Apple 30 Or 60 Gigs Video ipod .... Uk Enquiry

[VW Internet]

Hi Room,
I went into a shop yesterday, with the sole, intention of
buying an Apple iPod 30,60 Gigs.
The guy in the shop told me they didnt stock them, as they were rubbish.
When i asked why, he said.

1. They have Rubbish battery Life. ( He said he has heard the battery life
on some of them is 5 hours or so )
2. They are too expensive for what they are. ( He said £219.00 for the 30
G )

He pointed me to the Creative iPod, and the Phillips iPod.
I wasnt convinced.

What is the the experience you guys have had, and what are the best deals to
be had?
Do i listen to what he said, and go for a better brand?
Is it worth getting video on it, as i was thinking if i am going to get
video, i might as well go for the 60 Gig.

In the Uk the which magazine are doing a 30 Day trial free, and i might
subscribe, and see what they say about there reviews.
The trouble is they want all your credit card details.

Thankyou very much.

 

[milou]

Hi Room,

No one with this name here.

 

[frank]

Hi Room,
I went into a shop yesterday, with the sole, intention of
buying an Apple iPod 30,60 Gigs.
The guy in the shop told me they didnt stock them, as they were rubbish.

Typical sales person paid on commission. They will lie and tell you
anything, do some research FIRST. Why buy a product you say you know
nothing about.

In the Uk the which magazine are doing a 30 Day trial free, and i might
subscribe, and see what they say about there reviews.
The trouble is they want all your credit card details.

Why subscribe to WHICH magazine when you can use search engines to get
product information and reviews.

Thankyou very much.

It's a pleasure.

 

[James Sweet]

Hi Room,
I went into a shop yesterday, with the sole, intention of
buying an Apple iPod 30,60 Gigs.
The guy in the shop told me they didnt stock them, as they were rubbish.
When i asked why, he said.

1. They have Rubbish battery Life. ( He said he has heard the battery life
on some of them is 5 hours or so )
2. They are too expensive for what they are. ( He said £219.00 for the 30
G )

He pointed me to the Creative iPod, and the Phillips iPod.
I wasnt convinced.

What is the the experience you guys have had, and what are the best deals to
be had?
Do i listen to what he said, and go for a better brand?
Is it worth getting video on it, as i was thinking if i am going to get
video, i might as well go for the 60 Gig.

In the Uk the which magazine are doing a 30 Day trial free, and i might
subscribe, and see what they say about there reviews.
The trouble is they want all your credit card details.

Thankyou very much.

I've been doing a lot of testing of portable media devices in my job, I
can say that the Creative products have been mediocre at best, and the
software they ship with is garbage. The Philips devices look kinda cool
but they're even worse, complete junk, they lock up constantly, the
controls are not intuitive and the screen is of poor quality.

I'm a PC/Windows guy and certainly no Apple fanboy but their iPod
hardware is hands down the best designed, slickest, most intuitive
device in it's class and the only of ~25 different similar devices I've
worked with that I'd recommend without hesitation.

 

[Gavin]

Typical sales person paid on commission. They will lie and tell you
anything, do some research FIRST. Why buy a product you say you know
nothing about.

the sales droid may have some element of truth there, ipods are not
the best MP3 player out there in terms of features on them, but they
are common, well styled and the ease of use has pushed it in the
public conciouysnes, if you say you want an ipod everyone knows what
you mean, if you say you want a mp3 player people look blankly at you.

Any shop selling mp3 player's and not carrying apple is just asking to
lose sales.

Why subscribe to WHICH magazine when you can use search engines to get
product information and reviews.

Personally I've never found Which to do really indepth tests, there ok
as a read but i wouldn't rely on them for a purchasing descision

 

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Why subscribe to WHICH magazine when you can use search engines to get
product information and reviews.

Which? reviews are impartial? Most of the reviews you find by a search are
just ads.

 

[VW Internet]

I've been doing a lot of testing of portable media devices in my job, I
can say that the Creative products have been mediocre at best, and the
software they ship with is garbage. The Philips devices look kinda cool
but they're even worse, complete junk, they lock up constantly, the
controls are not intuitive and the screen is of poor quality.

I'm a PC/Windows guy and certainly no Apple fanboy but their iPod
hardware is hands down the best designed, slickest, most intuitive
device in it's class and the only of ~25 different similar devices I've
worked with that I'd recommend without hesitation.

Hi James,
That info is usefull to know, so they are not a total pile of
rubbish then?
What is the battery life on the ipods?


Thanks

 

[milou]

Hi James,
That info is usefull to know, so they are not a total pile of
rubbish then?
What is the battery life on the ipods?

Unless they are free of charge, there is no real point crossposting
this to freebies NG, is there?

 

[Umgall]

Hi James,
That info is usefull to know, so they are not a total pile of
rubbish then?
What is the battery life on the ipods?

We have 4 iPods in this house ;-). The old 20GB 3rd gen iPod has a crap
battery. It's down to about 1 hour of use after a couple of years nearly
solid use. However, they were notorious for poor battery performance, and
Apple changed the battery type for all subsequent iPods.

The 4GB Nano lasts about 12-15 hours, depending on how loud my wee lad
decides to listen.

My wife's 30GB video ipod and my 60GB video ipod both last about 8-10 hours
when listening to music, or about 2 hours when watching video. I use mine
on average 4 hours per day, or up to 10 hours per day when I'm travelling.

I have to agree with other posters. I've had Philips, Creative and Sony in
the past, and got rid of them all in preference to the Apple. Sound
quality, build quality, and software are all much better than any of the
competition.

And remember, Apple doesn't have 73% of the market for no reason. If they
were as bad as the sales person said, then surely they wouldn't be as
popular.

Umgall

 

[oO]

Hi James,
That info is usefull to know, so they are not a total pile of
rubbish then?
What is the battery life on the ipods?

60gb Ipod with video is 20 hours before recharge is needed

 

[M.Joshi]

Hi Room,
I went into a shop yesterday, with the sole, intention of
buying an Apple iPod 30,60 Gigs.
The guy in the shop told me they didnt stock them, as they wer
rubbish.
When i asked why, he said.

1. They have Rubbish battery Life. ( He said he has heard the batter
life
on some of them is 5 hours or so )
2. They are too expensive for what they are. ( He said £219.00 for th
30
G )

He pointed me to the Creative iPod, and the Phillips iPod.
I wasnt convinced.

What is the the experience you guys have had, and what are the bes
deals to
be had?
Do i listen to what he said, and go for a better brand?
Is it worth getting video on it, as i was thinking if i am going t
get
video, i might as well go for the 60 Gig.

In the Uk the which magazine are doing a 30 Day trial free, and
might
subscribe, and see what they say about there reviews.
The trouble is they want all your credit card details.

Thankyou very much.

Hi,

Have a look at IRiver products - they offer many additional feature
compared to an IPod and are also easy to operate with firmware upgrade
released where necessary

 

[Ben Measures]

60gb Ipod with video is 20 hours before recharge is needed

Note that's 20 hrs audio, as specified by the manufacturer. YMMV.

 

[Ian Tindale]

He pointed me to the Creative iPod, and the Phillips iPod.

I wasn't aware that Apple were allowing other companies to use their
trademark and brand name.

 

[James Sweet]

Hi James,
That info is usefull to know, so they are not a total pile of
rubbish then?
What is the battery life on the ipods?


Thanks

Honestly I'm not really sure, I've never done any battery life testing
since that's out of my scope and I've never run my nano down all the
way, it seems to do pretty close to the stated 14 hours or so though.
They're not perfect but then none are, but they are quite good overall.

 

[James Sweet]

Hi,

Have a look at IRiver products - they offer many additional features
compared to an IPod and are also easy to operate with firmware upgrades
released where necessary.

Those too are worth a look, as well as a few of the latest Samsung
players. To me they don't *quite* match the iPod but they're good
products none the less.

 

[Gavin]

Honestly I'm not really sure, I've never done any battery life testing
since that's out of my scope and I've never run my nano down all the
way, it seems to do pretty close to the stated 14 hours or so though.
They're not perfect but then none are, but they are quite good overall.

Remember it varies according to what your doing.

Watching video needs more processing power and the backlight to stay
on.

You'd be lucky to get the manufactureres stated 3 hours from the
battery if your using it for video playback

 

[Rob Stradling]

As others have said, I get about 15-20hrs (music) and 2-2.5hrs (video)
out of my 60Gb iPod.

Another thing worth mentioning is that the battery recharges very
quickly via USB. I think the specs quote 4hrs but mine seems a lot
faster than that.