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      12-11-2011, 07:18 PM
Hello,

I have a simple circuit running on a 9v battery. Lets just say it lights a light bulb for simplicity sake.

I just purchased a wireless doorbell, and am hoping to modify it to remotely control the circuit (open and quick close is fine).

Is this possible? It was a cheap $10 doorbell, so I figured I'd give it a shot.

The door bell runs on 3 1.5v AAA batteries.

The blue and yellow wires go to the speaker for the doorbell.

Thanks for your help!

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      12-11-2011, 07:19 PM
I also have a multimeter which I could use to prod around the board if you have anything in particular that I should look at.
 

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      12-11-2011, 08:26 PM
It appears that 1.5v is getting passed along to the speaker. I need more V than that for my circuit, something more like 9v. Any thoughts on how I can get that as an output?

For example, what about using 2 transformers from an AC wall adapter in reverse - would that work?
 

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      12-11-2011, 08:30 PM
Hi Jaydekay.
Whats the 9 volts going to power / operate ?
 

 
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      12-11-2011, 08:42 PM
If you reverse a transformer your get more than 9 volts mmmmmmmmmuch more.
 

 
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      12-11-2011, 08:47 PM
It is to create a small shock to deter rodents from an outdoor food source.

Right now I have it working successfully as follows.

9V battery > Transformer > Output

The transformer was pulled from an AC wall adapter, and I am using it in revers to step up the voltage (it was naturally used to step down the voltage from 120 to something very small for a shaver). The shock is small, but sufficient for my purposes. However, using the doorbell at 1.5V stepped up is such a small tingle that it won't work for my purposes.

Would 2 transformers help?

Currently, I need to get up in order to operate and would like to do it remotely.
 
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      12-11-2011, 09:00 PM
The only way it will work remotely is a sense circuit an optical PIR or similar, i am not sure where a 9 volt battery fits in to your idea, are you going to sit and watch, then zap them as they pass, kill time ? yes you can step up voltage reversing transformers, current will be low, but enough to kill a rat, a security PIR modified is a better idea, or is the door bell dual purpose, to let you know the Rats arrived, hope your visitors dont mistake it for your door bell, "OUCH"
 

 
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      12-11-2011, 09:04 PM
There is another Rat zap thread on the boards, look at Tezza 1 's thread, might be some ideas there.
 

 
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      12-11-2011, 09:13 PM
Yes, my plan is to just manually zap them when I see them. I like your idea but it's more than I need.

The setup I described is my frist iteration without the remote control.

Iteration 1 (no remote):

9V battery > Transformer > Terminals for shocking.

With iteration 1 I was just manually connecting the positive wire to the positive on the 9V battery anytime I wanted to zap them. Worked like a charm, but when they see me approaching the "control" with the battery, etc, they run away! They're making a game out of it, so I want to be hidden and out of sight when I shock them. Note I need to be inside, and the food is outside. I am currently running the wire through a crack in my sliding glass patio door, which is not idea since its 30 degrees here.

Iteration 2 (with wireless doorbell):

3x 1.5v batteries > Doorbell Output wires > Transformer > Terminals for shocking.

In this second iteration, the shock was very minor.

I don't need/want to kill anything, but a shock at least as strong as the initial iteration is needed. I can handle the shock but it is not friendly

Any further thoughts after this clarification?

Thanks again, and I will check out the rat zap...
 

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      12-11-2011, 11:28 PM
Quote: but when they see me approaching the "control" with the battery, etc, they run away! They're making a game out of it,

These are clever rats, making a game out of playing with mains voltage, i have to say this, dont you think its a little sadistic to wont to zap them manually, surely its more humane to use an automated device as a deterrent, or you could just try removing the reason for there curiosity, no not your electrocution door bell invention, i was thinking of the food source there interested in.
 

 
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