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Amplifier for unknown loudspeakers?

TomOlsson

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Hello! I'm not sure where this should go, projects or homework or whatever else could fit,so I put it here.

I sort-of inherited a pair of old stereo-speakers originally belonging to a Denver MCA-50 unit from the late 90's (I believe) from my parents. Each unit has three drivers, with one being a "dedicated" tweeter (40mm dia, ish. ~1cm deep), as well as one 'sub' (80mm, ~1,5cm deep) and one mini-drive (20mm, ~0,5cm deep). Despite their age they all seem to work when given an adequate voltage.

However, there's a catch. I want to hook these into my external soundcard/mixer, which only has professional-level lineouts (+4dB) that require a high impedance load, in the area of 10-100k ohm.

I've included a sketch of the loudspeaker setup below. This is the info I have about the components
  • L1: 80mm, marked as dynamic 4 ohm, 3-5W
  • L2: 20mm, no marking
  • L3: 40mm, no marks.
  • C: 47uF, Umax=16V

I believe that these are intended to operate at 2W (all 5 models that came after ours had 2W outputs -- ours isn't marked) However, the L1 driver is marked as 3-5W. I've never worked with drivers before, so I've got no clue how to approach that. If anyone knows anything about these markings I'd be in eternal debt.

From this info (with a more certain wattage for the loudspeaker), is there any way to correctly estimate (incorrectly guess?) the 'black box' characteristics such that I can gain the output from the mixer to a good level?

My though on the amp is that I use two linked inverters, one to load the lineout properly, and then one to invert again and drive the speakers. I've done a sketch of what this might look like (EC2) -- the gain for the second amp is merely a guess, and probably wildly above what is needed. Would this be a working solution? Anything I should think of?
 

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TomOlsson

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I didn't know that there were IC's dedicated to sound amplification -- I've looked upon those now, and I'm a bit confused. The input voltage for the amp's I've learned to use at school are a +- x V, whereas these seem to expect a -0.3 to +- to VDD +0.3 volt range.

My input has 1.228 Vrms , so in order to fit this inside the operating range, I need at least Vdd equal to 1,738 (Vpk) *2, and a DC offset of 1,738. This means that when Vac = 0 the Vtotal = 1,738. I might also need to increase my Vdd upto the needed output voltage.

Am I understanding this correctly?
 

BobK

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No. Those are the absolute max inputs to avoid damaging the device. Let us know what device you are looking at. A link to the datasheet would be good.

The supply voltage generally depends on the output power desired, not the inputs.

Bob
 

BobK

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You can get complete boards for less than that. Try Ebay. It does not have to be exactly 2W. A higher wattage will not hurt anything as long as you do not turn it up too high.

Bob
 

BobK

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Yes, that is the kind of thing I was talking about.

Bob
 

TomOlsson

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Many thanks, I shall order one of those, and then it should simply be a case of soldering connectors etc.Hopefully I shall manage that on my own.

Again, thank you for the help.
 
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