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Discussion in 'Home Power and Microgeneration' started by Gregg Holmes, May 16, 2007.

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  1. RW Salnick

    RW Salnick Guest

  2. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

  3. Danno

    Danno Guest

  4. Richard P.

    Richard P. Guest

    Cool..! I'd drive one of those to work everyday if I could.

  5. that's what you (and everyone else) will be driving in the future (50 years
    or less).
    lightweight, fuel efficient, low horsepower, "slow". speed will be reserved
    for emergency services and time critical shipments, etc.
    i think it's pretty cool.
    my first thought was "ugh, what an ugly color" but i like the color in the
    side view of the car, makes it look it's somehow associated with some
    military service. maybe if they made the color matte instead of gloss (with
    indecipherable military insignia) :)
    the more i look at it the more i like it. there's lots of styling
    possibilities, would be neat to see a "retro" design borrowing from the 30's
    and 40's and/or even 30's and 40's sci-fi imagery.
  6. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

  7. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    Did you see the film 'Brazil' ?

  8. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    Bwahahahahahahaha !

    NOOO !

  9. Gregg Holmes

    Gregg Holmes Guest

    We all know it costs to much. Its very suitable for most commuters. If
    you look at the cars on the freeway you will see a majority of them are
    driving solo and probably average 20 miles or less each way. Every day
    I watch the commuters driving there 1 ton pickups to work every day that
    have never had a speck of anything in the bed or towed a trailer for
    that matter. They can drive what they want but don't complain about fuel
    prices as they fill there hummer.

    my .02
  10. They can also get that fuel economy at a cheaper vehicle (well maybe not
    300mpg,but as high or higher than a hybrid)
    With a Harley,Hay Diversified Tech "Bulldog"(civiian version of the military
    diesel motorcycle), or Indian for the fresh air guys
    or for the fully enclosed riding guys Ecomobile( two wheeled BMW
    turbocharged gasoline engine version of VW car, well maybe strike cheap at
    $60000)......Or a three wheeler like the UK company Carver produces(Maybe
    strike cheap also at about 60000USD).
  11. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    But they're also often required to transport a family when not commuting.

  12. Vaughn Simon

    Vaughn Simon Guest

    I really wish that the owners of gas hogs actually paid for their impact,
    but the fact is that everybody on the planet is forced to subsidize them. The
    most obvious way that we feel their presence is at the gas pumps, where we pay
    higher prices because they are raising demand far higher that it could be, thus
    raising prices for all of us. Less obvious, but probably far more expensive is
    their impact on the environment.

  13. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    What part of their impact ?


  14. Vaughn Simon

    Vaughn Simon Guest

    You can't get away with just saying "nonsense". To be taken seriously, you
    need to offer some cogent reasoning for your opinion. What is it?

    All motor vehicles leave an ecological footprint that negatively impacts
    every human on the planet. Like it or not, gas hogs leave an unnecessarily
    large footprint. What part of that is "nonsense"?

  15. So we need to outlaw 18wheelers,trains ,ships,airliners ,and other gashogs.
  16. Vaughn Simon

    Vaughn Simon Guest

    Who said anything about "outlawing" anything?

  17. Because that's the way these discussions go. You bring up a perfectly
    logical point, and eventually in reply you'll
    get a screed about his Constitutional rights to crap on your lawn and
    piss in your well. Then you'll be told to
    "Go Back To Cuba" ;~)

    Seriously though, some people use these "Them Vs Us" or "All or Nothing"
    statements to avoid the truth by refusing
    to talk about it or change the subject. The idea they may be misinformed
    shakes their whole belief structure.
  18. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    It depends how they're used

    If an SUV even carries just 2 people normally, it has a less negative impact than
    most compact cars that are driven only ever by one person.

    The vehicle itself isn't explicitly the problem, not that I'm any fan of SUVs as
    it happens.

  19. Vaughn Simon

    Vaughn Simon Guest

    That is a terrible example: There are far better ways of carrying 2 (or 3
    or 4) people than virtually any SUV made.
    Here, we agree; it is not the vehicle itself, it is the terrible choices we
    make in selecting vehicles.

    I invite you to take a ride with me on my daily commute on one of USA's
    interstates. Take note of the huge vehicles that will be surrrounding our Honda
    Civic. Especially notice that most of them are private vehicles (SUV's &
    pickups) that contain only one human. Do the math; the entire area's commute
    could be happening with a fraction of the fuel usage and environmental
    footprint. It could be just as safe, just as convenient, just as comfortable,
    and we could still avoid using public transportation. I am not talking about
    some futuristic stuff, I am talking about educating the public to make a proper
    selection among vehicles that are available today.

    You still haven't explained your "nonsense" comment.

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