Connect with us

A couple of questions on accelerometer specs

Discussion in 'Sensors and Actuators' started by Braeden Hamson, Dec 3, 2018.

  1. Braeden Hamson

    Braeden Hamson

    193
    13
    Feb 18, 2016
    So I've joined my schools Formula SAE racing team. Pretty neat. They've stuck me on the task of building an impact data logger for their car's impact attenuator.

    The impact should not exceed 18G max. Taking into account the length of what is in essence a crumple zone, I've calculated the main impact to take place over the course of 1 ms. Or to put it another way 1 KHz.

    Here's the datasheet for the accelerometer they gave me.
    https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/data-sheet/MMA3201KEG.pdf

    On page 3 under output signal you can see "Bandwidth Response" is 400 Hz typical. Also of note I'm following their schematic on page 5, which includes an RC filter. (But that filter has a 15KHz cut off)

    I don't fully understand what bandwidth response means, in this sense.

    Lastly, since 0 G is 2.5 V and +20 G is 5V can I assume that the scale is 0.125V/G?
     
  2. Harald Kapp

    Harald Kapp Moderator Moderator

    8,694
    1,692
    Nov 17, 2011
    It also states f-3dB in the "symbol2 column which means that the signal from the sensor will roll off above 400 Hz with a 4th order low pass characteristic (see the description on the header of the datasheet). Basically this means you can get a useable signal for events with a frequency less than 400 Hz but you will see events with a frequency greater than 400 Hz only heavily attenuated.
    This filter is the anti-aliasing filter for the subsequent ADC. It also reduces clock noise, see note 4 on page 5.
    You cannot simply convert the duration of a single event (impact) into a frequency or vice versa. Precisely said a single event has not a single frequency or band of frequencies but an infinite amount of frequency components. That is not useful for your application.
    What you will get as output from the sensor is probably a pulse with more or less a square form as the car will decelerate during impact. This pulse probably will show a falling slope as the car decelerates slower and slower due to the impact energy being dissipated within the structure. The pulse will certainly be overlaid by lots of noise. I guess (really only a guess without scientific background) the pulse will be similar to this waveform:
    upload_2018-12-3_7-26-41.png
    Expect also some undershoot as the elasticity of the structure will let the car rebounce.

    Yes you can since the description states that the chip has a linear output.
     
    hevans1944 and BobK like this.
  3. moneytide

    moneytide

    5
    1
    Apr 20, 2014
    There was a Bloomberg article about a team that used similar data that you are going to harvest with your racing team impact measurements.



    They used the information you are gathering and put it with AI to 3D print the optimal frame
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Dec 5, 2018
    Braeden Hamson likes this.
  4. Braeden Hamson

    Braeden Hamson

    193
    13
    Feb 18, 2016
    Thank you very much. My professor gave us one commandment "thou shalt always read the notes." Still true I suppose. Your post will really help me fully digest this particular datasheet. And I think your graph is accurate. We tested the sensor with an oscilloscope (unfortunately we can export data so can't use it for data logging here) but when I hit the board just on the bench the resultant graph looked like yours. We could even see the stick-slip undulations in the graph from the broadboards rubber feet. Which was really cool.

    One more question. If you were doing these tests (bear in mind these tests are just so we know what we're in for when we take them to a real testing lab, preliminary testing I think you could call it) would you be happy with this sensor?
     
  5. Harald Kapp

    Harald Kapp Moderator Moderator

    8,694
    1,692
    Nov 17, 2011
    Yes, at least for a start. You may find out during use that one or the other parameter may not be the best for your application, but trial and error (at least a bit of) is part of the fun, isn't it?
     
    Braeden Hamson likes this.
  6. Braeden Hamson

    Braeden Hamson

    193
    13
    Feb 18, 2016
    Haha that's very true, thanks again
     
  7. davenn

    davenn Moderator

    13,000
    1,663
    Sep 5, 2009

    your youtube link isn't showing
     
  8. davenn

    davenn Moderator

    13,000
    1,663
    Sep 5, 2009
    Have deleted you last post .... was empty other than the quote of my previous comment


    you video was still not showing ...... try showing a url link as your embedding isn't working


    Dave
     
Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments (here). After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.