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Discussion in 'Electronic Repair' started by Rahul, May 23, 2007.

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  1. Rahul

    Rahul Guest

    Hey Guys,

    I have this weird problem. My laptop's only OS (Windows 2k3) crashed.
    Now normally, I would have popped the Windows CD and recovered or
    reinstalled the OS. But my laptop's CD drive is not working. My laptop
    is a 3 year old Acer (AMD sempron 3000+, 512, 40GB, onboard SIS)
    Now I had a genius idea of removing the hard drive of this laptop and
    put it in my other laptop (with working CD drive) and install the OS
    there (Windows again), and then put the hard drive back in my old
    laptop. (The plan obviously didn't work as the OS attaches itself to
    the processor... i suppose) (and my other laptop is an intel)

    Now how can I install OS in laptop. (I have heard that we can install
    OS through network, but I am not sure if my laptop supports it),
    anyways, is there any OS which can be installed on the intel machine
    but will still work on my AMD laptop?

    (My C: is clean and formatted and I would install any OS on it if it
    later allows me to install Windows or Linux)

    Thanks in advance
     
  2. Meat Plow

    Meat Plow Guest

    If your BIOS supports USB boot devices use an external USB CD drive to
    install W2K
     
  3. bz

    bz Guest


    Your computer have a USB port? USB-CD drives are cheap.
    Maybe you can borrow one?

    Alternatively: Put a copy of dos on your HD. Put a copy of the I386
    directory from your windows XP installation CD on the hard drive.

    Alternative: Install knoppix on the hard drive. (knoppix is a linux that
    can be booted and run from a cd. It can also be installed on a hard drive
    from the CD. Get a free ISO of knoppix from their web site).

    1 GB thumb drives are cheap. Install a copy of the install cd on a thumb
    drive. Make the thumb drive bootable.

    Alternative: find a used laptop, same model, bad hard drive, or broken
    screen or ..., just as long as it has a good CD drive.

    Good luck.


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  4. me

    me Guest

    swap CD drives instead...
     
  5. Meat Plow

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    Little to no chance the optical drives would be interchangeable.
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  6. Clint Sharp

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    Actually, it's highly likely that they have the same interface on the
    drive mech itself, it's just that some laptop manufacturers fit them
    into a carrier that has a proprietary connector which is easy to swap
    onto another drive. If the drive is 'fixed' into the machine it's more
    likely to use the 'standard' connector. I think there are only two types
    of connector in use for small form optical drives.
     

  7. I've got a pile of dead laptop CDROM drives. After you remove the
    plastic trim that matches the laptop case, they are all alike. Its a
    standard component, look on Ebay for the OEM part number on the drive,
    not the laptop OEM part number. Its easiest to use one from the same
    series laptop, but there isn't much involved in converting them between
    machines.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/24X-CD-ROM-Drive-for-Gateway-Solo-5300-5350-Notebook_W0QQitemZ250107982878
    is an example of the Samsung Model: SN-124 drive I see in a lot of
    laptops, or get for salvage from other computer shops.


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  8. PeterD

    PeterD Guest

    100% chance they are interchangle: there's a standard for them.

    Real fix possibility: Put drive in other computer, and *copy* the CD
    to the drive. Put the drive back into the broken computer, boot a
    diskette, and install from the CD contents that you copied earlier.
     
  9. You could set up a pxe server and try to boot it over the network...
    but that would take a lot of time and effort.

    Here is an easier solution: You were partly right about putting the
    Hard disk in another machine and installing the OS there... but don't
    COMPLETELY install the OS. Just install the first pass where the
    installer copies the files to hard disk. Just before the first reboot,
    power off the machine and put the hard disk back into your laptop.
    Then the laptop will boot, enumerate the CPU serial number, and
    continue the installation.


    Thanks.


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  10. Your idea of installing the os on another computer could work. You have to
    install it and then go into "win2k3 dos" by booting the intel laptop cd rom
    from the windows cd and selecting system recovery console.

    It will ask for the admin password. If you didn't set one just leav it blank
    and hit enter.


    Then you need to go to c:\windows\system32\config
    type
    cd:\windows\system32\config
    (note: you may need to replace c:\windows with c:\winnt)

    Then you need to replace the files "system" "defalut"
    while in the C:\WINDOWS\system32\config>
    Type this
    copy c:\windows\repair\default
    It will ask Overwrite (Y/N) Press Y
    Then Type
    copy c:\windows\repair\system
    It will ask Overwrite (Y/N) Press Y

    Now Don't reboot the comptuer in your intel laptop! It is set up so that
    when it boots next windows will be looking for what hardware you have in
    your comptuer. So put the drive in your AMD and fire it up. It should take
    a while installing drivers for all the components in the system, and should
    work.

    - Mike
     
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