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Art of Electronics, 3rd edition ?

Discussion in 'Electronic Design' started by Bob Engelhardt, Jan 7, 2010.

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  1. Last I heard, it was targeted for early 2010. Any recent news? Bob
     
  2. Hill has been strangely absent for some time, working hard on it I
    guess.

    Cheers
     
  3. A real academic crime wave.
    However, I suppose it might be tempting for a poverty stricken student,
    but reading scanned pages on a computer is crap. I don't know about the
    other books, but the AoE in PDF is worse than photocopies.

    --
    Dirk

    http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
    http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
     

  4. I doubt that ANY of those are scanned.

    You can buy most of those books in that format.
     

  5. Hey, I just did a google hunt, I don't make the files.
     
  6. Nico Coesel

    Nico Coesel Guest

    Or not. With every delay new stuff gets invented that should go in
    there and other stuff is obsolete. Besides with all the information on
    the internet you don't really need a book like AoE anyway.
     
  7. By that reasoning, you don't need any technical book or textbook, ever.
    All one has to do is sort through the zillions of web pages, discard the
    crap (whatever that is), and then memorize the data.

    --
    Dirk

    http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
    http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
     
  8. Tim Williams

    Tim Williams Guest

    I've done remarkably well for myself that way.

    Note: "discard the crap (whatever that is)" is tempered with actual
    on-the-bench experience.

    I honestly don't have many books. I learned the basics from a few, a whole
    hell of a lot more from the bench, and the rest I look up on the internet.

    Tim
     
  9. Rich Webb

    Rich Webb Guest

    On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:41:21 GMT, Jan Panteltje

    [snippety snip]
    Indeed. They're teaming up with Circuit Cellar, to give Elektor a
    presence over here and also for CC over in the EC.

    http://www.circuitcellar.com/archives/priorityinterrupt/234.html
     
  10. Nico Coesel

    Nico Coesel Guest

    Elektor/Elektuur still exists. They publish just as many crap circuits
    as you can find on the internet. The basic rule is: if you don't
    understand how a circuit works don't build it! Otherwise you'll get
    burned sooner or later.
    That would be a waste of time IMHO. AoE just doesn't cut it. To high
    level for beginners and too low level for designers. I'd recommend AoE
    to an R&D manager like Dilbert's boss.
     
  11. pimpom

    pimpom Guest

    I subscribed to the Indian edition of the English version of
    Elektor until they stopped publishing the Indian edition some 10
    years ago. I consider the web to be a complement to books, not a
    complete substitute. The web is great for looking up specific
    bits of information, but not that great as a general reference.

    I used to do a lot of repair work in the past - on consumer,
    medical and industrial products. More often than not, I had to
    work on products I'd never seen before or, in many cases, even
    heard of. The few times a schematic is available, I find the
    European style of presenting diagrams very inconvenient. I mean
    the habit of putting only a small section of the whole thing on
    one page, making it necessary to hunt for the page where line D37
    goes. It may be OK for a company-trained service engineer who
    already has a good overall familiarity with the product, but not
    for someone trying to figure out how the damn thing works. I
    liken the web to those European-style diagrams.
     
  12. xray

    xray Guest

    So true. The lunatics are running the asylum.

    I used to monitor the group to learn, and occasionally share, but things
    became very ugly when Jim went psycho between 9/11 and the 2004
    elections.

    He's obviously a corrupting influence here, but he doesn't want for gang
    members and lap dogs who contribute to the decline of this group. I can
    only tolerate a quick browse through here now, once every few months,
    and that is usually hard to stomach.

    I remember Win trying to have reasonable discussions but Jim being an
    insulting asshole of megalomaniacal proportions, as he predictably is to
    anyone who doesn't buy into his peculiar world view. Perhaps he was
    snubbed by elitist Bostonian weenies back when he was young and barely
    out of the hills of West Virginia (or was it Kentucky, I forget) and he
    still holds a grudge.

    Jim has appointed himself the Rupert Murdoch of SED except that he is
    also like a Glen Bleck or Rush Limbarf, front-line, thug / dancing
    clown.

    It feels like a 50's or 60's high school movie where the delinquents are
    controlling the school, except our disruptive rebels average out in
    their 60's age wise. Arrgh!

    Little wonder we haven't seen anyone as decent and sensible as Win
    around here anymore. As a Bob Dylan lyric once said, "Anyone with any
    sense had already left town."


    P.S., On this pass through, I did stumble on an interesting link that
    pointed me at help toward a solution to something that I was looking
    for. It's nice that there still are a percentage of on-topic posts that
    get a bit of good discussion before they take off on some orthogonal
    tangent.

    And there are quite a number of people still hanging out here who
    maintain a high level of purpose and sanity. Kudos to you!

    Even many of the rebel rumblers also post good stuff between the OT
    episodes. Don't let the Off-Topic devils tempt you. There are other
    places to exorcise or exercise your demons. Remember back to when you
    were innocent witnesses of the circuits and physics. My brethren, come
    back to the electromagnetic and photon flow. Cast off the politics and
    egotistical ramblings. Call not your brother a leftist weenie nor a tea
    bagging nazi. Let logic, rationality and common decency once again come
    to the fore.

    It's for our mutual health. Try to care. Weather the storm, be it hot or
    cold. (A lame parting shot, perhaps. Wrong. Forgive me.)
     
  13. Well stated, sir.
     

  14. Arrogant asshole. By your own logic, You have become so juvenile that
    you shouldn't post at all.
     
  15. Yeah.
    He merely co-authored the best and most accessible general electronics
    book for decades.

    --
    Dirk

    http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
    http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
     

  16. Why don't you and Terrell get a room?

    We don't need to see you licking each others' balls in the technical
    groups.
     
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