Anyone use Honeywell 7845 AlarmNet Cellular backup?

[Total nerd]

Has anyone used the Honeywell 7845CV2 Cellular backup device through
AlarmNet?
http://www.security.honeywell.com/hsce/products/alarm/re/34407.html
I'm wondering how easy this would be to hook up to an existing Napco
Gemini P3200 and to have it dial my existing central station company if
the phone line should fail, etc?
Thanks

 

[Mark Leuck]

Has anyone used the Honeywell 7845CV2 Cellular backup device through
AlarmNet?
http://www.security.honeywell.com/hsce/products/alarm/re/34407.html
I'm wondering how easy this would be to hook up to an existing Napco
Gemini P3200 and to have it dial my existing central station company if
the phone line should fail, etc?
Thanks

The unit itself will not dial your central station AlarmNet does, the
7845CV2 will not detect phone failure you'd have to have the Napco panel
trigger it on a fail to communicate if thats possible

 

[Jim]

Has anyone used the Honeywell 7845CV2 Cellular backup device through
AlarmNet?
http://www.security.honeywell.com/hsce/products/alarm/re/34407.html
I'm wondering how easy this would be to hook up to an existing Napco
Gemini P3200 and to have it dial my existing central station company if
the phone line should fail, etc?
Thanks

When using cellular backup with Napco panels I always use the 3008
relay panel. This way I can send different siganls for fire, burg,
panic, duress, and telephone failure.
I also trip the 3200 if the cell fails too.

If you're going to use the 3008 make sure you get the unit in the metal
box. You can order it board only, but it just doesn't fit in the 3200
panel along with everything else.

 

[Mark Leuck]

When using cellular backup with Napco panels I always use the 3008
relay panel. This way I can send different siganls for fire, burg,
panic, duress, and telephone failure.
I also trip the 3200 if the cell fails too.

If you're going to use the 3008 make sure you get the unit in the metal
box. You can order it board only, but it just doesn't fit in the 3200
panel along with everything else.

That wouldn't work with the 7845C, Uplink yes

 

[Total nerd]

I already have the Napco panel detect a phone line failure and I
suppose I could purchase a 3008 relay board too, but then which device
could I use as a cellular backup dialer? I was hoping such a device
could simply be used in place of a dial tone, and everything else acted
the same, but I'm learning that's not entirely possible. All these
companies have their own proprietary cell networks with monthly fees
associated with them, etc. etc. It almost looks as though I would use
the cell dialer IN PLACE of my home phone dialer.

 

[Bob Worthy]

Although cell units have been used as a primary means of communication to
central, it is usually when there is no other choice. Your regular phone
line, through your local carrier (Bell), **not** a private provider, cable
or VOIP start up, is the most secure means of communication to central. Use
the cell as a backup as it was intended.
..

 

[Jim]

That wouldn't work with the 7845C, Uplink yes

Hmmm! you're right. I wouldn't use the C version. If you're going to
have a back up reporting device, and it only sends two signals, ( three
if you use the fault relay output)and someone cut the phone lines and
then invaded the house ....... the home owner presses the panic button
and is sends a burglary signal?

Nah!

For the small additional cost use the CZ version along with the 3008
relay box. It doesn't send every zone but breaks it up into back up
signals that have some meaning.

 

[Jim]

I already have the Napco panel detect a phone line failure and I
suppose I could purchase a 3008 relay board too, but then which device
could I use as a cellular backup dialer?

Use the CZ version. It has multiple zone inputs.

I was hoping such a device
could simply be used in place of a dial tone, and everything else acted
the same, but I'm learning that's not entirely possible. All these
companies have their own proprietary cell networks with monthly fees
associated with them, etc. etc.

Yep, that's capitalism for ya.

It almost looks as though I would use
the cell dialer IN PLACE of my home phone dialer.

The idea is to have a "backup". If one fails you have the other method
to use to get your signals out. There's no reason to believe that the
cellular
or other device that you use, wouldn't ever fail. Telephone lines can
be
tampered with, cellular or radio can go out of service. Does your cell
phone
work 100% of the time?

 

[Mark Leuck]

I already have the Napco panel detect a phone line failure and I
suppose I could purchase a 3008 relay board too, but then which device
could I use as a cellular backup dialer? I was hoping such a device
could simply be used in place of a dial tone, and everything else acted
the same, but I'm learning that's not entirely possible. All these
companies have their own proprietary cell networks with monthly fees
associated with them, etc. etc. It almost looks as though I would use
the cell dialer IN PLACE of my home phone dialer.

In that case you want a TelGuard cellular backup, it will allow reporting
only if the phone line goes down but the panel has to report or detect a
phone line failure

 

[Mark Leuck]

Hmmm! you're right. I wouldn't use the C version. If you're going to
have a back up reporting device, and it only sends two signals, ( three
if you use the fault relay output)and someone cut the phone lines and
then invaded the house ....... the home owner presses the panic button
and is sends a burglary signal?

Nah!

For the small additional cost use the CZ version along with the 3008
relay box. It doesn't send every zone but breaks it up into back up
signals that have some meaning.

I believe with the CZ you also have to have a 4219 zone expander to get
those zones and depending on the zone it will send it may send a burg signal
instead of a panic but since it would be in 4/2 format you can define it
anyway you want

 

[Jim]

I believe with the CZ you also have to have a 4219 zone expander to get
those zones and depending on the zone it will send it may send a burg signal
instead of a panic but since it would be in 4/2 format you can define it
anyway you want

Well you "believe" wrong.

Total of six inputs mapped to seven reporting zones.

Five hardwired, voltage triggered input zones that are programmable for
inverted or non-inverted operation.

Two zones mapped to one physical input that detect both burg and fire (
steady and pulsed) signals when connected to the bell output of a
control panel. These inputs can be 2K EOL supervised, voltage triggered
or groud triggered.

Open collector programmable radio fault output in Zone mode.

 

[Mark Leuck]

Well you "believe" wrong.

You are correct, I'm getting my CV's and CZ's mixed up

 

[adintechie]

responding to
http://www.secure-gear.com/security...ywell-7845-AlarmNet-Cellular-backup-8901-.htm
adintechie wrote:
With any of the Ademco GSM units I have used, if you want to use contact
ID
output from the panel, you need their digital capture board to work with
the
panel. Other option, DSC's GSM has it built in & is less expensive. You
also
can't remote program through the Alarmnet unit as it needs total control
of the
phone line. You also lose the dialer with GSM backup with the Alarmnet
unit
because of it taking total control of the dial output.