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  1. overgeo

    overgeo Guest

    HI i'm designing an inverter, the characteristics are, DC bus voltage
    300V, Irms 30A, pwm frequency 100Hz, and a maximum junction temperature
    of 80ºC, I have used this igbt calculator
    http://www.powerdesigners.com/InfoWeb/calculators/IGBTCalc/igbt_calc.shtm
    and i get 160 Watts of power losses and a resistance for the disipator
    of 0.117 ºC/w, are these results more o less correct?, i have chosen
    this igbt IRG4PSC71UD, in the datasheet says that maximum power
    dissipation at Tc = 100ºC is 140W, the igbt will be able to dissipate
    my power losses?

    I have looked for disipators but i haven't seen disipators with this
    thermal resistance so the solution i'm gonna use is a disipator with
    air cooling, and i would like to know how is the diminution of the
    thermal resistance of a disipator using air cooling?, and finally if
    someone has some suggestions about the use of air cooling please tell
    me, thanks in advance, and sorry if my english sounds a little bad, i'm
    spanish.
     
  2. Guest

    Have a look at the Farnell catalogue or the Martson web-site

    http://www.hsmarston.co.uk/heatsinkselector.htm

    Farnell carry a couple of Marston heatsinks that can offer around
    0.1C/W thermal resistances to ambient when coupled to a 120mm fan.

    It is difficult to mount a single dissipating device on such a heat
    sink without having as much thermal resistance from the device to the
    heatsik as you get from heatsink to ambient - carbon fibre cloth is
    good, but it is also electrically conductive.
     
  3. Nico Coesel

    Nico Coesel Guest

    No, that power rating is based on a die kept at 25 degrees with a
    magic cooler (read 'magic' as: it doesn't exist in the real world). It
    is a number to use in calculations.

    Another thing to worry about is thermal dynamics since you are working
    with pulsed signals. Try to read some about it, you'll see the amount
    of power a device can dissipate is much less than its rated capacity.
     
  4. overgeo

    overgeo Guest

    ha escrito:
    Hi thanks for your answer, i will use a disipator of that page or
    something similar that i'll find in my country. I will keep in mind
    that the resistance device heatsink will be as bigger as the heatsink
    ambient, thanks.


    Nico Coesel ha escrito:
    Hi thanks for your answer, i have been look for info about power
    dissipation
    (http://www.ixysrf.com/pdf/switch_mode/appnotes/1aprtheta_power_dissipation..pdf)
    and you're right the specifications are not very real, but i didn't
    found anything related with power dissipations and pulsed signals the
    only thing that i found was the thermal response.

    The solution to this problem that i have thought is to change the igbt
    or paralelling, i think the easiest is to change the igbt, i was
    looking to the products of international rectifier, and the IGBT with
    the biggest dissipation is this IRGPS60B120KD, the datasheet says that
    Pd at 25º is 600W and at 100ºC 240W, do you think that this will be
    suitable for my case?. In addition i have seen the modules
    (SKM75GB123), but i will like prefer to use a discrete igbt, thanks
    again for your help.
     
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