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Discussion in 'Electronic Design' started by The Real Andy, Feb 15, 2007.

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  1. I thought this was funny,

    DL the adds and use VLC, quicktime makes you install itunes.

    I went out to buy a mac this week, until i saw the price. I am still
    considering it though.
  2. J.A. Legris

    J.A. Legris Guest

    Money well spent. Just do it.
  3. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    Why is a Mac better ?

  4. Didi

    Didi Guest

    Why is a Mac better ?

    I am asking myself the same question since they became
    Intel based... Perhaps we could also ask "what's the
    difference"? (apart from MS & Apple marketing them as
    different things).
    Just wondering as a spectator to both PC and Apple
    worlds (if they are still separated at all, that is,
    trying to figure that out).

  5. AZ Nomad

    AZ Nomad Guest

    That's always been the major downside of macs. The prices border on
  6. Ken Smith

    Ken Smith Guest

    OS-X is BSD unix. It is quite robust. Apples are less open to viruses
    etc. More importantly, their ads are funny.
  7. AZ Nomad

    AZ Nomad Guest

    *Everything* is more secure than microsoft windows. Microsoft windows,
    by default, is run with no security at all. Any process at any time can
    overwrite the operating system. Vista is only slightly better. A
    malicious program has to take a extra step or two to then go and clobber
    the system.
  8. Just buy a normal PC and install Linux, and be done with it.
    Jobs (the person) talks about removing DRM completely.
    In that case Vista is a joke, as it is the only new thing it has.
    So it could well be Vista is dead already, and Apple is always twice the price.
    Linux is free, but you will have to set apart a few years to learn Unix,
    and then also a few years to write the apps you cannot find or buy.
    Now that is honest aint it?
  9. John  Larkin

    John Larkin Guest

    I got my wife a Mac, after her Windows system tied itself in knots.
    It's fabulous. The packaging and industrial design are stunning. The
    OS is simple to set up and use, makes sense, is consistant, and seems
    bulletproof. It powers up and down in seconds.

    The only part we had trouble with was Word, written by you-know-who
    hacks. It got tangled up somehow, so we shut down in frustration. The
    next morning, it worked fine. I'm convinced that the Mac has a little
    Word repairman running in background.

    Windows damages itself, and the Mac OS seems to repair itself.

    Windows has always been a badly bungled imitation of the Mac OS. Vista
    sounds like more of the same, a bad imitation of Apple but using 5x
    the resources.

  10. Didi

    Didi Guest

    Linux is free, but you will have to set apart a few years to learn Unix,
    Oh I have already spent enough time to not need windows or Linux to
    do my design and programming. I still have no pdf reader running
    under DPS and no decent browser, but one of these days I'll port
    some of those GPL things, I guess. For now I keep a wintel tv-set
    for that purpose, perhaps I'll gather courage these days and
    make it double-bootable (I think I know how to do it but I don't
    know the chances things will go wrong and restoring may take me
    a whole day so I postpone it... :).
    I would not trust much of what he says. There recently was
    a BBC article saying each ipod had the DRM (under another
    name, fair-something IIRC) inside it, it is all about
    who controls the access to the data, now whether there
    is a control.
    It certainly is :)

  11. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    What we need is an Apple that will run non-Microsoft-Windows apps...
    such as PSpice ;-)

    ...Jim Thompson
  12. J.A. Legris

    J.A. Legris Guest

  13. Nitro

    Nitro Guest

    Another option is to run a virtual machine under linux or OSX. When your
    windows setup gets funky just restart with the good image.

    Here is yet another VM package (now open source GPL version.)

    To quote their site
    "Support for Mac OS X and 64-bit operating systems is currently in the
    works." (For the host OS)
    The OSX version is in alpha test stage.

    Current Hosts: Windows 32 bit, Linux, OSX (alpha), and OS2 (OS/2 is not
    mentioned but they have a screen shot of the alpha version ;-)
    Current Guests: FreeBSD, Linux (2.4&2.6), OpenBSD, OS/2, Windows NT,2000,
    XP, 2003 server, Vista.
    (See the docs for exceptions.)

    - Bart
  14. But you see, that is what I do not want to do. I want to buy a
    notebook that works from day 1. I am a programmer, so I spend enough
    time with computers to not want to spend my spare time screwing around
    with linux.
  15. That is why I am still considering buying a Mac.
  16. John Perry

    John Perry Guest

    But it's open-source only for the crippleware version. USB interface,
    for instance, is only available in the (closed) commercial version.

    John Perry
  17. t.hoehler

    t.hoehler Guest

    True enough, but if the damn thing works, and doesn't tie itself up in knots
    on a regular basis, it is well worth it, IMHO.
    You get your work done, and the dumb ass playbaby virus creating dickheads
    leave it alone.
    Why do we glamorize "hackers" with a nice, pc name? Why don't we and the
    media call them as they are, "criminal, no good, immature bastards"?
  18. Apple's Boot Camp is gratis: <>
    and Parallels Desktop is less than US$80: <> ,
    so I can't see how the VirtualBox can compete...
  19. Rich Grise

    Rich Grise Guest

    You've got this ass-backwards. A true Hacker is one who isn't afraid to
    "hack" (i.e., understand and modify circuitry, which sometimes involves
    literally "hacking" into the PC board) - it used to be somewhat like a
    badge of honor, much like "geek", except with hardware.

    The scriptkiddies, pirates, and other low-lifes have hijacked the term
    for themselves, or maybe it was the stupid-ass media that did it.

    They should quit calling them "hackers" and call them "fuckheads".


  20. The proper term is "Terrorist".

    Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
    prove it.
    Member of DAV #85.

    Michael A. Terrell
    Central Florida
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