Ademco Vector 3000 converting to Ademco Vista 128BP

[LostInSpace]

My current system is a Ademco Vector 3000 (#4153). This utilizes a polling
loop but it looks to me to be slightly different than the polling loop used
in the Vista 128BP. The 4153 has the pooling loop hooked up as follows:
The pooling loop wires labeled "out" are all hooked up to terminal 1 and 2
on the panel. The polling loop wires labeled "return" are all hooked to a
4152 add-on circuit board, which as I understand gave the pooling loop a
Class A designation. I do not see such an option on the new Vista 128BP for
something like a 4152 , so I am unsure where the return wires are to be
hooked up.

Is it possible to set up the Vista 128BP with a Class A designation? If so,
what do I need. If it is not possible where do I hook up the return wires
from the polling loop that labeled return?



Thanks for any suggestions.

 

[Frank Olson]

My current system is a Ademco Vector 3000 (#4153). This utilizes a polling
loop but it looks to me to be slightly different than the polling loop used
in the Vista 128BP. The 4153 has the pooling loop hooked up as follows:
The pooling loop wires labeled "out" are all hooked up to terminal 1 and 2
on the panel. The polling loop wires labeled "return" are all hooked to a
4152 add-on circuit board, which as I understand gave the pooling loop a
Class A designation. I do not see such an option on the new Vista 128BP for
something like a 4152 , so I am unsure where the return wires are to be
hooked up.

Is it possible to set up the Vista 128BP with a Class A designation? If so,
what do I need. If it is not possible where do I hook up the return wires
from the polling loop that labeled return?



Thanks for any suggestions.

All the polling loop devices for the Vector 3000 are compatible with the
Vista Series polling loop. Depending upon how the 4152LM is configured,
it can be used as either a Class "A" polling loop return or a separate
polling loop (it doesn't allow you to expand the system beyond the
maximum number of polling loop modules for your system). I recently
upgraded two Vector 3000's installed on the same job. I replaced it
with a Vista 128FB and just had to reprogram the duplicate 4190WH ID
numbers. "Piece of Cake" and the customer's really pleased with the
fact that the room numbers come up on a single new LCD screen (which
replaces the two LED keypads he had before).

 

[nick markowitz]

I have converted several over 2 no problems

All the polling loop devices for the Vector 3000 are compatible with the
Vista Series polling loop. Depending upon how the 4152LM is configured,
it can be used as either a Class "A" polling loop return or a separate
polling loop (it doesn't allow you to expand the system beyond the maximum
number of polling loop modules for your system). I recently upgraded two
Vector 3000's installed on the same job. I replaced it with a Vista 128FB
and just had to reprogram the duplicate 4190WH ID numbers. "Piece of
Cake" and the customer's really pleased with the fact that the room
numbers come up on a single new LCD screen (which replaces the two LED
keypads he had before).

 

[LostInSpace]

The question is since the Vista 128 series does not offer a 4152LM (which
in my case gave it a Class A designation) like the Vector 3000 did, where do
those return wires get hooked up?

Thanks

 

[Frank Olson]

The question is since the Vista 128 series does not offer a 4152LM (which
in my case gave it a Class A designation) like the Vector 3000 did, where do
those return wires get hooked up?

Cap the "return wires". You don't need them.

 

[LostInSpace]

Thanks for the reply. It sounds as though the Vista 128 lost the capability
for a Class A designation on the polling loop, since it can't power from
either side like the Vector 3000 could. I am surprised that
Ademco/Honeywell would not provide for that since all it took was a $25
add-on circuit board.

 

[Frank Olson]

Thanks for the reply. It sounds as though the Vista 128 lost the capability
for a Class A designation on the polling loop, since it can't power from
either side like the Vector 3000 could. I am surprised that
Ademco/Honeywell would not provide for that since all it took was a $25
add-on circuit board.

With the 128, if you want redundancy, you'll have to opt for multiple
polling loop expanders (4297) configured as individual isolated polling
loops as in the figure on page 3-14. You can't use this module with the
Vista 128FBP or the 250FBP.

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