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Discussion in 'Hobby Electronics' started by Trevor Wilson, Apr 12, 2010.

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  1. Well, with all the grumbles about CFL failures, I felt I should announce
    that I experienced yet another CFL failure last night. That's a total of 2
    (TWO) failures whilst living at my present address (4 years) and a total of
    3 (THREE) CFL failures in the 8 (EIGHT) years I've been using them. Whilst
    living at my present address, I've swapped every possible lamp to CFL that I
    am able. Except for regular flouros, of course (lots of them in the
    workshop).

    Last night's failure was when I dropped a trouble light onto a rock and it
    pieced the tube, thus causing it's failure.

    So far, here's the list of failures:

    1) Cheap, shitty CFL, failed soon after fitting. I no longer purchase
    anything but Phillips branded lamps.
    2) Phillips lamp failed in the garage, when a possum sat on/grabbed the
    lamp.
    3) Phillips lamp failed when a rock caused damage to the tube.

    For the record:

    All my outdoor lighting is CFL (total of 7 lamps).
    All bathroom lighting is CFL (total of 3 lamps).
    Kitchen lighting is partially CFL (total of 3 lamps).
    TV room background lighting is CFL (total of 1, 7 Watt CFL).
    Three bedrooms are CFL lit (total of 5 CFLs).
    Garage has one CFL.

    Two CFLs were brought from my old address and are still providing excellent
    performance (as measured by my light meter), relative to the incandescents
    they replaced.

    Phillips CFLs rule!
     
  2. Did not know Phillips sells CFL. Philips however does for sure.

    petrus bitbyter
     
  3. F Murtz

    F Murtz Guest

    Why pick on him for that spelling and not the flouros?
     
  4. Phil Allison

    Phil Allison Guest

    "F Murtz"

    ** HUH ?????

    You thing Philips did not spell their own name right ??



    ...... Phil
     
  5. Ross Vumbaca

    Ross Vumbaca Guest

    Hi,

    On 13/04/2010 7:46, Trevor Wilson wrote:

    I just threw one out that failed prematurely. Waste of money for the
    price considering a bunch of cheap and nasty Mirabella CFLs I have, have
    lasted longer.

    Regards,

    Ross..
     
  6. Phil Allison

    Phil Allison Guest

    "kreed"

    Note also that WES now have some CFL's in their flyer at what seems to
    be pretty good prices. Anyone tried them yet ?


    ** Yep - got a couple of 22 watt spirals the same day their email
    arrived.

    Heaps of light output, no problems so far.

    $3.50 each is the kinda price I like !!!



    Many of the bulbs I have cut open and found that in almost all cases
    the failure is due to the tube itself, not the electronics.

    ** Confirmed here.


    When the CFL Electronics are connected to a similar wattage "straight"
    fluro they invariably work fine.


    ** Yep - the tube filaments are the first things to go usually.


    Noticed in Bunnings that you can now get 45w spiral CFL, It's one
    monster tube compared with the regular CFL's :)


    ** Got a couple of 32 watt " U-tube " CFLs from the local Chinese direct
    import shop about 6 months ago for the workshop.

    Phenomenal light output and no problems so far.



    ...... Phil
     
  7. F Murtz

    F Murtz Guest

    Not sure wot you mean, trev spelled philips wrongly which is hard to
    notice but the glaring mistake (flouro) was not commented upon, just
    seemed strange that some one saw fit to correct him for one and not the
    other.
     
  8. It's not about spelling. Both Philips and Phillips are existing companies.
    So I wonder if the latter (also) sells CFLs.

    petrus bitbyter
     
  9. Phil Allison

    Phil Allison Guest

    "Fuckwit Klutz"
    ** No it is not, you pathetic moron

    - since he did it 4 times !!!
    ----------------------------


    ** Was neither glaring nor repeated - you pathetic moron !!!


    ** How the meaningless meanderings of the autistic brain are eternally
    un-fathomable.

    Peeeeukkkkeeee............



    ..... Phil
     
  10. Martin

    Martin Guest

    How can you say that Philip's lamps are better? Most are Chinese and come
    out of the same plant with differant brand names on them. In my my opinion
    CFL's give a terrible output. I'll stick to incandesant
     
  11. Phil Allison

    Phil Allison Guest

    "Martin"
    ** TW will not say what Philips CFLs he uses or where he buys them.

    Certainly they are not the " Genie " or " Tornado" types which are sold
    everywhere and made in China.


    ** There are a few different plants involved and the electronics come from
    another set of factories.

    ** You have to pick the light colour you like - most people find "Warm
    White" to be very satisfactory for domestic use.

    ** So you use what, exactly ?

    Dozens of 12 volt halogen downlights ?

    They will all soon be removed from sale too.



    ..... Phil
     
  12. Phil Allison

    Phil Allison Guest

    "David Eather"

    ** Fraid it is worse than you think.

    That 400 volt greencap is wired across and incoming AC supply as a RF
    suppression measure.



    ..... Phil
     
  13. Mickel

    Mickel Guest

    For christ sake petrus, get a life. You know perfectly well which
    company he was talking about.

    Michael
     
  14. If I realy knew I would not have asked. I know Pillips to be an existing
    company and that Philips did not use it's own brand name in the states as it
    looked like too much like Phillips. I also know that Philips made a lot of
    other things but electronics in the past including metalware and lavatory
    gear. So I thought it to be unlikely but possible that a Phillips also makes
    and/or sells CFLs in your part of the world. Besides, I have no reason to
    mention another ones language errors. Not being a natural speaker my English
    is not perfect at all.

    petrus bitbyter
     
  15. Phil Allison

    Phil Allison Guest

    "petrus bitbyter"
    ** Accepting that you meant to write " Phillips" - please supply a link to
    this company.

    The only reference to a "Philips" company in the USA I can find is to "
    Phillips Screw Company" - makers of the Phillips screwdriver.

    ** Got any proof of that ?

    The only consumer electronics company in the USA that might have been
    confused with Philips is Philco.


    ..... Phil
     
  16. I know of the Philips - Phillips case in the states from the time I worked
    for Philips. That has been over ten years by now. I also know about the
    Phillips screwdrivers and assumed they were made by the US Phillips but did
    not investigate other activities of that Phillips - if any. But as Philips
    had - at the time - a lot of other activities but electronics, Phillips
    might do other activities but screws.

    As for that other Philips activities, they were mentioned at the time I
    started to work for Philips and I still remember the Philips brand on the
    downside of toilet seats for instance. Philips sold most or even all of that
    business to concentrate on lighting and consumer electronics but as I left
    Philips I'm not aware of details.

    petrus bitbyter
     
  17. Phil Allison

    Phil Allison Guest

    "petrus bitbyter"
    ** Shame you cannot prove one single word of it.


    ** You might be in big need of Phillips

    - since you obviously have so many screws loose.

    ** Wot a load of old BULLSHIT !!!!!!!!!!!

    Get a life - fuckwit.


    ..... Phil
     
  18. Philips certainly did manufacture and sell toilet seats, at least in
    the Netherlands. I recollect using the toilet in an older house there
    and seeing the Philips shield moulded into the underneath of the lid.

    They had plastic moulding factories to produce cabinets and components
    for their electronic equipment, its not surprising they also produced
    other items.
     
  19. There was a British bicycle manufacturer called Phillips, two 'll's.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillips_Cycles

    It's quite likely they used and/or marketed accessories with their
    brand on them.
     
  20. ChrisRiley

    ChrisRiley Guest

    Hello, Trevor!
    You wrote on Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:46:07 +1000:

    TW> Last night's failure was when I dropped a trouble light onto a rock and
    TW> it pieced the tube, thus causing it's failure.

    TW> So far, here's the list of failures:

    TW> 1) Cheap, shitty CFL, failed soon after fitting. I no longer purchase
    TW> anything but Phillips branded lamps.
    TW> 2) Phillips lamp failed in the garage, when a possum sat on/grabbed the
    TW> lamp.
    TW> 3) Phillips lamp failed when a rock caused damage to the tube.

    TW> For the record:

    TW> All my outdoor lighting is CFL (total of 7 lamps).
    TW> All bathroom lighting is CFL (total of 3 lamps).
    TW> Kitchen lighting is partially CFL (total of 3 lamps).
    TW> TV room background lighting is CFL (total of 1, 7 Watt CFL).
    TW> Three bedrooms are CFL lit (total of 5 CFLs).
    TW> Garage has one CFL.

    TW> Two CFLs were brought from my old address and are still providing
    TW> excellent performance (as measured by my light meter), relative to the
    TW> incandescents they replaced.

    TW> Phillips CFLs rule!

    My experience seems to reflect yours the pilips CF lamps outlast everything
    else, the cheepies aint so cheep when you consider their life span (kinda
    short) Cheers
    Spelling error inserted for benefit of spelling nazis
    With best regards, ChrisRiley. E-mail:
     
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