Jan 1, 1970
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Incidentially, do you have any statistics supporting this oft-cited
statistic? It sounds believable but I wonder how much of an impact it
actually is.

Tim

I think i saw something on it at the CDC site.
 
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