A Question about Toyota Prius

[[email protected]]

I am just wondering if any one tried this idea ......installing few small
jet shape wind trubine generator on top of roof.... so when the car is
driven over 10-15 MPH it generates electricity through those wind turbines
for battery charging, certainly it will increase the range. With an average
car speed like 30-40 MPH ..... and few turbine like this on top of the car
roof will generate easily over 100 Amps.

Any comments ?????????????

 

[Gordon Richmond]

I am just wondering if any one tried this idea ......installing few small

jet shape wind trubine generator on top of roof.... so when the car is
driven over 10-15 MPH it generates electricity through those wind turbines
for battery charging, certainly it will increase the range. With an average
car speed like 30-40 MPH ..... and few turbine like this on top of the car
roof will generate easily over 100 Amps.

Any comments ?????????????

Personally, I prefer the idea of installing a wind turbine on a rowboat, with the output
driving an electric fan, so as to permit the occupant to row faster without breaking into
a sweat.

Gordon Richmond

 

[Vaughn Simon]

Any comments ?????????????

In general, what do you think about trolls?

 

[Pooh Bear]

I am just wondering if any one tried this idea ......installing few small
jet shape wind trubine generator on top of roof.... so when the car is
driven over 10-15 MPH it generates electricity through those wind turbines
for battery charging, certainly it will increase the range. With an average
car speed like 30-40 MPH ..... and few turbine like this on top of the car
roof will generate easily over 100 Amps.

Any comments ?????????????

Yes.

You're an idiot.

Graham

 

[rebel]

I am just wondering if any one tried this idea ......installing few small

jet shape wind trubine generator on top of roof.... so when the car is
driven over 10-15 MPH it generates electricity through those wind turbines
for battery charging, certainly it will increase the range. With an average
car speed like 30-40 MPH ..... and few turbine like this on top of the car
roof will generate easily over 100 Amps.

Any comments ?????????????

Personally, I prefer the idea of installing a wind turbine on a rowboat,
with the output
driving an electric fan, so as to permit the occupant to row faster without
breaking into
a sweat.

Gordon Richmond
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Yep it is the something for nothing idea, it just does not happen, this is
why regeneration from braking is good it is recovering energy from the
momentum of the vehicle.
Any drag has to be paid for, a turbine would be a drag.

 

[[email protected]]

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Yep it is the something for nothing idea, it just does not happen, this is
why regeneration from braking is good it is recovering energy from the
momentum of the vehicle.
Any drag has to be paid for, a turbine would be a drag.

Yea but that drag will not puncture the pocket....lol... loosing few miles
speed vs increase of range?

 

[[email protected]]

Yes.

You're an idiot.

Graham

Honestly I think ppls like you are a fucking assholes .... ..... who knows
nothing but sitting on their lazy asses and shooting their mouth thinking
its their fucking right to write for each post in this news group.

I don't need your stupid comments so **** yourself some place else or go
**** that hole where you came from .

 

[Pooh Bear]

Yea but that drag will not puncture the pocket....lol... loosing few miles
speed vs increase of range?

You're an idiot.

I assume it's just a troll which means you're just a nuisance idiot rather than
a dangerously unhinged one ?

Graham

 

[Pooh Bear]

Honestly I think ppls like you are a fucking assholes .... ..... who knows
nothing but sitting on their lazy asses and shooting their mouth thinking
its their fucking right to write for each post in this news group.

I don't need your stupid comments so **** yourself some place else or go
**** that hole where you came from .

Let me explain better. You're a complete and utter idiot.

Graham

 

[[email protected]]

Let me explain better. You're a complete and utter idiot.

Graham

And I repeat again......... You are a FUCKIN ASSSSSSHOLE

 

[[email protected]]

You're an idiot.

I assume it's just a troll which means you're just a nuisance idiot
rather than
a dangerously unhinged one ?

Graham

With your kinda fuckhead brain I don't expect any thing constructive
so...... beat it man

 

[Pooh Bear]

And I repeat again......... You are a FUCKIN ASSSSSSHOLE

On balance I'd rather be one of those than a mental defective like yourself.

Graham

 

[Pooh Bear]

Amen, bro. Please read my response, which is an attempt to inform you, and
feel free to ask questions about it.

If you read his other posts you can see he has no interest in learning or
possibly any ability to learn.

Typical idiot kid let loose with a PC. See his nick for example.

Graham

 

[[email protected]]

On balance I'd rather be one of those than a mental defective like
yourself.

Graham

lol.........Peoples like you (ASSHOLES) called idiot to Newton and other
great scientist but then what happened every one knows.

So you better stay that way as an ASSHOLEEEEEEEE

 

[Pooh Bear]

lol.........Peoples like you called idiot to Newton and other
great scientist but then what happened every one knows.

I see you can't even string a sentence together using proper grammar either.

Graham

 

[[email protected]]

I see you can't even string a sentence together using proper grammar
either.

Graham

A fucking retard like you may be worried more about grammar ...... What it
has to do with intelligence and ideas ?

I haven't seen a single post from you in past with any brilliant idea except
farting on ya computer and criticizing peoples here......

News group are for positive discussions, exchanging ideas and constructive
comments ....... if you don't like others ideas then shut up and stay in ya
fucking hole. No need to post a response in that thread, but with negative
and degrading comments shows us your fuckhead mentality. And like I said
earlier you are a certified ASSHOLEEEEE.

 

[Pooh Bear]

News group are for positive discussions, exchanging ideas and constructive
comments .......

And you seem to find that an excuse for playing the crazy loony. Ideas that are
plain barking mad don't enter the above category.

Isn't it obvious that your daft 'wind turbine' idea will produce more energy
sapping drag than the energy it might produce ?

So, if you think it's a brilliant idea to add cost and complexity ( not to
mention a ludicrous appearance ) in order to reduce overall performance then I'm
sure you deserve a round of applause.

Graham

 

[[email protected]]

And you seem to find that an excuse for playing the crazy loony. Ideas
that are
plain barking mad don't enter the above category.

I just presented an idea and asking others if any one looked into this
..............and it is the ideas that is the mother of all inventions. But a
fool like you will never understand it except farting around and barking on
others idea

Isn't it obvious that your daft 'wind turbine' idea will produce more
energy
sapping drag than the energy it might produce ?

Wrong again. ..... use ya thick brain if you have any .......drag is
already there. Isn't most of the vehicles designed in a way with front
opening to force the air into the radiator ? do you think that opening is
true aerodynamic ? and has no drag ? and effect on vehicales fuel efficiency
? I am sure every one here agrees if we compare a true aerodynamic front
shape vehicales that will give us more milage per gallons vs the one we see
with air intake design. We already compromised few miles efficiency on the
cost of engine cooling cauz the gas is cheap but if you look at the newer
design of the vehicales , they are getting more close to true aerodynamic
shape. My argument here is not to discuss the aerodynamic shape what I am
simply suggesting is the force of air as a bi-product generated by the
movement of vehicale....how to utilise that energy into power ? a simple
thing comes in mind..... wind turbine. ...... can be designed in a way that
the SAME air forced into radiator can be forced again into turbine and in
turn turbine generates extra power to charge the batteries. So what rocket
science or complexity you see here ? Its a simple designe and can be
acheived. I don't see any additional drag on the vehicale. May be it added
another 10-20 lbs as turbine weight but on the other hand we can reduce the
number of batteries carryin on board cauz of additional power generation
capacity in the vehicale. A simple example is turbo charged engine, Its
turbine again that produces extra horse power in engine ?

So, if you think it's a brilliant idea to add cost and complexity ( not to
mention a ludicrous appearance ) in order to reduce overall performance
then I'm
sure you deserve a round of applause.

Grahamou

Yes I do deserve a round of applause cauz atleast I come up with some ideas
...... tell me what ideas you got except fating in this newsgroup ?

You disconnect my idea considering an idiot thought without goin deeper cauz
you think you are the fucking authority whereas I think you are a rusty fat
ass fool who needs retirement from this New Group. We need some fresh blood
and brains here.

Still if you think I am wrong then come on prove it .......

 

[Pooh Bear]

I just presented an idea and asking others if any one looked into this
.............and it is the ideas that is the mother of all inventions. But a
fool like you will never understand it except farting around and barking on
others idea

That might actually have something to do with both knowledge and experience !

The idea you presented is the kind of sad 'kiddy thinking' that abounds from
ill-educated losers on Usenet.

Graham

 

[Pooh Bear]

Wrong again. ..... use ya thick brain if you have any .......drag is
already there.

Actually, a car's body is designed to minimise drag. This is especially
important with electric or hybrid vehicles since the power output is lower than
most normal cars and they need to make the most of it.

Any interference with the bodywork will *hugely* increase drag by interfering
with the smooth airflow.

Isn't most of the vehicles designed in a way with front opening to force the
air into the radiator ?
No.

do you think that opening is true aerodynamic ? and has no drag ? and effect
on vehicales fuel efficiency

Electric cars don't even need one of course but the rest are actually quite
intentionally designed not to be draggy I can assure you.

The P51 Mustang even had an external radiator that was believed to increase
'thrust' ( by heating the air exiting it ) .

? I am sure every one here agrees if we compare a true aerodynamic front
shape vehicales that will give us more milage per gallons vs the one we see
with air intake design.

This thread was about the Prius. Have you looked at a picture of it ?

We already compromised few miles efficiency on the
cost of engine cooling cauz the gas is cheap but if you look at the newer
design of the vehicales , they are getting more close to true aerodynamic
shape.

And have been increasingly doing so for decades.

My argument here is not to discuss the aerodynamic shape what I am
simply suggesting is the force of air as a bi-product generated by the
movement of vehicale....how to utilise that energy into power ? a simple
thing comes in mind..... wind turbine. ...... can be designed in a way that
the SAME air forced into radiator can be forced again into turbine and in
turn turbine generates extra power to charge the batteries. So what rocket
science or complexity you see here ?

It's not rocket science indeed but you seem to have a simplistic
misunderstanding.

Its a simple designe and can be acheived. I don't see any additional drag on
the vehicale.

I reckon you're on your own there.

May be it added
another 10-20 lbs as turbine weight but on the other hand we can reduce the
number of batteries carryin on board cauz of additional power generation

I think you need to revise your estimates there too !

capacity in the vehicale. A simple example is turbo charged engine, Its
turbine again that produces extra horse power in engine ?

It's the increased mass of fuel air mixture that does it. The turbo is simply a
means to an end. The turbine itself actually presents a small parasitic (
wasteful ) load to the engine. Supercharging works well too without using a
turbine in the exhaust but instead presents a load to the crank.

Graham