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A Way to Use Bare Wire on a Toroid

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Joel Kolstad

Jan 1, 1970
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John Larkin said:
OMG, NASA wastes our tax dollars again. This is *radically* stupid.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was filed as one of those "employee
incentive" programs whereby the guy who thought it up got some small kickback
from NASA upon the patent's approval...

Maybe I could patent a Panavise as a unique means of holding a circuit board
during soldering so as to avoid having it shift around during work...
 
I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was filed as one of those "employee
incentive" programs whereby the guy who thought it up got some small kickback
from NASA upon the patent's approval...

Maybe I could patent a Panavise as a unique means of holding a circuit board
during soldering so as to avoid having it shift around during work...

I've patented degress 45,48 and 33. Feel free to use the rest, though.
 
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D from BC

Jan 1, 1970
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I've patented degress 45,48 and 33. Feel free to use the rest, though.


Oh come on..Patent 4975672 (keeps windings from touching) .it's not
that bad of an idea....

I see these benefits
* Neat looking windings for DIY inductors
* low capacitance
* high voltage
* uses cheap plentiful uninsulated bus wire or just any stripped wire.
(Everybody knows Digikey doesn't sell magnet wire...)
* can be made with cheap laser cutting

It's just funny that I've never seen it used anywhere nor thought of
making a wire guide.


D from BC
 
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Richard The Dreaded Libertarian

Jan 1, 1970
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OMG, NASA wastes our tax dollars again. This is *radically* stupid.

The problem isn't NASA, it's the "tax dollars".

Thanks,
Rich
 
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Martin Riddle

Jan 1, 1970
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John Larkin said:
OMG, NASA wastes our tax dollars again. This is *radically* stupid.

John

McLynm or whatever is the author of a few books on magnetics. Sort of
cookbookish.

Cheers
 
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SuperM@ssiveBlackHoleAtTheCenterOfTheMilkyWayGalax

Jan 1, 1970
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OMG, NASA wastes our tax dollars again. This is *radically* stupid.


Damn. You actually said soemthing radically funny. You should have
said *radially* stupid, however.
 
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SuperM@ssiveBlackHoleAtTheCenterOfTheMilkyWayGalax

Jan 1, 1970
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Oh come on..Patent 4975672 (keeps windings from touching) .it's not
that bad of an idea....

I see these benefits
* Neat looking windings for DIY inductors

There have been spreaders around for decades.
* low capacitance
Yep.

* high voltage

Be better if good ol fashioned high strength mag wire were used along
with whatever else got incorporated to increase breakdown resistance.
* uses cheap plentiful uninsulated bus wire or just any stripped wire.

That is the shittiest part of it. Much better quality wire is in the
channel and readily available.
(Everybody knows Digikey doesn't sell magnet wire...)

But MOUSER DOES!

http://www.mouser.com/search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=8075virtualkey56610000virtualkey566-8075
* can be made with cheap laser cutting

Can be made even cheaper than that with aramid paper and a pen knife.
It's just funny that I've never seen it used anywhere nor thought of
making a wire guide.

I have. Working in the modern PS industry for ten years allows one to
have seen a lot of different applications of the art.
 
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SuperM@ssiveBlackHoleAtTheCenterOfTheMilkyWayGalax

Jan 1, 1970
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The problem isn't NASA, it's the "tax dollars".

Thanks,
Rich
An idiot like you should have to pay MORE!
 
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SuperM@ssiveBlackHoleAtTheCenterOfTheMilkyWayGalax

Jan 1, 1970
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McLynm or whatever is the author of a few books on magnetics. Sort of
cookbookish.

The best way to cheaply insulate a small toroid is to wrap it with
transformer tape like the old tires used to be before winding onto it.
 
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Dr. Polemic

Jan 1, 1970
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On Tue, 01 May 2007 23:57:35 -0700,
The best way to cheaply insulate a small toroid is to wrap it with
transformer tape like the old tires used to be before winding onto it.

They used to wrap old tires with transformer tape?
 
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Robert Baer

Jan 1, 1970
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Martin said:
McLynm or whatever is the author of a few books on magnetics. Sort of
cookbookish.

Cheers
1) You are a little late to be harping; the date of the patent is 1990.
2) *NOTHING* in the claims states bare wire; in fact it eXplicity (ie:
X-rated) states *Litz* wire.
3) Learn how to read.
 
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SuperM@ssiveBlackHoleAtTheCenterOfTheMilkyWayGalax

Jan 1, 1970
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They used to wrap old tires with transformer tape?
The manner, not the media, fool! Not that I didn't know you pulled
that shit on purpose.

That'll teach me, huh!? :-]
 
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SuperM@ssiveBlackHoleAtTheCenterOfTheMilkyWayGalax

Jan 1, 1970
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1) You are a little late to be harping; the date of the patent is 1990.
2) *NOTHING* in the claims states bare wire; in fact it eXplicity (ie:
X-rated) states *Litz* wire.
3) Learn how to read.


Actually, it states "a single strand of litz" which is pretty funny.
 
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D from BC

Jan 1, 1970
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1) You are a little late to be harping; the date of the patent is 1990.
2) *NOTHING* in the claims states bare wire; in fact it eXplicity (ie:
X-rated) states *Litz* wire.
3) Learn how to read.

I didn't the read patent. :)
Patents often have that pseudo english patentese that I don't like
reading.
What?? No claim of using bare wire in the patent???. :)
I just looked at the diagram and used my imagination...
The wire guide really looks useful to keep windings from shorting out
with bare wire..
Litz wire makes sense for HF use.
D from BC
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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They used to wrap old tires with transformer tape?

Those steel belts tend to be lossy at higher frequencies.

John
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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1) You are a little late to be harping; the date of the patent is 1990.
2) *NOTHING* in the claims states bare wire; in fact it eXplicity (ie:
X-rated) states *Litz* wire.
3) Learn how to read.

Speaking of reading, try "NASA Tech Briefs." It's stunning the number
of insane/inane patents they generate at our expense.

John
 
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John Larkin

Jan 1, 1970
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On Tue, 01 May 2007 23:45:36 -0700,
Damn. You actually said soemthing radically funny. You should have
said *radially* stupid, however.

Your argument is circular.

John
 
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