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gpsstajer

Jan 1, 1970
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hi,
I need some help with my dc voltage. I have a 5V output Regulator and
my GSM modem works under 3.6V- 4V. I tried to find a regulator with
3.6V but I cannot find. Does somebody know a regulator with ouput of
3.6V or can advice me what I can do with my regulator to get 3.6V.
 
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Meindert Sprang

Jan 1, 1970
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gpsstajer said:
hi,
I need some help with my dc voltage. I have a 5V output Regulator and
my GSM modem works under 3.6V- 4V. I tried to find a regulator with
3.6V but I cannot find. Does somebody know a regulator with ouput of
3.6V or can advice me what I can do with my regulator to get 3.6V.

Use a 3.3V regulator and lift the ground led with a schottky diode (adds
0.4V).

Meindert
 
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Paul Burke

Jan 1, 1970
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gpsstajer said:
hi,
I need some help with my dc voltage. I have a 5V output Regulator and
my GSM modem works under 3.6V- 4V. I tried to find a regulator with
3.6V but I cannot find. Does somebody know a regulator with ouput of
3.6V or can advice me what I can do with my regulator to get 3.6V.

Use a variable regulator like the ZR431 or LM2941 depending on current
required. You'll need acouple of resistors too.

Paul Burke
 
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Mochuelo

Jan 1, 1970
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hi,
I need some help with my dc voltage. I have a 5V output Regulator and
my GSM modem works under 3.6V- 4V. I tried to find a regulator with
3.6V but I cannot find. Does somebody know a regulator with ouput of
3.6V or can advice me what I can do with my regulator to get 3.6V.

Use adjustable regulators, such as the Texas TL317. You choose the
voltage, from 1.2 V to 32 V, with a pair of external resistors.
 
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Leon

Jan 1, 1970
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gpsstajer said:
hi,
I need some help with my dc voltage. I have a 5V output Regulator and
my GSM modem works under 3.6V- 4V. I tried to find a regulator with
3.6V but I cannot find. Does somebody know a regulator with ouput of
3.6V or can advice me what I can do with my regulator to get 3.6V.

You could put two silicon diodes in series.

Leon
 
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Peter Heitzer

Jan 1, 1970
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gpsstajer said:
hi,
I need some help with my dc voltage. I have a 5V output Regulator and
my GSM modem works under 3.6V- 4V. I tried to find a regulator with
3.6V but I cannot find. Does somebody know a regulator with ouput of
3.6V or can advice me what I can do with my regulator to get 3.6V.
Use an adjustable low drop regulator, e.g. lt1585.
 
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linnix

Jan 1, 1970
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Peter said:
Use an adjustable low drop regulator, e.g. lt1585.

LDO or diodes would be fine if your modem does not draw too much power.
However, it would be more efficient if you can regulate it from a
higher input. Do you have access to the input of the 5V regulator, if
so, what voltage?
 
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Richard Dungan

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi,

gpsstajer said:
I need some help with my dc voltage. I have a 5V output Regulator and
my GSM modem works under 3.6V- 4V. I tried to find a regulator with
3.6V but I cannot find. Does somebody know a regulator with ouput of
3.6V or can advice me what I can do with my regulator to get 3.6V.

With GSM modems you need to be concerned about regulator response times,
because of the pulsing current demand. Some cheaper LDOs may not cope
very well. I have used the LT1528 successfully on a couple of commercial
designs, with a potential divider on the feedback pins of (I think) 6R2
(top) and 33R (bottom).

The low value of these resistors reduces the dynamic range of the
current and improves the regulation, at some expense in power. AFAIR
they are not needed for bias current reasons.

The connections from the regulator to the modem must be very low
resistance and the regulator capacitors of suitable value and quality.

HTH
Richard D.

Spamtrapped at ngsATradixDASHdesignDOTcoDOTuk
www.radix-design.co.uk
 
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Richard Dungan

Jan 1, 1970
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I said:
The low value of these resistors reduces the dynamic range of the
current and improves the regulation, at some expense in power. AFAIR
they are not needed for bias current reasons.

Following up my own postings: how sad is that?

In fact the bias current of the LT1528 is fairly high at 125uA, so a
reasonably low resistance feedback divider is of course required.

-RD

Richard D.

Spamtrapped at ngsATradixDASHdesignDOTcoDOTuk
www.radix-design.co.uk
 
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PeteS

Jan 1, 1970
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Richard said:
Hi,



With GSM modems you need to be concerned about regulator response times,
because of the pulsing current demand. Some cheaper LDOs may not cope
very well. I have used the LT1528 successfully on a couple of commercial
designs, with a potential divider on the feedback pins of (I think) 6R2
(top) and 33R (bottom).

The low value of these resistors reduces the dynamic range of the
current and improves the regulation, at some expense in power. AFAIR
they are not needed for bias current reasons.

The connections from the regulator to the modem must be very low
resistance and the regulator capacitors of suitable value and quality.

HTH
Richard D.

Spamtrapped at ngsATradixDASHdesignDOTcoDOTuk
www.radix-design.co.uk

As Richard noted, GSM modems draw large impulse currents. I am
currently using a Sony-Ericsson part and it draws 1A pulses for GPRS
slots and up to 2A in voice [at 3.6V nominal].
A simple solution is the LT1767 (adjustable version) and plenty of
output capacitance as the loop compensation won't handle the speed of
the impulse, which is true of most regulators anyway (perhaps 1000 uF
or so should do it).

http://www.linear.com/pc/productDetail.do?navId=H0,C1,C1003,C1042,C1032,C1064,P1915

Other options are some of the newer parts from TI which have the loop
compensation internal to the regulator. You'll still need to put a fair
amount of output capacitance on it though.

You'll notice I ignore linear regulators as most of them really don't
do well in this sort of situation. If you want to use a linear (the
average current is quite low - typically in the 20-40 mA range)
regulator, then make sure it can handle the response times and the load
changes. Many LDOs can't handle ultra low esr caps on their outputs,
but that's exactly what you need in this case.

Cheers

PeteS
 
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John Popelish

Jan 1, 1970
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Richard said:
I wrote:




Following up my own postings: how sad is that?

In fact the bias current of the LT1528 is fairly high at 125uA, so a
reasonably low resistance feedback divider is of course required.

Generally, all LDOs based on PNP or NPN output devices have large and
variable reference currents because this pin carries the base drive
for the output device. As the output current varies, the reference
pin current must vary, roughly, proportionately. LDOs based on mosfet
outputs have less DC reference current variation, but still must pull
dynamic gate loads through this pin. But a capacitor to ground can
reduce the effect of that.
 
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