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Keithr

Jan 1, 1970
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Arny said:
Since the U.S. hardly played in WW1, that must be some Brit that you are
talking about...

I am fully aware that they only arrived near the end Arnie, but that
doesn't stop many of your countrymen from claiming full credit for the
outcome.

PS. I don't blame the US for not wanting to get involved in a stupid
quarrel between the various european royal families. Most of their
subjects would rather not have been involved either, especially the ones
who got killed for no reason at all.
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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Arny said:
Since the U.S. hardly played in WW1..................

Well I can't fault your knowledge of history there. However for the Germans,
they must have realised the game was up then.

Graham
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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Arny said:
Truth is, most modern americans hardly remember WW1

You obviously don't have the History Channel over there then !

Graham
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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Arny said:
Europe is still the biggest collection of illogical minds who should know
better, around. The fact that each European country still thinks it is a
soveriegn state, until lately had its own currency, until lately guarded its
borders and treated the people next door like foreigners, and still can't
figure out a common language to speak. This is a real hoot except that it
is so sad. Heck, even the Canadians are language-stoopid.

Fact is in the US we have counties and cities that are larger, richer, more
populous, more diverse, more cosmopolitan than some European countries. The
only thing that keeps you apart is your egos.

For my whole life, my parents life, and my grandparents lives we've been
able to go any place among the 50 states whenever we wanted to, no customs,
no formal border crossing, talk the same language, spend the same money, and
if we met nominal residency requirements, vote in the local elections.

Europe was fighting wars among itself and killing millions of each other, on
several occasions since, when my grand parents came to the US and enjoyed
the same liberties I do, in the 1800s.

So you europeans smartened up a little just lately. You still have a long
way to go before you'll be where the US was two (2) centuries back in the
1800s.

Pick at nits if you will. My ankles hardly notice it.

Speaks for itself.

Graham
 
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Keithr

Jan 1, 1970
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Arny said:
So what? Just because a few americans don't have their heads on straight,
does that make it fair to characterize us all that way?

Truth is, most modern americans hardly remember WW1, their recollections of
WW2 are second hand at best, and even the Vietnam war is fading from the
collective memory pretty fast.


Europe is still the biggest collection of illogical minds who should know
better, around. The fact that each European country still thinks it is a
soveriegn state, until lately had its own currency, until lately guarded its
borders and treated the people next door like foreigners, and still can't
figure out a common language to speak. This is a real hoot except that it
is so sad. Heck, even the Canadians are language-stoopid.

Not everybody wants what you want Arnie, what is so difficult about
that. You, and a lot of your countrymen seem to have great problems
understanding it.
Fact is in the US we have counties and cities that are larger, richer, more
populous, more diverse, more cosmopolitan than some European countries. The
only thing that keeps you apart is your egos.

Ah, if only the whole world were like America, God would be in his
heaven and all would be right with the world. the truth is that the
French like being French, the Germans like being German and so on. Very
few want to be American. American cities may be more diverse that a lot
of European ones (but not all) they certainly are not more cosmopolitan,
and America as a whole certainly is not more diverse or cosmopolitan
than Europe, or for that matter Australia. New York is certainly richer
and more populous than Australia for instance, but having experienced
both, I know which I'd rather live in.
For my whole life, my parents life, and my grandparents lives we've been
able to go any place among the 50 states whenever we wanted to, no customs,
no formal border crossing, talk the same language, spend the same money, and
if we met nominal residency requirements, vote in the local elections.

Same with any country, the US just happens to be bigger than most. I can
travel anywhere in Australia, settle down and vote anywhere. As a bonus,
the Australain government does not forbid me to travel anywhere, and I
can buy stuff from any country at all.
Europe was fighting wars among itself and killing millions of each other, on
several occasions since, when my grand parents came to the US and enjoyed
the same liberties I do, in the 1800s.

I seem to remember that during the 1800s there was a somewhat vicious
war going on within the US.
So you europeans smartened up a little just lately. You still have a long
way to go before you'll be where the US was two (2) centuries back in the
1800s.
ROFL

Pick at nits if you will. My ankles hardly notice it.


One of the skills in life is to be able to tell what are nits and what
are not, you obviously have failed.
 
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bassett

Jan 1, 1970
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The european model is also a dam sight older, has considerably more
history, and tradition then the US,
and has got this by the old way of trial and error. Unlike the US who has
no history, and can and has benefited
by other countries mistakes. But like all anericans, you see things through
rose coloured glasses. And simply can't except that others opinions might
just be correct.

Fact is there are two classes in the US, the very rish and the dirt poor,
And while some of there cities might be bigger by vertue of population,
It's still a relatively new country compared to Europe. The US would have
to be the most un-cosmopolitan of any western country. populated by Spanish
speaking, and English speaking peoples who also diversify with the negro
slave cultures.
Where as the european countries are far more cosmopolitan due to the
vast mix of tounges and cultures.
Even Australa is more cosmopolitan then the US, due to it's immigration
policies, which like Canada, has a mix of many european ethnic diversities

Your so-called states are also very small in size compaired to some places.
We in Australia have cattle stations far bigger then Texas, and run by a
couple of people, Victiria River Downs being a prime example, these
proparties are measured in square miles
Actualy most american states could well be run by a local council, After
all consider the Greater London Council, popluation close to 25 million.
As for your so-called freedoms with regard to the seperation of states,
Each of your states has a set of statues, differant to it's neighbours, so
there is a complete jumble. There is no freedom between states, and
extrodision is required to return someone accross a stae border. This is
why you have an FBI service, together with homeland security, Plus the
state police, State troopers, federial marshal service, the list goes on
and on.

Had the US had been around as long as the European countries , there would
have been as many wars between states.
The big problem is most Americans don't have the slightest consept of what
other countries enjoy, there total brainwashed into thinking that "What's
American, must be bigger and better" where in fact the reverse is true.
I've lived in the US, and Canada, and Alaskia, when I was a lot younger, and
let me tell you I'm far better of where I am now in OZ. The division in
your country between rich and poor is poles apart, just consider the actions
of YOUR government with "Karenna" And the long delays , before your
governments decided to act. Years later people are still waiting for help,
and are living on what's left of the streets, The Californian earthquakes
are the same. The rich and influential get all the help they ask for, and
the common person who may well be Black and on welfare payments get nothing.
Poverty is rife in the US, may-be not for the well paid, but the life of the
Mexician day labourer, or negro farm worker. But all this is covered up by
the Americam Dream of "All is well with the world, Due to American money
and might.
Just consider the numbers of negro servicemen that died [cannon fodder] in
Vietnam and Iraq, complaired to there white brothers. America IS a very
racist country, not that your about to admit it. And as for your next
Black President, that's not about to be allowed to happen. Dispite what
the man on the street might like to think.
Just remember Kennedy for evidence of that. But you won't of cause. Your
sort only remember what you want to remember, the rest gets forgotten and
swept under the carpit for another day.


bassett
 
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Iain Churches

Jan 1, 1970
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Eeyore said:
You obviously don't have the History Channel over there then !

Graham


History is tightly bound to culture. If what
Arny states above is true, this would explain
why the majority of US high school students
think that Joan of Arc was Noah's wife:)

Iain
 
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clanker

Jan 1, 1970
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Arny said:
*****snippedysnip

Given the quality of your writing and its contents Basset, what sort of
mind-altering substance are you on right now?

The "mind altering substance" is oxygen, stolen from real people....

.....unless bassett won some in a spelling contest.
 
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bassett

Jan 1, 1970
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clanker said:
The "mind altering substance" is oxygen, stolen from real people....

....unless bassett won some in a spelling contest.

Thank you for your eloquent contribution, You and Terrell, should get
together, you would make a perfect pair.
As for the spelling, WE speak and spell correctly, Unlike you Septics who
tend to corrupt everything you touch

bassett
 
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Keithr

Jan 1, 1970
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Arny said:
OK, Rhode Island is small compared to Antartica.

Alaska: : 656,425 square miles:

Texas: : 268,601 square miles:

France: 211,208 square miles

California: : 163,707 square miles:

Montana: : 147,046 square miles:

Germany 137,858 square miles

Norway 125,000 square miles

Western Australia 1,021,478 square miles

Queensland 715,309 square miles

Northern Territory 502,902 square miles

South Australia 402,903 square miles

New South Wales 312,528 square miles

So there you have it - 2 states bigger than Alaska, 5 bigger than Texas.

but then, size isn't everything is it?
 
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clanker

Jan 1, 1970
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bassett said:
Thank you for your eloquent contribution, You and Terrell, should get
together, you would make a perfect pair.
As for the spelling, WE speak and spell correctly, Unlike you Septics who
tend to corrupt everything you touch

bassett

Says an illiterate, mind-numbingly stupid "dog" with a pommy accent !

Congratulations on the spelling in your last post, let me guess - mummy
showed you how to use a spell-checker ?
 
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bassett

Jan 1, 1970
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clanker said:
Says an illiterate, mind-numbingly stupid "dog" with a pommy accent !

Congratulations on the spelling in your last post, let me guess - mummy
showed you how to use a spell-checker ?

Nice to see I'm once again correct and there's no argument from the minions,
Even if it has become rather boring attempting to communicate with "trailer
trash'' who
still look up to people like Jerry Springer for direction and guidence.

But I must say it's very perceivable of you, arriving at a judgement on my
accent, which
you gleaned from words of infinite wisdom. Pity your total wrong, Still
that's no surprise,
I doubt you have ever been correct about anything, in your sad little life.


bassett
 
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bassett

Jan 1, 1970
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TT said:
Well it's nice to brag I have the big one ;-) Now tell Arny that the
population of WA is around 2,200,000. That's 2 people per square mile :)

Cheers TT
What more do you need to mow the Lawns and trim the edges.
 
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Mike Coatham

Jan 1, 1970
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bassett said:
Nice to see I'm once again correct and there's no argument from the minions,
Even if it has become rather boring attempting to communicate with "trailer
trash'' who
still look up to people like Jerry Springer for direction and guidence.

But I must say it's very perceivable of you, arriving at a judgement on my
accent, which
you gleaned from words of infinite wisdom. Pity your total wrong, Still
that's no surprise,
I doubt you have ever been correct about anything, in your sad little life.


bassett

Bassett - you appear to have a problem - one second you are stating "WE
speak and spell correctly...." and in the next breath completely mangle
the English language. And I quote " Pity your total wrong....."
For goodness sake get it right. The correct statement is...... "Pity
you're ( short for YOU ARE) totally wrong".
 
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Keithr

Jan 1, 1970
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TT said:
Well it's nice to brag I have the big one ;-) Now tell Arny
that the population of WA is around 2,200,000. That's 2
people per square mile :)

The question is whether that is an advantantage or a disadvantage. I
lived in Carnarvon in the 60s it was a long lonely drive to Perth. Then
again flying from LA to Boston, you pass over a lot of uninhabited
country. Like us, the yanks tend to cluster into the more desirable real
estate.


Keith
 
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Keithr

Jan 1, 1970
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Mike said:
Bassett - you appear to have a problem - one second you are stating "WE
speak and spell correctly...." and in the next breath completely mangle
the English language. And I quote " Pity your total wrong....."
For goodness sake get it right. The correct statement is...... "Pity
you're ( short for YOU ARE) totally wrong".

Unfortunately, due in large part to the influence of the internet, the
distinction between your and you're is rapidly disapearing

Keith
 
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Keithr

Jan 1, 1970
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Arny said:
Yeah, but it is all grass.

ROFL, obviously you have never been there
Yeah, but it is all grass or desert.

You are showing your ignorance Arnie, do some research
Yeah, but it is all grass or desert.

You are showing your ignorance Arnie, do some research
Yeah, but it is all grass or desert.

You are showing your ignorance Arnie, do some research
Yeah, but it is all grass or desert.

You are showing your ignorance Arnie, do some research
What you don't seem to get is that Texas is a civilized, productive state
with a number of great cities and modern infrastructure. Texas, just one
state has a population of 23,507,783, while the whole of Australia has
same-year population of only 20,600,856. Texas, just one state has a GSP of
$771 billion dollars while all of Australia has same-year GNP $544 billion
dollars. Do the math - the average Texan is almost 50% more productive than
the average aussie, which is one reason why we have less wasteland.

If we accept you figures, which I don't have time to check, it would
imply that the average Texan produces $32,531 per year and the average
Australian $26,408 per year. I.e. the average Australian produces 81% of
a Texan - it looks like your numeracy skills are on a par with your
literacy ones.
Alaska is the only US state that compares to Australia for absence of
civilization. Unlike Australia we have 49 other states that are definitely
civilized. Well, 48 - Nevada is pretty sparse. ;-)


Exactly. Unlike underdeveloped spaces like Australia that are mostly desert
and grazing land, the US has plenty of empty space, *and* lots of
well-developed land populated by a wealthy,highly productive people.

And extremely poor people living off the minimum wage with no health cover.

Like most Americans you confuse quantity with quality lets look at The
Economist's 2008 top 10 list of most livable cities

1 Vancouver Canada 98.8
2 Melbourne Australia 98.2
3 Vienna Austria 97.9
4 Perth Australia 97.3
5 Toronto Canada 97.0
6 Helsinki Finland 96.9
7 Adelaide Australia 96.6
- Calgary Canada 96.6
9 Geneva Switzerland 96.1
- Sydney Australia 96.1
- Zurich Switzerland 96.1

I see 4 Australian cities there but no US ones

Then there is Mercer's quality of living index survey 2008

1 Zurich Switzerland 108
2 Vienna Austria 107.9
- Geneva Switzerland 107.9
4 Vancouver Canada 107.6
5 Auckland New Zealand 107.3
6 Dusseldorf Germany 107.2
7 Munich Germany 107
- Frankfurt Germany 107
9 Bern Switzerland 106.5
10 Sydney Australia 106.3
11 Copenhagen Denmark 106.2
12 Wellington New Zealand 105.8
13 Amsterdam The Netherlands 105.7
14 Brussels Belgium 105.4
15 Toronto Canada 105.3
16 Berlin Germany 105
17 Melbourne Australia 104.8
- Luxembourg Luxembourg 104.8
19 Ottawa Canada 104.8
20 Stockholm Sweden 104.5
21 Perth Australia 104.3
22 Montreal Canada 104.2
23 Nurnberg Germany 104.1
24 Oslo Norway 103.7
25 Dublin Ireland 103.5
- Calgary Canada 103.5
27 Hamburg Germany 103.4
28 Honolulu US 103.1

Wow! there is an American city there at 28 behind 3 Australian ones. I
don't think that I would call Honolulu a typical American city though.
 
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Keithr

Jan 1, 1970
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Hey Arnie, I just found this:-

Morgan Quitno Press' 6th Annual Safest City Award

"MOST DANGEROUS" RANK ORDER

A Score of "0.00" would reflect an average crime rate at the national
rate in the six crimes reviewed. A positive score reflects an average
rate above the national rate.

Dangerous Order Safest Order City Score

1 315 Detroit, MI 354.71
2 314 Atlanta, GA 348.29
3 313 Camden, NJ 320.07
4 312 Baltimore, MD 307.57
5 311 St. Louis, MO 302.33
6 310 Gary, IN 286.37
7 309 Flint, MI 273.29
8 308 West Palm Beach, FL 267.61
9 307 Miami, FL 255.59
10 306 New Orleans, LA 249.15
11 305 Tampa, FL 238.68
12 304 Kansas City, MO 236.86
13 303 Jackson, MS 236.32
14 302 Richmond, VA 235.00
15 301 Youngstown, OH 231.89
16 300 Newark, NJ 230.94
17 299 Washington, DC 230.88
18 298 Compton, CA 216.77
19 297 Orlando, FL 210.33
20 296 Memphis, TN 206.64

So there you have it, the most dangerous of 315 cities in the US, it is
a pity they don't do an international one.
 
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clanker

Jan 1, 1970
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TT said:
Hint: Consider the alterative, that a certain mutt just maybe putting on a
bit of an act ;-)

Cheers TT

Rubbish, the bassett fool *really is* that stupid.

A bitter twisted thing he is.
 
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bassett

Jan 1, 1970
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a>
Bassett - you appear to have a problem - one second you are stating "WE
speak and spell correctly...." and in the next breath completely mangle
the English language. And I quote " Pity your total wrong....."
For goodness sake get it right. The correct statement is...... "Pity
you're ( short for YOU ARE) totally wrong".

I had to write it that way, the green light was flashing, to tell me my
computer was nearly out if Ink.
And the count down had started on the number of letters I had left.

bassett
PS, Love to Barbarrrrrrrrrrrrra
 
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