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Discussion in 'Electronic Design' started by Cason, Jul 8, 2004.

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  1. Cason

    Cason Guest

    1. I am new to programming Atmel and I need a good board to program the
    chips with as well as software. I prefer to use assembly language. Does
    anyonw know of a good board or software? I am mainly interested in the
    AT89C1051 but would like a flexible programming board.

    2. Is the AT89C1051 directly compatible with the AT89C2051? Is the only
    difference the amount of memory?

    3. What chip do any of you recommend as far as flexablity?

    Thanks, Cason
  2. Activ8

    Activ8 Guest

    You need to hang out at AVR Freaks and PICList. Google those.
  3. for 1051 and 2051
    I like the Iguana labs programmer,

    I've tested 3 different 2051 programmers and so far it and the
    included windows software was the best. Most low cost programmers for
    2051 are dos command line based, or used a download from a terminal
    program to load the processor, both very annoying, the Iguana software
    just reads the file straight from the compiler without going through
    binhex or similar file formating, which is very nice, and much faster.

    I have no financial interests in Iguana.

    Steve Roberts
  4. Activ8

    Activ8 Guest

    "Microcontroller Beginner Kit - Our Microcontroller Beginner Kit
    includes everything needed to get started in electronics. No
    experience required. "

    No electronics experience seems to be the norm with mcus these days.
    Pretty soon the downsizing/budget cutting dweebs will be hiring
    embedded guys with no HS diploma required.
  5. Jacek Bogusz

    Jacek Bogusz Guest

    1. I am new to programming Atmel and I need a good board to program the
    You can use free demo software from Raisonance. You can download this from It is C and assembler compiler - free up to 4kB
    of code. I think it is enough to start programming ;-)
    Use AT89S8252. It is 8052 compatibile chip. You can use serial programmer, a
    few resistors only. You don't need a special programming board. You can
    upload the software in application and test it, remove bugs etc.
    Yes. The next is AT89C4051 with 4kB flash.
    AT89S8252 (or any from 89S serie): 8kB FLASH, 2kB EEPROM, 256 bytes RAM,
    UART & SPI. Crystals up to 24MHz.

  6. Tim Wescott

    Tim Wescott Guest

    Are you saying that one must jump through all the scholastic hoops
    before one becomes competent?

    Hmm. Maybe they should all pass the civil service exam, too.
  7. Activ8

    Activ8 Guest

    Not hardly. But I've seen a fair amount of list questions from
    people with roughly no electronics knowlege at all.
  8. Tim Wescott

    Tim Wescott Guest

    And they should probably be gently steered to sci.electronics.basic,
    assuming that group is good about answering questions.

    I've worked with a lot of very competent embedded software engineers who
    have very little electronics knowledge, and none of it formal. If the
    team includes at least one person who understands both software and
    hardware you can get by with an embedded software person who can do no
    more than read a schematic and figure out which port bit is wired to
    which bit of electronics.

    And for some people if they don't dive in and start screwing up they'll
    never learn. It's like when my dear old dad taught me to swim: the
    hardest part was getting the bag untied.
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