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Hi,
I just moved into new house that had working ADT Focus 32 (DSC Power
832) system installed on it. I dont plan to subscribe to monitoring and
want to do local monitoring. Currently the display panel shows Trouble
light (I believe from previous owners telephone being disconnected). I
know the passcode for the system.

Can you guys please guide me how can I set this system to work locally.
If everything is already set up right, how i can i get rid of trouble
light because of telephone being disconnected.
 
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alarman

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi,
I just moved into new house that had working ADT Focus 32 (DSC Power
832) system installed on it. I dont plan to subscribe to monitoring and
want to do local monitoring.

Local monitoring? What's that??

js
 
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Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
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when the alarm system only dials phone numbers within the building?
around here we use the term "local monitoring" to mean a CS in the same
area, not out of state.
who knows what it means when a diy'er uses it?!

|
| | > Hi,
| > I just moved into new house that had working ADT Focus 32 (DSC Power
| > 832) system installed on it. I dont plan to subscribe to monitoring and
| > want to do local monitoring.
|
| Local monitoring? What's that??
|
| js
|
|
 
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tourman

Jan 1, 1970
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Sir, this is quite easy to do, however, you will need the installers
code to reprogram. By typing in at the keypad * then 8 then the
installer code, you will be in low level installer programming mode.
Assuming you do manage to get in, you will need the programming sheets
for your version of the panel to do anything at all ( there are
literally hundreds of settings inside that panel)

What you have to do then is turn the "TLM" off (telephone line
monitor). This is in section 015 and is disabled by turning the 7 light
"off". While in installer programming mode, turn off the dialers as
well ( turn off light 2 in section 380 ).

Your major stumbling block will be getting the installer code. Don't
count on ADT to help. And it's not likely the installer code used by
ADT locally to me would work in your panel either. You will probably
have to default the panel and hope the board isn't "locked" in
software. Then you will have to totally reprogram the board for
"local", non-monitored use.

As you may have gathered by now, these panels are not targeted by
manufacturers at the DIY market, and there is zero support at that
level too. Pretty much everything is stacked against the owner of the
alarm unless you want to use the services of a local installer / alarm
company. Although monitoring IS a vital part of your alarm system (and
something you really shouldn't skip), most of them will try to lock you
into a long term contract for monitoring services even when you fully
own the system ! This is very much a closed, self serving industry !! I
dislike it too; and it's unfortunate, but that's just the way it is !!

You might end up having to shop around for a company that will give you
a reasonable monitoring rate ($12 up to $20 monthly) without any sort
of long term committment, just to get your panel up and running. With
luck, you might find an installer just starting in the business who can
set it up for you the way you want for a straight fee.

Your other option, and a good one, is to simply go out on the internet
to the companies that cater to DIY's and buy a new board to replace the
old one. It will come with all the manuals and instructions you need,
and with a little practice, you should be able to set it up the way you
want. Once you sound like you know what you are doing to the point you
can ask more technical questions, the response to your questions on the
newsgroup will likely be a bit more helpful as well

R.H.Campbell
Home Security Metal Products
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
www.homemetal.com
 
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Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
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Hey, I just got a brand new pickup truck for free, all I gotta do is buy gas
from Chevy for the next 152 years...sweeeet deal!


|
| | > Hi,
| > I just moved into new house that had working ADT Focus 32 (DSC Power
| > 832) system installed on it. I dont plan to subscribe to monitoring and
| > want to do local monitoring. Currently the display panel shows Trouble
| > light (I believe from previous owners telephone being disconnected). I
| > know the passcode for the system.
| >
| > Can you guys please guide me how can I set this system to work locally.
| > If everything is already set up right, how i can i get rid of trouble
| > light because of telephone being disconnected.
| >
| Having a Non-monitored alarm is like having Dish Network without any
F-----G
| Channels programmed into the box... Hi Mr. SAT guy, can you install a dish
| on my home without a monthly fee... Sure, all of your neighbors will envy
| you, because they'll think you have pay tv...... :))
|
| AND THE BEAT GOES ON!!!!!!!!!
|
|
 
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Robert L Bass

Jan 1, 1970
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Having a Non-monitored alarm is like having
Dish Network without any F-----G Channels
programmed into the box...

That argument assumes that monitoring service will actually deter the thief or enable the homeowner to obtain police, fire or
medical response in a timely manner. In many instances that is indeed the case, but not always. Some rural homes are so far from
police patrols that might not help with burglary. Even in some densely populated cities, police response to alarm calls is so poor
that the value of the service is questionable.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>
 
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Petem

Jan 1, 1970
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Robert L Bass said:
That argument assumes that monitoring service will actually deter the
thief or enable the homeowner to obtain police, fire or medical response
in a timely manner. In many instances that is indeed the case, but not
always. Some rural homes are so far from police patrols that might not
help with burglary. Even in some densely populated cities, police
response to alarm calls is so poor that the value of the service is
questionable.

What is more questionable is your tendency to always try to make our trade
look bad or not useful....

why do you try to create a doubt in any normal customer of our trade about
the effectiveness of having an alarm system monitored?

I know the answer..its cause you cant make money out of monitoring,so you
deter people from it....but you can sell voice dialler,that you are good at
selling,and make a lot of profit out of it...
 
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JoeRaisin

Jan 1, 1970
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Robert said:
That argument assumes that monitoring service will actually deter the thief or enable the homeowner to obtain police, fire or
medical response in a timely manner. In many instances that is indeed the case, but not always. Some rural homes are so far from
police patrols that might not help with burglary. Even in some densely populated cities, police response to alarm calls is so poor
that the value of the service is questionable.

By the time the alarm wakes you up, you get out of the house, wake up a
neighbor nad get the use of their phone to call the fire department, a
monitored system would have them on the way.

Around here quite a few of our customers are seasonal folks who are
primarily interested in fire and freeze protection while they are away
but even year-round folks like the idea that when they are at work or on
vacation, should anything happen they will at least know right away and
the house won't be standing open until they get home.

Granted... the signs and stickers only work with the crooks who can read...
 
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Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
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SC said:


The programming software is going to do him a "world of good". Unless
he knows the ADT downloading access code there's no way he's going to be
able to connect to it. Chances are, ADT has locked out programming on
the panel. His best option is to reconnect the phone line. That will
turn off the line trouble and communicator fail light. ADT will contact
him to find out if he want's to continue being monitored. He'll say
"no" and they "should" download the system and remove/delete the account
info (which will effectively render the system "local").
 
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Bif

Jan 1, 1970
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Robert L Bass wrote:

That argument assumes that monitoring service will actually deter the thief or enable the homeowner to obtain police, fire or
medical response in a timely manner. In many instances that is indeed the case, but not always. Some rural homes are so far from
police patrols that might not help with burglary. Even in some densely populated cities, police response to alarm calls is so poor
that the value of the service is questionable.


BLASPHEME
 
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coord

Jan 1, 1970
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Robert L Bass said:
That argument assumes that monitoring service will actually deter the thief or enable the
homeowner to obtain police, fire or medical response in a timely manner. In many instances
that is indeed the case, but not always. Some rural homes are so far from police patrols that
might not help with burglary. Even in some densely populated cities, police response to alarm
calls is so poor that the value of the service is questionable.

Bass...you're a f******g moron. Why? Look at your statement above in response to "fire or
medical response"...are you really attempting to say that a monitored system for that is
"questionable"?

Granted...around here a "motion-living room" would go out as a "next available unit", but a
"panic" or "medical emergency" will go out as "immediate"...and as for fire...around here the
Fire Dept responds to that...I don't believe there are many PD patrols who have fire fighting
responsibilities.
 
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Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
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coord wrote:

Bass...you're a f******g moron. Why? Look at your statement above in response to "fire or
medical response"...are you really attempting to say that a monitored system for that is
"questionable"?

Granted...around here a "motion-living room" would go out as a "next available unit", but a
"panic" or "medical emergency" will go out as "immediate"...and as for fire...around here the
Fire Dept responds to that...I don't believe there are many PD patrols who have fire fighting
responsibilities.


I wouldn't get "your knickers in a knot" if I were you. When I first
read Robert's post, I had a similar reaction, but then I considered the
source and decided it didn't merit a response. Bass loves to "stir the
pot". It ensures he continues to receive flames in comp.home.automation
where he's considered a "valued contributor" which, in turn, allows him
to "promote" his "DIY Mantra". Those same flames also support another
illusion he likes to promote which is his on-going "battle" against "the
paranoid and evil" alarm companies and professional installers who lock
customers out of their own equipment and charge exorbitant rates for
service on simple security system installations. "After all, it's not
rocket science".
 
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SC

Jan 1, 1970
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Do you think there is a chance that the hardware reset will work?
Otherwise, the board could be "unlocked" for a small fee. I see shops that
will do it for $20. Google "DSC Power 832 " and find a world of help for
this panel.
SC
 
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Robert L Bass

Jan 1, 1970
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That argument assumes that monitoring service will actually
By the time the alarm wakes you up, you get out of the
house, wake up a neighbor nad get the use of their phone
to call the fire department, a monitored system would have
them on the way.

Please note that in my originasl reply I stated that in many instances monitoring is useful. Without question, if the alarm
includes fire, professional monitoring should be considered.
Around here quite a few of our customers are seasonal folks
who are primarily interested in fire and freeze protection
while they are away...

This is another case where monitoring can be a real benefit. Without it, a local alarm is of little use.
but even year-round folks like the idea that when they are at
work or on vacation, should anything happen they will at least
know right away and the house won't be standing open until
they get home.

It is possible to get information to the homeowner in a timely manner without monitoring. Voice/pager dialers and even Internet
connectivity are options with some systems. Professional monitoring is more likely to get the message out to the user but not every
end user feels that it's essential. It's a choice that only the end user can make.
Granted... the signs and stickers only work with the crooks
who can read...

Heh, heh, heh... :^)

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>
 
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Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
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SC said:
Do you think there is a chance that the hardware reset will work?
Nope.


Otherwise, the board could be "unlocked" for a small fee. I see shops that
will do it for $20. Google "DSC Power 832 " and find a world of help for
this panel.

I guess it doesn't matter that the customer will have to remove the
board and ship it to one of the unlocking agencies. He'll get it back
in about a month and then have to reprogram it from "scratch". His best
"option" is to do as I suggested.
 
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tourman

Jan 1, 1970
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In my opinion, it is highly unlikely that ADT would have locked the
board, unless perhaps it was installed by one of their sometimes shady
dealers. I do untold ADT takeovers, and I have yet to find one locked.
You have more than an even chance the board is not unlocked and will
reset using the factory default procedure.

However, if it is, simply box it up and send it to one of these
agencies. I unlock boards as a matter of course, and turn around time,
even on volume, is one day plus shipping time both directions...a week,
maybe two depending upon the mail system.

However, as I said before, new boards are inexpensive and come with all
the necessary manuals and programming sheets

R.H.Campbell
Home Security Metal Products
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
www.homemetal.com
 
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Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
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I've never found an ADT panel locked either.


| In my opinion, it is highly unlikely that ADT would have locked the
| board, unless perhaps it was installed by one of their sometimes shady
| dealers. I do untold ADT takeovers, and I have yet to find one locked.
| You have more than an even chance the board is not unlocked and will
| reset using the factory default procedure.
|
| However, if it is, simply box it up and send it to one of these
| agencies. I unlock boards as a matter of course, and turn around time,
| even on volume, is one day plus shipping time both directions...a week,
| maybe two depending upon the mail system.
|
| However, as I said before, new boards are inexpensive and come with all
| the necessary manuals and programming sheets
|
| R.H.Campbell
| Home Security Metal Products
| Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
| www.homemetal.com
|
| Frank Olson wrote:
| > SC wrote:
| > > Do you think there is a chance that the hardware reset will work?
| >
| > Nope.
| >
| >
| > > Otherwise, the board could be "unlocked" for a small fee. I see shops
that
| > > will do it for $20. Google "DSC Power 832 " and find a world of help
for
| > > this panel.
| >
| > I guess it doesn't matter that the customer will have to remove the
| > board and ship it to one of the unlocking agencies. He'll get it back
| > in about a month and then have to reprogram it from "scratch". His best
| > "option" is to do as I suggested.
|
 
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