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  1. amdx

    amdx Guest

    The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is blaming sequestration for its plan
    to furlough hundreds of workers at power plants across the country, but
    could end up canceling out any savings by paying out costly overtime to
    keep the electricity flowing.

    Read more: http://tinyurl.com/c26tb29

    Mikek
     
  2. Guest

    On Thursday, March 21, 2013 8:23:33 AM UTC-4, amdx wrote:

    Just another example of the un-American swine civilians working for the Army attempting to sabotage the Presidency and Congress. There are provisions for exempting employees in critical occupational positions. The Army does not want to figure out how to do it so they can create a crisis, and of course coincidently publicize it as much as possible to the gullible American public. Looks like some senior management need to be put on permanent furlough and replaced with people who know how to make it work.
     
  3. mike

    mike Guest

    40 years ago, the burden for a technical employee was 40% or so.
    Can't imagine it's any less today with all the new requirements,
    obamacare etc.

    So, you pay 40% extra for some lazy employee to sit on his ass 40
    hours a week...
    Or you pay 50% overtime of the salary part just for the overtime
    and keep people busy.

    Every situation is different, but it's not as simple as it looks
    on the surface.

    Having said that...I'm not sure I want a temporary employee with
    high turnover
    running my nuclear power plant.
     
  4. Guest

    Aren't those hydroelectric plants in the story? Does the Army Corps of Engineers operate a nuclear power plant? The Army Nuclear Reactor Program was terminated in 1977.
     
  5. Guest

    The story is about their plants on the Missouri and their rogue civil service trying to blackmail the administration with a manufactured crisis. They own and operate 75 power plants nationwide, all hydroelectric, they do not operate nuclear power plants or have anything to do with nuclear.
     
  6. Guest

    On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 15:42:34 -0700 (PDT),
    I was specifically referring to:

    "Having said that...I'm not sure I want a temporary employee with
    high turnover running my nuclear power plant."

    ....as I thought you were.
     
  7. Guest

    Okay, my point was the OP doesn't know what he's talking about because Army Corps of Engineers doesn't operate any nukes.
     
  8. Greegor

    Greegor Guest

    Cuting the front line services is an old and
    well known tactic that is a bit like holding
    people hostage.

    It's called the "close the washington monument" scam
    it's also known as the "firemen first" ploy.
     
  9. amdx

    amdx Guest

    Geez, I was writing to apologize for adding nuclear to my post when I
    looked again and see I didn't.
    So my point stands, "Don't make cuts that will create additional costs"

    Mikek
     
  10. Guest

    They can't spend money they don't have. No one really cares what most of these fictional government operations do one way or the other. The main thing is their department-wide budget is reduced by the sequestration amount.
     
  11. Robert Baer

    Robert Baer Guest

    ....BUT that is EXACTLY what large companies do - they make ranDUMB cuts
    to "save" money, and compound the error by hiring two college grads that
    need 2 years of training to get up to speed - instead of hiring one "old
    fart" that has 20-40 years of EXPERIENCE, because the wages of the kids
    is less than that of the "old fart".
     
  12. amdx

    amdx Guest

    Are you talking about the US government?
    Last I knew they spent 16 trillion they don't have.
    Mikek
     
  13. Guest

    16.7.
     
  14. Guest

    If an outside group sought to leverage a small sum to cause the
    maximum possible chaos, panic, and disruption of society--especially
    to identify, target, and paralyze transportation and vital services--
    to accomplish a political goal, what would we call that?
     
  15. Guest

    That has to do with Congressional budgets and NOT money appropriated for specific purposes throughout the government. The individual departments and agencies can't spend more money than allocated in their appropriation, and they can't spend the money on something different from which it was allocated.
     
  16. amdx

    amdx Guest

    A billion here a billion there, it's only hardworking taxpayers money,
    if we have any left when it comes time to pay it back.
    Mikek
     
  17. amdx

    amdx Guest

    Obamanism?
    Mikek
     
  18. Guest

    No, think about it. Fear, chaos, and disruption, for political
    ends...what do we call that?
     
  19. amdx

    amdx Guest

    I knew what you meant, just a little political comment. :)
    TerrObamarism ?
    Mikek
     
  20. rickman

    rickman Guest

    LOL! Yes, perhaps Obama should lay off his SS squad. I mean, they used
    to protect Hitler and he's been dead for some 70 years! The SS squad is
    likely getting a little old in the tooth as well...
     
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