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F. Bertolazzi
- Jan 1, 1970
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Jan Panteltje:
That's the only human heart I know of that's the same for all men.
And short, please!
Marx did the same 1800 years later. Same tactics: get fed and pampered by a
rich guy and his friends, show him that he's worthless and guilty of the
worse crimes, and use his money to convince more people that he's an assole
that should either be killed or left in Hell for the eternity.
It was very politicized since the beginning. As any succesful
political/religious movement, from revolutionary become institutional.
Go tell the Kulaks
When you'll grow up, you will follow the same trajectory. Promised.
ROTFL. Waddya know?
That's what the institutionalized religions say, so that the masses will
care about their interior world and not mess around with the real one.
Exactly. It's called "growing up".
You're right. When I finally understood Jesus' and Marxs' message, I become
much happier. I got rid of a bunch of rubbish.
Google is your friend.
I know, Iknow, I've been where you still are.
Exactly. But now I'm free.
In democracy politicians have a 4 year horizon. In dictatures they plan for
longer term. And, usually, fail miserably.
Or the opposite. As I said, is people with your ideas that want a
revolution. Some times you win, and we get Stalin, sometimes you lose, and
we get Hitler.
But, in the end, you're just a nuisance that paves the way to tragedy.
So stop pushing and leave goodwill people to live their lives. If you want
to, you can continue to masturbate with your religions, but, please, keep
it for yourself.
Ok. I know. We, the human race, are the best product of the Universe,
because we are what gives sense to a mindless vortex of stupid atoms.
Excuse me, but I can't accept such a critique from a biggot as you.
You really tired me. I'm not going to read the remaining amenities you
tried to inflict me.
It shows.
The masters of old, the ones that were at the source of these religions were real.
What they taught -, showed these people, was real, it is in the heart of the people.
So if you attack that, then you attack the human heart.
I was not talking about the pump.
That's the only human heart I know of that's the same for all men.
Again, we have to go back a bit, let's keep this simple.
And short, please!
When Jesus came, he showed the apostles, and some other people something.
I am not talking about walking on water, but about something these people could experience, and that
made them followers.
Marx did the same 1800 years later. Same tactics: get fed and pampered by a
rich guy and his friends, show him that he's worthless and guilty of the
worse crimes, and use his money to convince more people that he's an assole
that should either be killed or left in Hell for the eternity.
Much later, during the Roman empire, Christianity was made a state religion, you could
say it was politicalised and used to control people, the Pope being a very clear example of that.
It was very politicized since the beginning. As any succesful
political/religious movement, from revolutionary become institutional.
Many were killed by Pope's followers trying to impose that religion on others.
Go tell the Kulaks
The inquisition was used as a means to 'convince' people, not giving them a divine experience as Jesus did.
So that is for example one aspect of religionI do not like to be exposed to.
When you'll grow up, you will follow the same trajectory. Promised.
But never forget that what Jesus taught and showed those people was real, is real, one thing he said was
the kingdom of heaven is within.
It is this teaching that is at the basis of ANY religion.
ROTFL. Waddya know?
The deeper you go into any religion, from that point of view, the more you
see they all say the same thing: happiness is inside yourself, not outside in this material world.
That's what the institutionalized religions say, so that the masses will
care about their interior world and not mess around with the real one.
and any little kid knows that, but as people grow up in this society at least, that basic knowledge
is replaced by 'happier with a big ice cream', or bigger car, or bigger house, or better wife, or more kids
or whatever is pushed at you by the current advertising.
Exactly. It's called "growing up".
Ultimately you can be at the top of the food chain, have all the power in the world, and still be an unhappy idiot
if you fail to understand that message Jesus had. AND LIVE IT.
You're right. When I finally understood Jesus' and Marxs' message, I become
much happier. I got rid of a bunch of rubbish.
Not a clue who that was.
Google is your friend.
Try reading what I wrote.
I know, Iknow, I've been where you still are.
Maybe you are still very young and have been indoctrinated in some peculiar way.
Exactly. But now I'm free.
But you must be aware that large parts of the world are doing a market economy with communist leadership,
and currently doing a lot better then the bankrupt US.
In democracy politicians have a 4 year horizon. In dictatures they plan for
longer term. And, usually, fail miserably.
From this follows my idea that when the rightist forces grab power, the left will automatically become stronger.
Or the opposite. As I said, is people with your ideas that want a
revolution. Some times you win, and we get Stalin, sometimes you lose, and
we get Hitler.
But, in the end, you're just a nuisance that paves the way to tragedy.
It is like pushing a wall, it will push back just as hard.
So stop pushing and leave goodwill people to live their lives. If you want
to, you can continue to masturbate with your religions, but, please, keep
it for yourself.
No, it is a limited view to think of yourself as isolated from the cosmos,
Ok. I know. We, the human race, are the best product of the Universe,
because we are what gives sense to a mindless vortex of stupid atoms.
and blame anything on 'religion' while you seem to have no clue what religions are or how they came about.
Excuse me, but I can't accept such a critique from a biggot as you.
You really tired me. I'm not going to read the remaining amenities you
tried to inflict me.
I have seen what happens to people I know, I have stayed clear of it myself.
I do not need the drugs, I have the bliss
It shows.