Advantages of Parallel Hz

[[email protected]]

This PC is built in such a way that it freshly generates the correct
electric signals ["on the fly"] instead of playing them back from its
ROM chips.

There are sets of instructions stored in ROMs. In the case of most PC,
these instructions load before the CPU "knows" it has a hard drive or
other peripheral devices. However, in my dream PC, those instructions
be generated in real-time instead of storing them.

To put it simply, what I am describing is a PC that does not need to
store any information because all of the signal codings for the info
is generated in real-time.

Generated from what? Pixie dust?

Please explain *in detail* how the first three such instructions
are generated.

 

[MooseFET]

LOL!

maybe that'd be possible ifthe computer only did reversible operations,
but a computer like that is either useless or trivial.

What you propose is like trying to run a printer in reverse to recycle
paper.

Darn! Before I even got the patent written, someone else thinks of
it.

 

[MooseFET]

The funny part is when basic concepts ARE already possible
today, anyone with a thick enough wallet can build a system
without fans or mechanical hard drives.

My ZX-81 had neither and booted way faster than any Windoze machine
does.

These days, a few gig of FLASH is well with the budget. A µPD448012
RAM or two would give enough memory to run reasonable applications.
Today, a "PC" could be made that needed no fan or disks and was low
cost. It could do everything most users need a PC to do. It could
come preinstalled with FreeCell, a Web browser, some email program and
an image of the blue screen of death. That last one is to ensure that
most users never realize that this isn't a full up PC running Windows.

 

[The little lost angel]

This PC is built in such a way that it freshly generates the correct
electric signals ["on the fly"] instead of playing them back from its
ROM chips.

And how does it know how to generate the correct signals?

It's built that way.

How does SB16's FM synth "know" how to generate its FM signals? Much
in the same way.

So in other words, your machine that does not store data will now have
to store data about instruments?

Well, the system could be made without bugs. Right?

Well, if you truly believe in that, then I would have to say you're
delusional

Moreover, upgrades are possible and stored in the RAM chips I
described above.

So again tihs PC that does not need to store any information has to
store upgrades information.

It does store info in the RAM chips.

But you said it doesn't need to store any information.

My point is, parallel-Hz and "parallel bits" are not to be confused
with each other.

Ok then what's the practical implication/advantage/whatever of what
you're proposing?

 

[Anthony Fremont]

Ok then what's the practical implication/advantage/whatever of what
you're proposing?

There is none. YHBT His posts are even blocked from appearing on
Supernews. They didn't used to be, that was until the flood anyway.
Hmmmmmmm........

 

[Radium]

Radium wrote:

This PC is built in such a way that it freshly generates the correct
electric signals ["on the fly"] instead of playing them back from its
ROM chips.

There are sets of instructions stored in ROMs. In the case of most PC,
these instructions load before the CPU "knows" it has a hard drive or
other peripheral devices. However, in my dream PC, those instructions
be generated in real-time instead of storing them.

To put it simply, what I am describing is a PC that does not need to
store any information because all of the signal codings for the info
is generated in real-time.

Generated from what? Pixie dust?

Please explain *in detail* how the first three such instructions
are generated.

Digital electrical generators. Similar to hardware digital tone
generators except it produces digital electric signals corresponding
to data other than tones. It's a hard-wired PC. Read the Wiki-quotes
and my responses to them.

quotes from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microcode :

"Each machine instruction (add, shift, move) was implemented directly
with circuitry. This provided fast performance, but as instruction
sets grew more complex, hard-wired instruction sets became more
difficult to design and debug."

I still prefer the "hard-wired instruction sets"

"a bug could often be fixed by replacing a portion of the microprogram
rather than by changes being made to hardware logic and wiring."

But I still prefer the "hardware logic and wiring".

 

[Radium]

On May 3, 11:20 am, [email protected] (The little
lost angel) wrote:

This PC is built in such a way that it freshly generates the correct
electric signals ["on the fly"] instead of playing them back from its
ROM chips.
And how does it know how to generate the correct signals?

It's built that way.
How does SB16's FM synth "know" how to generate its FM signals? Much
in the same way.

So in other words, your machine that does not store data will now have
to store data about instruments?
No.

Well, if you truly believe in that, then I would have to say you're
delusional

So again tihs PC that does not need to store any information has to
store upgrades information.

Yes, it stores info in the form of RAM. It does not need ROM, though.

However, my dream PC does have the ability to write/read ROM in the
form of optical discs [e.g. CDs/DVDs].

But you said it doesn't need to store any information.

Sorry. I meant to say, it does not store any ROM [except for optical
discs].

What would normally be stored in ROM, my PC generates in real-time.

The RAM chips store what would normally be stored in the magnetic
platters of an HDD.

Ok then what's the practical implication/advantage/whatever of what
you're proposing?

As I said before, parallel-Hz allows massively-serial devices to
operate at extremely high clock rates without needing any cooling
equipment.

 

[Bob Myers]

As I said before, parallel-Hz allows massively-serial devices to
operate at extremely high clock rates without needing any cooling
equipment.

Yes, you've SAID that before, but you have yet to give
any indication at all that it means anything. As usual,
you not only have no clue, you're running a significant
deficit....

Bob M.

 

[Radium]

Yes, you've SAID that before, but you have yet to give
any indication at all that it means anything.

How does it not mean anything?

 

[MooseFET]

How does it not mean anything?

Sniglet forb madious glurm hort blashim. Fertum digital madious three
phase therefor, the three phase clock massively paces any glurm hort.

 

[Bob Myers]

How does it not mean anything?

Just your usual talent at expressing yourself, I guess.

Bob M.

 

[Radium]

Just your usual talent at expressing yourself, I guess.

So you don't think it's important to keep circuits from overheating?

FYI, serial processors running extremely high clock rates without
cooling equipment, can easily fry. Either you need a cooling system or
parallel-Hz. I would like the latter since I want my PC to have the
least amount of moving parts.

 

[Bob Myers]

So you don't think it's important to keep circuits from overheating?

Sure it is. But you clearly don't have a clue about how
to do that.

I do realize that you're a troll - I would just like you to consider
becoming a more amusing one.

Bob M.

 

[Donald]

How does it not mean anything?

Why aren't you laughing all the way to the bank ??

You have nothing,

good bye

 

[Radium]

Sure it is. But you clearly don't have a clue about how
to do that.

Use parallel-Hz. Simple.

No offense but I would appreciate serious responses to my questions.
Please leave out the dark humor.

 

[Don Bowey]

Use parallel-Hz. Simple.

How do you plan to use the 1 Hz. Clock pulses? Just give us an example of
HOW you will use a few of the one pps clock lines to achieve anything useful
at a rate exceeding one pps.

No offense but I would appreciate serious responses to my questions.
Please leave out the dark humor.

You aren't a serious enough troll.

 

[MooseFET]

So you don't think it's important to keep circuits from overheating?

FYI, serial processors running extremely high clock rates without
cooling equipment, can easily fry. Either you need a cooling system or
parallel-Hz. I would like the latter since I want my PC to have the
least amount of moving parts.

FYI: 1 billion processors all losing 1mW is still 1KW ow power being
turned into heat. As you have already been told, the leakage current
alone will destroy your system. Your idea doesn't work.

 

[Radium]

FYI: 1 billion processors all losing 1mW is still 1KW ow power being
turned into heat. As you have already been told, the leakage current
alone will destroy your system.

Couldn't circuitry be designed in such a way that the leakage current
will travel in a path out of the system, instead of toward vital
circuits?

 

[kony]

So you don't think it's important to keep circuits from overheating?

It's not important to fixate on it like you need some change
instead of just learning how world+dog does it already.

You constantly demonstrate an inability to use current tech.
That is not a sign you have some advanced insight, it is a
sign you have a lot to work to do to merely become up to
speed with everyone else.

 

[martin griffith]

Hi:

Below is an example of "parallel Hz"

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/2427/clocksignalexample8is.gif

If each clock signal is 1 Hz, and you have a billion of them,

http://pag.csail.mit.edu/~adonovan/dilbert/show.php?day=9&month=11&year=1995


martin