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Joerg

Jan 1, 1970
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Just curious: Looked at a few AD parts lately and there is no link to
get samples anymore. Always says "We're Sorry. There are no samples
available for part number you have requested".

Did they do away with that? No problem for my office since I can just
order at Digikey. But at clients that can mean delays because there one
must often order through a formal purchase request.
I just email the appropriate FAE and samples[*] magically show up.
Lunch included, quite often. ;-)

[*] Often as many as the PPoE used to buy for the life of some
products.

They don't like Jeorg because he blows up all the samples, then
brages about it on Usenet. :)

Ouch! ;-)


How does one brage? And who's Jeorg?
 
J

Joerg

Jan 1, 1970
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Jim said:
Jim said:
Spehro Pefhany wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 17:17:32 -0700, the renowned Joerg

I could send it to someone else's name. That would promise to be some
real fun when a tax auditor checks my records. All the red flags would
go up in his eyes.
I do this from time-to-time. There are absolutely no red flags.

You are in Canada, very different game. The recent topper: A couple has
given their usual tithes to church and the church issued the usual
year-end receipt. Because there was no explicit statement that only
"intangible religious services" were rendered in return the IRS
disallowed the whole (very large) deduction. AFAIR they also did not
allow a retroactive fix.
The IRS did not...

http://tinyurl.com/byua8et
It did deny, clearly says so in your link.

[...]

Trouble with English this morning ?:) The IRS _did_not_ allow a
retroactive fix.

That's exactly what I wrote above.
 
J

Joerg

Jan 1, 1970
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Jim said:
Jim said:
Jim Thompson wrote:
Spehro Pefhany wrote:
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 17:17:32 -0700, the renowned Joerg

I could send it to someone else's name. That would promise to be some
real fun when a tax auditor checks my records. All the red flags would
go up in his eyes.
I do this from time-to-time. There are absolutely no red flags.

You are in Canada, very different game. The recent topper: A couple has
given their usual tithes to church and the church issued the usual
year-end receipt. Because there was no explicit statement that only
"intangible religious services" were rendered in return the IRS
disallowed the whole (very large) deduction. AFAIR they also did not
allow a retroactive fix.
The IRS did not...

http://tinyurl.com/byua8et

It did deny, clearly says so in your link.

[...]
Trouble with English this morning ?:) The IRS _did_not_ allow a
retroactive fix.
That's exactly what I wrote above.

That's exactly what I said >:-}

:)
 
S

Spehro Pefhany

Jan 1, 1970
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You are in Canada, very different game.

My condolences on having to live with an outrageously complex system
that effectively prohibits drop shipping. ;-) So contractors must
personally deliver every sheet of drywall to the jobsite and
distributors can't have bulky items shipped directly from supplier
warehouses. No wonder the stock market is plummeting.
The recent topper: A couple has
given their usual tithes to church and the church issued the usual
year-end receipt. Because there was no explicit statement that only
"intangible religious services" were rendered in return the IRS
disallowed the whole (very large) deduction. AFAIR they also did not
allow a retroactive fix.

Pretty sad, if the reports tell the whole story. Those guys (IRS) have
too much power**. The church issued non-compliant forms (no volunteer
tax accountant?) and the couple didn't have that huge deduction
paperwork checked before filing their return. The church website
probably is hosting malware too. The post-fix appears to be
statute-barred. I suppose they should be happy the IRS is not going
after previous years or assessing everybody who was a major benefactor
of that church (or maybe they are). They lost
in tax court, so I suppose they can still pay the tax and take it to
District Court, but for $9K it's probably not worth it, unless someone
else is footing the legal bill.

** http://www.taxdefendant.com/themostunfairthingabouttaxlaw.htm

Tax money is their lifeblood and they're very, very serious about
collecting it, especially if it can be done with little effort (cost)
to themselves.

"...only a matter of time before someone tries to sue their church if
the IRS denies them a deduction because their receipt was
noncompliant"

https://www.startchurch.com/blog/view/name/irs-tells-couple-tithes-to-church-not-tax-deductible

And then it's plumbing materials to a large electronics business ->
auditor raises eyebrow -> poof -> denied.

Now that's just silly, but if your auditor is looking every $200
non-capital item, you've got umm.. problems already. Mabe a
disgruntled employee gave them a false tip, or there is some mistaken
identity.
Out here it all has to be quadruple-well documented and if they do not
like one wee item such as a "wrong" name for shippimng destination you
might be out a lot of money. I prefer not to risk that.

To me, it's just a sale. I buy something, actually take legal title to
the goods once it gets picked up by Fedex, and it's delivered to the
customer who then gets invoiced for it. No big deal.

But if you're not set up for dealing with sale of tangible goods, I
can see as it might be an unwelcome increase in complexity and some
other kinds of potential risk.
 
S

Spehro Pefhany

Jan 1, 1970
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Joerg is too cheap to have his Gulibilty meter repaired.

You can get E-meters on eBay.. I think they can measure gullibility.
 
J

Joerg

Jan 1, 1970
0
Spehro said:
My condolences on having to live with an outrageously complex system
that effectively prohibits drop shipping. ;-) So contractors must
personally deliver every sheet of drywall to the jobsite and
distributors can't have bulky items shipped directly from supplier
warehouses. No wonder the stock market is plummeting.

Nope. But one must be very careful with what is deemed "customary" and
the deeming party is not your friend. As a consultant one must be very
careful with materials shipped to clients. It can easily happen, for
example, that the state tax folks pounce because they assume a trade
business. That gets the all salivating. I've been on the beat long
enough to know what can happen (and has).

Pretty sad, if the reports tell the whole story. Those guys (IRS) have
too much power**. The church issued non-compliant forms (no volunteer
tax accountant?) and the couple didn't have that huge deduction
paperwork checked before filing their return. The church website
probably is hosting malware too. The post-fix appears to be
statute-barred. I suppose they should be happy the IRS is not going
after previous years or assessing everybody who was a major benefactor
of that church (or maybe they are). They lost
in tax court, so I suppose they can still pay the tax and take it to
District Court, but for $9K it's probably not worth it, unless someone
else is footing the legal bill.

** http://www.taxdefendant.com/themostunfairthingabouttaxlaw.htm

Tax money is their lifeblood and they're very, very serious about
collecting it, especially if it can be done with little effort (cost)
to themselves.

That is why I am of the opinion that it is enough. I don't care what
liberals think because most of them don't pay taxes to begin with.

"...only a matter of time before someone tries to sue their church if
the IRS denies them a deduction because their receipt was
noncompliant"

https://www.startchurch.com/blog/view/name/irs-tells-couple-tithes-to-church-not-tax-deductible



Now that's just silly, but if your auditor is looking every $200
non-capital item, you've got umm.. problems already. Mabe a
disgruntled employee gave them a false tip, or there is some mistaken
identity.


All it takes is a tax auditor who is grumpy. I do not wish to take that
chance.

To me, it's just a sale. I buy something, actually take legal title to
the goods once it gets picked up by Fedex, and it's delivered to the
customer who then gets invoiced for it. No big deal.

Don't do that in Californica :)

But if you're not set up for dealing with sale of tangible goods, I
can see as it might be an unwelcome increase in complexity and some
other kinds of potential risk.

Yup. And I absolutely do not want to be in that position. I've had to do
sales tax returns for three years just because of a whim of those in
power. Wot a waste.
 
[email protected] wrote:
Just curious: Looked at a few AD parts lately and there is no link to
get samples anymore. Always says "We're Sorry. There are no samples
available for part number you have requested".

Did they do away with that? No problem for my office since I can just
order at Digikey. But at clients that can mean delays because there one
must often order through a formal purchase request.
I just email the appropriate FAE and samples[*] magically show up.
Lunch included, quite often. ;-)

[*] Often as many as the PPoE used to buy for the life of some
products.

They don't like Jeorg because he blows up all the samples, then
brages about it on Usenet. :)

Ouch! ;-)


How does one brage? And who's Jeorg?

Rush into a room unannounced? A pedantic fumble-fingers?
 
J

josephkk

Jan 1, 1970
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The IRS did not...

http://tinyurl.com/byua8et

Just part of the Obama administration's efforts to destroy the
Judeo-Christian roots of the US and replace them with Islamic
regulations.
Their first mistake was going to so called "tax court" division of the
IRS. They should have gone to federal superior court directly, and may
still have the option of doing so. Of course the battle will be much
harder now.

?-)
 
J

josephkk

Jan 1, 1970
0
[*] Often as many as the PPoE used to buy for the life of some
products.

They don't like Jeorg because he blows up all the samples, then
brages about it on Usenet. :)

Ouch! ;-)


How does one brage? And who's Jeorg?

Rush into a room unannounced? A pedantic fumble-fingers?

Brage, v: to make the sound of things exploding.
Is that transitive or intransitive?

?-)
 
S

Spehro Pefhany

Jan 1, 1970
0
Their first mistake was going to so called "tax court" division of the
IRS. They should have gone to federal superior court directly, and may
still have the option of doing so. Of course the battle will be much
harder now.

?-)

After they cough up every bit of the assessed amount.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
 
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