707 Roll.

[Karl Magnus]

Insert "inverted flight" flamez below:

 

[Bob]

Insert "inverted flight" flamez below:

Frank, is that you? RLB, you boob, proof that Frank was right, on you tube.

 

[Robert L Bass]

Insert "inverted flight" flamez below:

Frank, is that you? RLB, you boob, proof that Frank was right, on you tube.

The poster knows full well that the famous 707 roll has nothing to do with the fictitious maneuver in Olson's lie. No one has ever
snap rolled a 737 and lived to tell about it. Furthermore, Boeing has never loaned a 737 to some idiot lime Olson so he could "test
his theory" about an aviation accident. They don't load airliners to insurance companies for anything... ever. Several of my
customers happen to be Boeing engineers. I showed them Olson's original lies about this and to a man the response was the same --
he's FOS; it never happened. If you're dumb enough to believe that cock and bull story I can't help you.

 

[Bob]

The poster knows full well that the famous 707 roll

you said it COULDN'T be done. As usual you were wrong, it CAN be done.
The proof is on you tube, you boob.

 

[Norm Mugford]

Mr. BAss wrote:

"Several of my customers happen to be Boeing engineers.
I showed them Olson's original lies about this and to a man
the response was the same -- he's FOS; it never happened.
If you're dumb enough to believe that cock and bull story
I can't help you".

Hey BAss ....That's the same line you used when you explained
me to the state investigator that was at your door for unlicensed
activity two years ago......do you just copy and paste your remarks
like you do everything else on ASA?

You Lie!..You Lie!..You Lie...

Norm Mugford

The poster knows full well that the famous 707 roll has nothing to do with
the fictitious maneuver in Olson's lie. No one has ever snap rolled a 737
and lived to tell about it. Furthermore, Boeing has never loaned a 737 to
some idiot lime Olson so he could "test his theory" about an aviation
accident. They don't load airliners to insurance companies for
anything... ever. Several of my customers happen to be Boeing engineers.
I showed them Olson's original lies about this and to a man the response
was the same -- he's FOS; it never happened. If you're dumb enough to
believe that cock and bull story I can't help you.

I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html

 

[Frank Olson]

The poster knows full well that the famous 707 roll has nothing to do with the fictitious maneuver in Olson's lie.

Here we go again...

No one has ever
snap rolled a 737 and lived to tell about it.

I have pictures. "Firetek's" seen them.

Furthermore, Boeing has never loaned a 737 to some idiot lime Olson so he could "test
his theory" about an aviation accident.

You're right... Boeing "never loaned a 737 to some idiot lime Olson"...

They don't load airliners to insurance companies for anything... ever.

I beg to differ. They "loan" aircraft to many different agencies.

Several of my
customers happen to be Boeing engineers.

And not one has ever posted here. Your "arguments" are based on
"hearsay", supposition, and personal animus. You wouldn't know the
truth if someone hit you over the head with it.

I showed them Olson's original lies about this and to a man the response was the same --
he's FOS; it never happened.

And to a man, their responses are every bit as "fictitious" as your many
installation fairy tales.


If you're dumb enough to believe that cock and bull story I can't
help you.

I beg to differ... A USAir 737 experienced a sudden and unintentional
rudder deflection. The pilots recovered and were able to land safely.
I believe the "angle of bank" exceeded 60 degrees (which you have stated
many times as being unrecoverable in a large passenger airliner. You're
so FOS your eyes are brown...

 

[FIRETEK]

tube.

The poster knows full well that the famous 707 roll has nothing to do with

the fictitious maneuver in Olson's lie.

The problem here is mostly yours, Bass. You've been trying to discredit
Frank for years. In fact, anyone that doesn't "toe" your "line" winds up as
a "target" for your lies, innuendo, and malicious libel. You can't "prove"
Frank lied about anything he's ever posted here, but a number of individuals
here can certainly prove you've lied repeatedly.

No one has ever
snap rolled a 737 and lived to tell about it.

Frank has. Not only that, he's got the movie.

 

[Bob]

Robert L Bass wrote:

You're right... Boeing "never loaned a 737 to some idiot lime Olson"...

I thought you were a cannuck not a limey.

 

[Frank Olson]

I thought you were a cannuck not a limey.

Actually, I'm both an American "ex-patriot" and an "expatriate"
(according to "him whom is Bass").

 

[Robert L Bass]

you said it COULDN'T be done.

I said he couldn't *snap-roll* a 737 and survive. Plenty of other airplanes can be snap-rolled. My cousin did the maneuver while
we were in his Citabria many years ago.

However, the 707 maneuver is not a snap-roll. It's a barrel roll, which is a far gentler, expertly controlled maneuver. Never
having flown anything but folded paper, you wouldn't know about that.

 

[Robert L Bass]

No one has ever snap rolled a

I have pictures. "Firetek's" seen them.

You're full of jiminex. You never flew anything. You sure as hell never borrowed an airliner from Boeing.

 

[Robert L Bass]

The problem here is mostly yours, Bass...

Olson is the one who posted the lie.

You've been trying to discredit Frank
for years...

No need. He does that all by himself.

 

[FIRETEK]

The point is: Frank didn't lie and nothing you've posted to the contrary
provides difinitive proof he _ever_ did. Add the fact that I've actually
seen his movie (and the photos he took) and I can assure you the aircraft
inverted "rather quickly" (although I'm not expert enough to identify a
"snap" from a "barrel").

And now I suppose you'll be saying I lied too. No biggie. Being called "a
liar" by "a liar" sort of nullifies the whole issue anyway.

I do find it somewhat amusing that you criticized Frank for "not being man
enough to come clean" like Tom did (although you didn't quite use those
words, you certainly inferred it), but I don't see you making any such
attempt yourself. I figure Frank's right in his assessment. For you to
actually admit you lied about Graham to his employer, along with all the
other whoppers you've told, would provide "fodder" for your detractors for
years and certainly ruin your reputation. You're a very small man, Bass.
Your over-inflated ego simply won't allow you to see what the rest of us do
(that your reputation is already in shambles). Pity.

 

[FIRETEK]

Uh-huh... and the person at the controls of the C-185 in which we flew to
Victoria two weeks ago was wearing a "Frank" mask... Cool.

You're full of jiminex. You never flew anything. You sure as hell never

borrowed an airliner from Boeing.

 

[Robert L Bass]

The point is: Frank didn't lie and...

The point is Olson always lies. His tall tales of aerobatics are just icing on his maneur cake. His entire story is a lie. He's
not even an installer. He never held a pilot's license in the US or Canada. He never worked as a tech anywhere in BC. He's one of
the most accomplished jiminex-shooters I've ever known.

That wouldn't really bother me at all though. I couldn't care less if a few moron techs believe his crap. He went RW on me, called
several of my suppliers trying to interfere with my business. He pestered at least one and probably several manufacturers as well.
Most just laughed him off. ADI called and asked who the idiot from Canada is. DSC didn't even bother sending an email. The tried
to hurt my business.

And now I suppose you'll be saying
I lied too...

Mot necessarily. You might just be stupid enough to believe his nonsense. If you claim you've seen proof of his nonsensical
stories then yes, you're a liar -- possibly a sock puppet. I'm not entirely convinced yet whether you're a liar or just an idiot.

I do find it somewhat amusing that you
criticized Frank for "not being man
enough to come clean" like Tom did
(although you didn't quite use those
words, you certainly inferred it)...

Nope. Not even close. Tom and I had a major arguement a few years ago. I don't like his business model and I said so.
Presumably, he isn't fond of mine either. I checked him out with the state and he believes that I filed a complaint but he's wrong.
I never filed a formal complaint against him or anyone else. He may have done the same or even gone farther. I forget what he said
about that. It's water over the dam.

Notwithstanding the prior unpleasantness, Tom has since done a few things that earned him my respect. First, he refused to join the
slime-balls who rejoiced when I got cancer. Second, he worked to help feed needy people during the holidays. I doubt we'll ever be
pals but I believe in giving respect where it's due.

Olson has done nothing to earn anyone's respect. He's no different from Cracker, except he's a little slicker. You're pretty much
the same as Olson -- assuming you aren't just a sock puppet.

You're a very small man, Bass...

I wish. :^)

You hide behind an alias. So what was that about smallness???

 

[FIRETEK]

In Line.

The point is Olson always lies.

Yes, yes... of course... Now it's "always" instead of "hundreds" or
"millions". Frank lies, Graham lies, Norm lies, Bob W. lies, Jack lies,
Mark lies, everyone lies... And your name's really "Pinky" and Tom's "the
Brain". "What are we going to do today, Brain?" "Take over the market,
Pinky".

His tall tales of aerobatics are just icing on his maneur cake.

You've yet to definitively prove he lied about _anything_. What exactly
have we got here? The "ravings" of another liar (you) calling someone he's
never met and doesn't know a "liar". Big deal...

His entire story is a lie.

Prove it.

He's not even an installer.

Prove it.

He never held a pilot's license in the US or Canada.

Prove it. Like I said earlier, the guy that flew me and my son to Victoria
two weeks ago must have been wearing a "Frank" mask. Damn! Call the FAA,
Transport Canada, CSIS, FBI!

He never worked as a tech anywhere in BC.

He _is_ licensed and bonded. Under Provincial Law he must also present his
ID whenever anyone asks.

He's one of the most accomplished jiminex-shooters I've ever known.

Whoops, I forgot... Jim "lies" too.

That wouldn't really bother me at all though. I couldn't care less if a few
moron techs believe his crap. He went RW on me, called
several of my suppliers trying to interfere with my business.

Frank told me all about that and I'm sure he's going to "chime" in here with
a response as well. As far as I know he only called _one_ of your
suppliers, never mentioned your name or his, and asked one simple question.

Why is it I believe him over you? It may have something to do with the fact
that I know him and you obviously don't. I've seen the movie and photos he
has of the test flight which someone obviously arranged with Boeing and the
airline. So you can now add me to that growing list of people you say "lie"
in this group. The fact is that you haven't a shred of evidence to support
your argument except more lies, innuendo, and a whole lot of personal
animus. What-ever happend to your supposed Christian values? You "chuck"
them when-ever you log in?

He pestered at least one and probably several manufacturers as well.

Uh-huh... more of the same old tired Bullshit.

Most just laughed him off. ADI called and asked who the idiot from Canada is.
DSC didn't even bother sending an email.

Just as I will laugh _you_ off here. I don't know you, and I certainly
don't know the names of the distributors you deal with. I personally don't
give a flying duck where you buy your product or how many victims you gull
into thinking you know what you're doing. You're nothing to me. I scrape
shit like you off my shoes almost daily.

The tried to hurt my business.

You forgot to add: "Sob! Sniffle!" You need a hanky?

Mot necessarily. You might just be stupid enough to believe his nonsense.
If you claim you've seen proof of his nonsensical stories then yes, you're a liar
-- possibly a sock puppet. I'm not entirely convinced yet whether you're a
liar or just an idiot.

What did I tell y'all?? The liar's calling me "a liar"... Heh.

Isn't it "convenient" that a poster from Brazil with a problem on a Napco
panel just happened to "stumble" on this Newsgroup? Man, oh man... talk
about coincidence and "sock puppets".

Nope. Not even close. Tom and I had a major arguement a few years ago.
I don't like his business model and I said so.

Heh... sure... Years of flames followed this simple statement. You're an
idiot if you expect anyone to believe this "hokum".

Presumably, he isn't fond of mine either. I checked him out with the state and
he believes that I filed a complaint but he's wrong.

Is that anything like Frank calling ADI and asking what's required to
purchase product from them in Florida?

I never filed a formal complaint against him or anyone else.

You not only filed a "formal" complaint against Graham but a whole plane
load of pilots at some place called "Pinkneyville". I understand it was all
based on lies, innuendo, and good deal of personal animus. Did it make you
feel good doing that?

He may have done the same or even gone farther. I forget what he said
about that. It's water over the dam.

Sure, Bass. Mighty "big" of you.

Notwithstanding the prior unpleasantness, Tom has since done a few things
that earned him my respect. First, he refused to join the
slime-balls who rejoiced when I got cancer.

I seem to recall Frank stating much the same thing. He even wished you a
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

Second, he worked to help feed needy people during the holidays. I doubt we'll ever be
pals but I believe in giving respect where it's due.

Uh-huh. I also noticed how you "declared" your generosity as well. What
does that book "you say you know" have to say about such public
demonstrations of charity and self-righteousness? Who are you out to
impress? Or is it that you want someone to "pat" you on the back?

Olson has done nothing to earn anyone's respect.

The fact that he's no longer flaming you when all you do is publicly attack
his integrity impresses the heck out of me. The fact that you continue to
repeat the same old lies just proves to me (and everyone else that reads
this group) that you're a person with little substance and even less moral
fibre and self esteem.

He's no different from Cracker, except he's a little slicker. You're pretty much
the same as Olson

You mean I've "got your number" and know exactly where you're coming from?

-- assuming you aren't just a sock puppet.

In your dreams, little man.

You hide behind an alias. So what was that about smallness???

After witnessing the "special treatment" you provide your detractors, you
expect me to tell you who I am? How many AHJ's and regulatory agencies are
you gonna phone to check up on my credentials?

 

[Jim]

Here we go again...



I have pictures. "Firetek's" seen them.



You're right... Boeing "never loaned a 737 to some idiot lime Olson"...



I beg to differ. They "loan" aircraft to many different agencies.



And not one has ever posted here. Your "arguments" are based on
"hearsay", supposition, and personal animus. You wouldn't know the
truth if someone hit you over the head with it.

ARE YOU LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS?

 

[Robert L Bass]

ARE YOU LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS?

What a laugh. You're too much of a coward even to post using your real name. There's not much chance you'd even have the nerve to
raise your hand to a wimp like Cracker. If you ever get up the nerve, please do come and give it a try, you cowardly punk.

 

[Robert L Bass]

Those are mighty brave statements

coming from a 57 year old dying
cancer patient with heart disease.
A man in your condition should
just rest, permanently.

I see you're still real concerned about your salvation there, Cracker.

 

[I brive a dus]

Heh... sure... Years of flames followed this simple statement. You're an
idiot if you expect anyone to believe this "hokum". <

OK so you want to throw my name into this thread. That's fine. I'm
feeling froggy.
How would you know that the flames lasted for years if you've just
recently started visiting here? It was a great flame fest. Shame you
missed it (or did you?).

Is that anything like Frank calling ADI and asking what's required to
purchase product from them in Florida? <

I was calling everyone and their cousin down there long before Frank.
I've got news for you. For all of the yapping the Florida board does
they didn't do diddly dick when they actually had the chance. Robert
left himself wide open for a shot when he first got to Florida. He was
offering monitoring on his website and didn't have any disclaimers
regarding Florida residents. I grabbed the opportunity and called the
ECLB. They did NOTHING! NADA. The Hula Hoop. The Big O. They sat on
their asses and told me there was nothing they could do.
Anyway Robert covered himself when he adjusted his website.
6 years later he's still listening to who from the ECLB is going to do
what and how they will do it. Are they threatening him because of my
call? Nope. The threats were triggered from a flame fest between Robert
and some folks from the Florida board. When they had him dead to rights
they did nothing because it wasn't important enough to them but the
second he called them morons they want to hang him. So at what point do
you start thinking that maybe the Florida board doesn't know it's ass
from a hole in the ground, or is more concerned with settling personal
beefs than with protecting the citizens of Florida?

You not only filed a "formal" complaint against Graham but a whole plane
load of pilots at some place called "Pinkneyville". I understand it was all
based on lies, innuendo, and good deal of personal animus. Did it make you
feel good doing that? <

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh an innuendo. The famous Italian suppository

Sure, Bass. Mighty "big" of you.<

That would be water under the bridge. I'd say it's case closed because
of what I explained earlier. There gets to be a point where the devil
you know is better than the hypocrites you don't know. We'll disagree
on most things involving business and politics but our opinions will
never be a mystery.

I seem to recall Frank stating much the same thing. He even wished you a
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.


Uh-huh. I also noticed how you "declared" your generosity as well. What
does that book "you say you know" have to say about such public
demonstrations of charity and self-righteousness? Who are you out to
impress? Or is it that you want someone to "pat" you on the back? <

Who the hell was going to pat him on the back? Be honest. Robert knows
that anything he posts here will immediately be a target (at times
rightfully so), and that posting a reply regarding the food drive would
be viewed only as him clamoring for attention instead of him doing
something decent. Being we don't accept email from each other where did
you want him to respond? The intention of my post was to thank him
anyway.

The fact that he's no longer flaming you when all you do is publicly attack
his integrity impresses the heck out of me. The fact that you continue to
repeat the same old lies just proves to me (and everyone else that reads
this group) that you're a person with little substance and even less moral
fibre and self esteem.<

Those 2 have been hammering away at each other so much they should just
tie the knot and get it over with already. Now before we do that
there's a little matter of the names going on the wedding license. One
would be Robert L. Bass. What is the other name? Frank ____________?

You mean I've "got your number" and know exactly where you're coming from?


In your dreams, little man.


After witnessing the "special treatment" you provide your detractors, you
expect me to tell you who I am? How many AHJ's and regulatory agencies are
you gonna phone to check up on my credentials? <

Folks attacking him who stay anonymous burns his ass. It's funny
watching him search for info on you guys but by same token it's comical
watching grown men hiding from someone who they claim can't harm them.
It's like whistling in a graveyard. What are you hiding from if you
have nothing to fear?

You guys need new flame material BADLY.