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Discussion in 'Electronic Repair' started by Fred, Dec 4, 2004.

  1. Fred

    Fred Guest

    Not related to anything, but GE employees call the GE logo the "meatball".

    After seeing how they treated my friend, who is THE best salesman I have
    ever seen, I wouldn't use a GE product to wipe my butt with.

    He used to sell for one of their industrial divisions until he got fed up
    and got a decent company to work for. They can't do a good job calling on
    customers because HQ is always sending the latest green VP down to ride
    around with them. Then, when they're allowed to plan their own day, they
    have to limit their sales calls because of the time required to fill out the
    reams of meaningless reports. In the mean time, their customers wait for
    weeks for GE customer service to contact them. I myself was interested in
    an industrial product and never did get anyone to give a reference on it.

    Fred
     
  2. Around here I would call it Gone Eccentric. They might have been right or
    wrong in getting out of the Power Transformer business but that left six
    thousand without jobs a few years back. Recently Plastics brought fifty or
    sixty people from India and Mexico here to train as accounts
    payable/receivable clerks and help desk assistants. Those people eventually
    went back to their countries with the jobs that were done here. Of course,
    the people doing the training here in the States are now unemployed. They
    may "Bring good things to life" but they can ruthlessly destroy good lives
    also.

    Bill
     
  3. Jamie

    Jamie Guest

    or Generally defective.
     
  4. none

    none Guest

    Touche
     
  5. none

    none Guest

    Fred, I grew up way back when in a home that had to deal with GE and
    all the crap they dish out.
    My old man was an electrical engineer working in one of their
    industrial divisions servicing motors and generators.
    I still hate GE with my heart and soul to this very day.
    It wasn't untill my old man tried to got the union in that he got a
    decent wage.
    It took over a year with GE pulling every criminal, dirty trick it
    could to bust our efforts.
    They even hired teamsters to come in and terrorize the families.
    I took more than a few licks on that one, not to mention me and my
    father having our cars bashed up on several occasions.
    I wouldn't pollute my piss on a GE product.
     
  6. Fred

    Fred Guest

    I hear you about that. Typical plantation-minded company best I can tell.

    One good thing about them.... they bought one of our major competitors a
    couple of years ago. Now our company spends over half the time fixing their
    products in the field and the other time replacing them!!
     
  7. James Sweet

    James Sweet Guest


    GE used to make really top notch stuff, sometime back in the 70's though
    they started getting cheaper and at some point they passed a point of no
    return. Today for the most part, GE is junk, the once renowned name is
    forever tarnished.
     
  8. NSM

    NSM Guest

    | GE used to make really top notch stuff, sometime back in the 70's though
    | they started getting cheaper and at some point they passed a point of no
    | return. Today for the most part, GE is junk, the once renowned name is
    | forever tarnished.

    A lot of these old line names seem to be rented out to 'improve' crap these
    days! You can usually tell when you see them used on some totally 'wrong'
    product. "Bell and Howell Triple Head Shaver - As Seen On TV" comes to mind.
    Bell and Howell Shavers??? What happened to their projectors?

    N
     
  9. c.reifert

    c.reifert Guest

    Bell and Howell is the brand of parts systems that I repair in car
    dealerships. Same logo, so I know it's the same group. That scares me!!

    Will
     
  10. Bob

    Bob Guest

    Back in the '60s (and possibly earlier) GE was a innovator in production
    shortcuts. Since they also developed and manufactured electron tubes
    and plastics, they took advantage of it in their consumer product
    development. Their TVs were the first with polarized power cords,
    presumably to assure acceptable performance.
     
  11. GEO

    GEO Guest

    From chapter 5 of 'Perfectly Legal' by David Cay Johnston:

    'Jack Welch left GE in September 2001 after 41 years. His final
    salary and bonus totaled $16.7 million. He also left with stock
    options worth a quarter of a billion dollars and a pension that
    shareholders were told was worth more than $9 million a year.'

    This did not include the perks that were paid by GE, including a
    Boing 737 for his personal use (page 61).

    I guess that GE was doing fine for some.

    Geo
     
  12. Mad Mac

    Mad Mac Guest

    B&H were also in the military manufacturing business (Radar/Periscopes
    etc.)!
     
  13. NSM

    NSM Guest

    | From chapter 5 of 'Perfectly Legal' by David Cay Johnston:
    |
    | 'Jack Welch left GE in September 2001 after 41 years. His final
    | salary and bonus totaled $16.7 million. He also left with stock
    | options worth a quarter of a billion dollars and a pension that
    | shareholders were told was worth more than $9 million a year.'
    |
    | This did not include the perks that were paid by GE, including a
    | Boing 737 for his personal use (page 61).
    |
    | I guess that GE was doing fine for some.
    |
    | Geo

    See "America: What Went Wrong?" by James B Steele, Donald L. Barlett

    Reader's quote ===>> "America: What Went Wrong" is just as important and
    relevant today as it was when initially released. America's overall economic
    situation is much worse today than it was when this book was initially
    published. This book accurately forecasts the problems America has as it
    loses its manufacturing base and became a service-oriented society (Wal-Mart
    supposedly has 700 Chinese factories of its own). Now the multi-national's
    factories are fleeing Mexico in 2002 for the slave-like workers of China.
    Unsettling for sure, I challenge you to read this book and don't be
    surprised if you re-read parts of it as the late 1990s Clinton/Greenspan
    artificial economic bubble unwinds into a 1930s style worldwide economic
    depression.

    GW
     
  14. none

    none Guest

    Bell and Howell were into just about all types of manufacturing years
    ago.
    Especially the photographic industry.
    Gunsight cameras, belly cameras etc...
    Then there's all the actual general photgraphic cameras from still to
    mopic.( in the 60's they marketed the most popular work horse 35mm
    around under the pentax label. Spotmatic was it's name.)
    Then of course there's all the WWII era cameras they made for th
    military which were used right up to the late 70's.( their 16mm combat
    movie cameras the KM, KLM, KRM 70 series. I used them during my combat
    camera days.)
    They also made slide strip projectors as well as movie film
    projectors.
    They started out as principally a grinder of optical lenses and grew
    from there.
     
  15. none

    none Guest

    Yet when I worked for them as an electrician's assistant they often
    tried to cheat me out of my pay.(late paychecks, short paychecks
    etc...)
     
  16. GEO

    GEO Guest

    Thanks for the reference. I'll check if my local library has it.

    Geo
     
  17. Guest

    They make pumps for heating boilers too. They are the red pumps that
    circulate the water in the systems. I had my share of replacing these
    pumps when I worked for a plant as maintenance man.
     
  18. David Combs

    David Combs Guest


    Some patriots, these CEOs! Sell the nation down the
    tubes just to raise EPS.

    Lenin is supposed to have said something like this:

    Don't worry about the capitalists; they'll
    sell us the rope to hang them with.

    :-(

    David
     
  19. Fred

    Fred Guest

    Sounds like a familiar story - a company makes a name for itself in one
    area, then establishes a good distribution network. Then some wall street
    gobbler buys it for it's distribution network and used it to sell cheap junk
    and trinkets. Then they unload the shell of the company after they have
    sucked all the value out of it and run off their senior tech staff.
     
  20. Fred

    Fred Guest

    Also some of Pat Buchanan's books and Batra's "The Myth of Free Trade"
    address this problem directly. Old news though, if you followed the 3rd
    party candidates in the last 3 elections. They ain't all dummies.
     
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