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Discussion in 'Electronic Design' started by Johnson L, Mar 26, 2009.

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  1. Johnson L

    Johnson L Guest

    I have an idea to develop a small embedded electronic device for a specific
    application. I would also like to apply for a patent. Do I need to provide a
    fully functional prototype for the patent application? Or a proof of concept
    model is OK for this case?

    Thank you.

    Johnson
     
  2. krw

    krw Guest

    Unless it's a perpetual motion machine, neither. Your application has
    to only show "operability". Basically, it can't be obvious that
    you're violating any fundamental law of the universe. ;=)
     
  3. Why?
    It's almost certainly going to result in a waste of money and time.
    You don't need anything physical for a patent application, just lots of
    money to pay someone to write and file the application.

    You'd be very wise to look at these tutorials first before you waste your
    money:
    http://www.tinaja.com/patnt01.asp

    Dave.
     
  4. Nobody

    Nobody Guest

    Or novel, or non-obvious.
     
  5. Martin Brown

    Martin Brown Guest

    The only question USPTO seems to ask is "are your dollars green?".

    But a patent is only worthwhile if you have deep enough pockets to
    defend it against infringement.

    Regards,
    Martin Brown
     
  6. Johnson L

    Johnson L Guest

    OK, very negative comments but might be the bitter fact.However, I got a
    question, what push a big company to buy a small company with so much money?
    For example, Google to buy YouTube. Why Google just hire a dozen engineers
    and make some "minor" changes to YouTube?

    Johnson
     
  7. They would be buying the brand and the user base. There are several
    areas where sufficient critical mass implies a monopoly that is hard
    to attack. Ebay, paypal, youtube, google, intel, microsoft...
     
  8. Guest

    Gee, anyone use MS Live search? ;-)

    Incidentally, patents are very valuable.....for trading in patent
    lawsuits. ;-)
     
  9. They are buying the name and the user base. It's got nothing to do with
    patents.
    Of course they can just put some programmers on it and come up with their
    own solution, but people are USED to using YouTube, that's why it's
    valuable.

    Put your money into producing a good product and staying one step ahead of
    any competitors. Patents will suck your money away and give you no advantage
    what-so-ever, and that's guaranteed.

    It's just like any company can tweak a few things and beat any patent you
    get, it's so easy and usually cheaper than buying you out. Your only option
    is to stay one step ahead of everyone else, and that's easy to do in these
    niche applications.

    Dave.
     
  10. Yes, it wouldn't be too hard for those keen enough to save money.
    A patent attorney's job is to turn your nice and clear description into
    complete gobledegoop that is technically accurate, but as un-reconstructable
    and un-readable as possible.
    In Australia it's only $70 or so to file an initial provisional claim, and
    then you get 1 years grace to get your product out the door and making money
    before having to decide if it's worthwhile to spend the extra dollars to go
    for the full patent application. IIRC that is in the range of AU$3K for
    Australia only, or AU$5K if you also want claims in the major countries.
    Less than pocket lint!

    Dave.
     
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