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Discussion in 'Electronic Design' started by Joerg, Mar 12, 2013.

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  1. Joerg

    Joerg Guest

    Just curious: Looked at a few AD parts lately and there is no link to
    get samples anymore. Always says "We're Sorry. There are no samples
    available for part number you have requested".

    Did they do away with that? No problem for my office since I can just
    order at Digikey. But at clients that can mean delays because there one
    must often order through a formal purchase request.
  2. I have not had a problem in general, got one a few days ago. I seem to
    recall seeing there were sometimes not samples for some old parts, some
    very expensive parts, or things like DIP packages.

    But looking at any random part page should show lots of sample buttons.

    Oh, it seems to go through their "myAnalog" system, possibly you have
    something blocked, are not "registered" or some such thing?
  3. Joerg

    Joerg Guest

    I did register. But it could be, as John Larkin said, that they do not
    offer samples of their more fancy parts unless you are related to Warren
    Buffett. I was looking at AD8302 and AD603, for example.
  4. Joerg

    Joerg Guest

    Yeah, many companies still think in the medieval concept of accounts,
    can't understand that a lone consultant can make a 1/2 million revenue
    decision for or against them with the stroke of a drafting pen, or mouse.

    At clients this can be very annoying, especially with big ones that have
    a certain level of bureaucracy in the purchasing systems. Samples can
    bypass that completely and not being able to sample can easily add a week.
  5. Nico Coesel

    Nico Coesel Guest

    Which is why one of the first things I do in a company is become
    friends with someone in the purchase department. You need more than
    engineers on your team :)
  6. Peculiar, no samples available for those.

    RF parts.

    They must think if you make phones or base stations, you will have your
    own on-site ADI rep already. Or perhaps Bad People want them.

    Yet it appears to be no problem getting a $78 DAC, for example. Strange.
  7. Joerg

    Joerg Guest

  8. Joerg

    Joerg Guest

    Dangerous. When I did this with the marketing department at my first
    employer it resulted in ... well ... how should I say ... we are still
    married :)
  9. Jon Kirwan

    Jon Kirwan Guest

    I see. You can no longer be trusted anywhere near marketing
    departments. ;)

  10. Nico Coesel

    Nico Coesel Guest

    TI finally fixed my 'account' for ordering samples. Unfortunately for
    them they already lost the design at hand to LT.

    BTW you could order the devices yourself from a next-day-delivery
    company (like Farnell, Digikey? RS, etc) have them delivered to your
    client and bill them as material.
  11. Joerg

    Joerg Guest

    At big companies that doesn't really work. Big truck backs up to loading
    dock, 250 packages pour out the back, guy at the loading dock looks.
    "Joerg Who? Yo, Leroy, take this one back, ain't nobody by that name
    working here".

    I could send it to someone else's name. That would promise to be some
    real fun when a tax auditor checks my records. All the red flags would
    go up in his eyes.

    And even then it doesn't always work. Once I needed an Infineon part.
    Could only get a full reel at the distributor. Infineon didn't care,
    even after I told them to charge my credit card with whatever costs they
    incur. So their part got designed out. Old American wisdom: "If you
    don't take care of your customer, someone else will". And someone else
    did :)
  12. Guest

    I just email the appropriate FAE and samples[*] magically show up.
    Lunch included, quite often. ;-)

    [*] Often as many as the PPoE used to buy for the life of some
  13. Guest

    Are you running the NoJoerg plugin on your browser?
  14. Nico Coesel

    Nico Coesel Guest

    Usually unknown stuff gets trapped in the mail room. Getting to know
    those people is on my list as well.
    For a few dollars? Besides, the bill is in your company's name, only
    the delivery address is different. Ofcourse you have it send to your
    contact in the company or the secretary of the department.
    I think you can translate that into any language :)
  15. I do this from time-to-time. There are absolutely no red flags.

    The supplier invoice says this:-

    Supplier company: Industrial type company
    Invoice number: XXXX Date: XXX
    Ship to: Name at client industrial type company
    Billing address: My company
    (.. description of industrial type stuff.. )

    And, of course, the supplier invoice number/date and exact amount is
    referenced when charged on the client invoice. No big deal.

    The potential problem comes in if the client company requires an
    additional P.O. for such things (maybe over some amount), in which
    case it's usually easier for them to go buy it themselves (but not
    easy). Otherwise it could delay payment on the whole invoice if their
    accounting folks can't handle it expeditiously. That happens a maximum
    of one time, and preferably zero times.

    There's weird suspicious-looking stuff sometimes... like the brushes
    we bought from a beauty shop wholesaler.. but it's always double well
    documented in such cases, because it might be difficult to remember
    the purpose of a one-off small-value purchase a couple years hence.

    Best regards,
    Spehro Pefhany
  16. Guest

    Our purchasing is essentially filling out an online form. Stuff falls
    out of the sky a few days later. Occasionally there is a need to prod
    the process, but not often. To expedite, simply mark the "need by"
    date as the next date. The only problem is that they will *only* deal
    with companies that are on the "approved list". Buying anything else
    is easier when done out-of-pocket.

    At the other end, I have become friendly with the shipping/receiving
    people. I do a bit of shipping and it helps being on good terms with
    the shipping people when I have to get something out after the
    deadline (which is all too often).
  17. Guest

    You *earned* them. Of course a sane person wouldn't have designed
    them in. ;-) Since we were talking about ADI, I got 100 of the
    largest Sharcs from them a while back, along with a few trays of
    unreleased ADCs and DACs. ;-) I imagine it would be no problem to
    get a few hundred FPGAs, if I had a project that needed them (more
    like one that could justify the cost). It's all about what business
    you're in and what business they want to be in.
  18. Guest

    Ouch! ;-)
  19. qrk

    qrk Guest

    Talk to your AD rep. Ours has been very helpful over the past years.
  20. Joerg

    Joerg Guest

    You are in Canada, very different game. The recent topper: A couple has
    given their usual tithes to church and the church issued the usual
    year-end receipt. Because there was no explicit statement that only
    "intangible religious services" were rendered in return the IRS
    disallowed the whole (very large) deduction. AFAIR they also did not
    allow a retroactive fix.

    And then it's plumbing materials to a large electronics business ->
    auditor raises eyebrow -> poof -> denied.

    Out here it all has to be quadruple-well documented and if they do not
    like one wee item such as a "wrong" name for shippimng destination you
    might be out a lot of money. I prefer not to risk that.
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