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  1. Franklin

    Franklin Guest

    To broaden my basic knowledge and skills I'm looking for any info on (free)
    on-line PCB design training possibilities.

    Any info is welcome.

    Thanks in advance.

  2. jim dorey

    jim dorey Guest

    heard of books? they're the things made from pressed sheets of dead
    tree. try jan axelsons pcb book, it's decent(isbn 0830639519 paper,
    0830639500 hard), your local library probably has a copy.
  3. Franklin

    Franklin Guest

    Op Thu, 12 May 2005 12:00:07 +0100 schreef Richard Durrant:
    Thanks for the link. Very informative.

  4. Franklin

    Franklin Guest

    Op Thu, 12 May 2005 11:14:08 GMT schreef jim dorey:
    Of course I heard of books, but if I have a question or face a design
    problem, I want to be able to communicate with someone who may
    be able to help. Thanks for the given book info, but I see no need
    to be patronizing. I politely asked for info in this group after my
    google search did not come up with valuable information.

  5. jim dorey

    jim dorey Guest

    read a book, ask here if you can't figure something else. sorry, i've
    gotten a little rtfm syndrome, hanging round the slackware newsgroup too
    much. anyways, thinktink has a free sortacourse for pcb design and
    manufacture, it's good.
  6. Franklin

    Franklin Guest

    Op Thu, 12 May 2005 15:28:53 GMT schreef jim dorey:
    No hard feelings and thanks again for the provided link.
    Actually I want to learn proper PCB design to be used
    as a profession. That , I guess, takes more than just
    reading a book or picking up bits and pieces of theroy
    here and there. Learning to work with certain software
    is one, but becoming a good PCB designer is another.
    So, were do I get from here?

  7. jim dorey

    jim dorey Guest

    do not read the following, i'm rambling, and it's hurting my head, it
    likely will hurt yours, but if you're a masochist, go ahead. i've rambled
    cause i don't know what you're going to do, work for yourself or a company.

    for professional level work you'd need a lot of theory, and lots more
    practice, books help in two ways, they give theory, and they give
    contradiction, when contradiction is resolved you have learned much.
    designing pcb's takes more than just learning a pcb package, but it's a
    good start. you need to learn electrical theory, radio(as in antennas n
    stuff), conductor sizes, there's so much to learn. taking a few college
    courses, just for the knowledge, will get things rolling, but practice and
    much testing of finished boards is needed.
    i say that books are the best way to learn, can be e-books, or pdf's, but
    a course can only teach basics for any reasonable amount of money,
    practice does the rest. if you're willing to pay 20-30 grand to become a
    circuit board artist you can do it through courses, through books it'll
    take 10 times as long, but be nearly free.
    most circuits, the boards you will design would require only basic
    knowledge, like, an AF op-amp buffer, there's almost nothing critical in
    it. the only thing you'd need extensive knowledge for is high frequency
    circuits, dealing with radio frequencies and coupling between board layers
    would take much, but nothing dreadfully serious if you work for yourself.
    if you want to work for someone else(specially big companies) you'll have
    to take courses, you'll need a portfolio(which you'd get by working and
    learning at home for a while. if the place you go to uses a particular
    pcb suite you'll need to learn that suite, either with their teachers, or
    in a school, and you'd need to buy your own copy, even learning editions
    can be dreadfully expensive.
    what i say is to forget about expensive courses unless you want to become
    a worker drone. you want to work for yourself on local contracts you can
    do it from your home, with little more than basic knowledge that comes
    from books(even miserably old ones, history helps) and tidbits from asking
    questions online. course, if you're online you can consider the world
    local, and refuse the contracts you know you can't fill.
  8. Franklin

    Franklin Guest

    Op Fri, 13 May 2005 04:22:50 +0000, schreef jim dorey:

    Thank you for your honest reply which I value highly.
    My intention is to work from home on a free-lance basis.
    I have build and designed electronics (mainly audio) but just
    as a hobby. I have taken several electronics courses, analog
    as well as digital and have worked for years at the repair department
    of company selling bar-code reading devices. Currently unemployed
    and given the current situation it isn't likely to change soon.

    Worked with Eagle and now exploring Protel 99SE to get the hang
    of it and at the same time broadining my knowledge on PCB design.

  9. jim dorey

    jim dorey Guest

    well, you have surprising little to learn, once you understand how to make
    the pcb router work properly(usually let it work then fix minor errors)
    you'll be ready to go.
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