trying to add a small shock to bird feeder, to stop the squirrels

Discussion in 'General Electronics' started by Vender, Apr 25, 2004.

  1. Vender

    Vender Guest

    Hello, I am trying to add a small shock to a bird feeder from a 9VOLT
    battery. The squirrels are taking over and need a simple way to do
    this. Thanks for the help. And for all the PETA people who are going
    to complain, please dont. I am not trying to kill any squirrel.
    Vender, Apr 25, 2004
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    jeroen Guest

    hi,
    well, you can create a small shocker driven by a 555 timer supplying a small
    300V condensator
    however you should keep it to a small condensator, that is if you want the
    squirrel to survive ;)

    jeroen

    "Vender" <> wrote in message
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    > Hello, I am trying to add a small shock to a bird feeder from a 9VOLT
    > battery. The squirrels are taking over and need a simple way to do
    > this. Thanks for the help. And for all the PETA people who are going
    > to complain, please dont. I am not trying to kill any squirrel.
    jeroen, Apr 25, 2004
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    Gary Lecomte Guest

    (Vender) wrote in message news:<>...
    > Hello, I am trying to add a small shock to a bird feeder from a 9VOLT
    > battery. The squirrels are taking over and need a simple way to do
    > this. Thanks for the help. And for all the PETA people who are going
    > to complain, please dont. I am not trying to kill any squirrel.


    Any shock that scares the squirrels, will also scare the birds.

    Put the feeder on somthing the squirrels can't climb.

    Gary
    Gary Lecomte, Apr 25, 2004
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  4. Vender

    Ken Taylor Guest

    How will adding water help?

    Ken

    "jeroen" <> wrote in message
    news:AGVic.151344$...
    > hi,
    > well, you can create a small shocker driven by a 555 timer supplying a

    small
    > 300V condensator
    > however you should keep it to a small condensator, that is if you want the
    > squirrel to survive ;)
    >
    > jeroen
    >
    > "Vender" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > Hello, I am trying to add a small shock to a bird feeder from a 9VOLT
    > > battery. The squirrels are taking over and need a simple way to do
    > > this. Thanks for the help. And for all the PETA people who are going
    > > to complain, please dont. I am not trying to kill any squirrel.

    >
    >
    Ken Taylor, Apr 26, 2004
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    Rich Webb Guest

    On 25 Apr 2004 10:49:40 -0700, (Vender) wrote:

    >Hello, I am trying to add a small shock to a bird feeder from a 9VOLT
    >battery. The squirrels are taking over and need a simple way to do
    >this. Thanks for the help. And for all the PETA people who are going
    >to complain, please dont. I am not trying to kill any squirrel.


    The effectiveness depends somewhat on the layout of the feeder and
    perches but you might try sprinkling some cheap ground cayenne pepper
    either in with the seed or where the squirrels sit and reach for it.
    Birds don't "taste" the capsaicin in the pepper but the squirrels sure
    will. Might convince them to try another buffet...

    --
    Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
    Rich Webb, Apr 26, 2004
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  6. It is going to take a lot more than a 9 Volt battery to do what you
    want. Your problem would be to discrimate between what is a bird and a
    squirrel, if you are not manning the switch manualy.

    There will still be safety issues, and also the consern for animal
    rights.

    There are feeders that are squirrel proof, and also if you have a dog,
    the squirrel will most likely not come over, but birds will.

    Jerry G.
    http://www.zoom-one.com

    --

    (Vender) wrote in message news:<>...
    > Hello, I am trying to add a small shock to a bird feeder from a 9VOLT
    > battery. The squirrels are taking over and need a simple way to do
    > this. Thanks for the help. And for all the PETA people who are going
    > to complain, please dont. I am not trying to kill any squirrel.
    Jerry Greenberg, Apr 26, 2004
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  7. Vender

    Garrett Mace Guest

    "Vender" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hello, I am trying to add a small shock to a bird feeder from a 9VOLT
    > battery. The squirrels are taking over and need a simple way to do
    > this. Thanks for the help. And for all the PETA people who are going
    > to complain, please dont. I am not trying to kill any squirrel.



    http://www.ibiblio.org/Dave/Dr-Fun/df200404/df20040423.jpg
    Garrett Mace, Apr 26, 2004
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  8. Vender

    JeffM Guest

    >try sprinkling some cheap ground cayenne pepper in with the seed
    >Birds don't "taste" the capsaicin in the pepper
    >but the squirrels sure will.
    > Rich Webb


    As common as the problem is, http://www.wildbirds.com/images/squirrel.jpg
    I'm amazed that everyone doesn't know the easy solution
    and tries all this electrical / feeder-relocation / blocking-disk jazz.

    The trick is to realize the differences
    in Mammalian and Avian physiology (receptors).
    JeffM, Apr 26, 2004
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  9. Vender

    Garrett Mace Guest

    "JeffM" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > >try sprinkling some cheap ground cayenne pepper in with the seed
    > >Birds don't "taste" the capsaicin in the pepper
    > >but the squirrels sure will.
    > > Rich Webb

    >
    > As common as the problem is, http://www.wildbirds.com/images/squirrel.jpg
    > I'm amazed that everyone doesn't know the easy solution
    > and tries all this electrical / feeder-relocation / blocking-disk jazz.
    >
    > The trick is to realize the differences
    > in Mammalian and Avian physiology (receptors).



    The easy solution? I think I saw that in a Circuit Cellar or some other
    magazine ages ago...discussed a circuit to control an RC servo with a 555.
    The author used this circuit in conjunction with the internals of a
    battery-powered squirtgun, to remotely aim the nozzle at squirrels in the
    bird feeder area.

    Well...ok, so maybe that's not the easy solution, but it sure is the fun
    one.
    Garrett Mace, Apr 26, 2004
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  10. Vender

    Vender Guest

    ok I think the question was how to make a shocking device for
    squirrels. Not pepper, not squirt gun... And I think if a stun gun
    can shock someone with a 9volt battery I would think it could shock a
    squirrel. Ah f it I will hook up some 120 house current and fry the
    squirrels, that should work. Great forum thanks for no help! Also
    they sell these types of feeders, but I dont want to spend $150.
    Vender, Apr 27, 2004
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  11. Vender

    Rich Webb Guest

    **plonk**

    --
    Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
    Rich Webb, Apr 28, 2004
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    Ken Taylor Guest

    "Vender" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > ok I think the question was how to make a shocking device for
    > squirrels. Not pepper, not squirt gun... And I think if a stun gun
    > can shock someone with a 9volt battery I would think it could shock a
    > squirrel. Ah f it I will hook up some 120 house current and fry the
    > squirrels, that should work. Great forum thanks for no help! Also
    > they sell these types of feeders, but I dont want to spend $150.


    You can't nail a bit of tin around a pole for less than $150?? Electronics
    is over-kill for this, so unless you want to do it for the fun of it, don't
    bother. If you're insistent, go Google 'electric fence circuit' or similar.

    Ken
    Ken Taylor, Apr 28, 2004
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  13. Vender

    Vender Guest

    Rich Webb <> wrote in message news:<>...
    > **plonk**


    *plonk* back at ya. Are you kidding or are you ten years old? This is
    so old, if you dont have an answer shut the **** up!!! People post to
    get answers to questions, pretty simple. God this should be so easy,
    HOW DO I SHOCK SQUIRRELS.
    Thanks, enough bullshit.
    Vender, Apr 28, 2004
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  14. Vender

    JeffM Guest

    >I think the question was how to make a shocking device for squirrels.
    >Not pepper, not squirt gun
    > Vender


    You are not the first to seek a methodology
    to achieve a poorly-thought-out concept. It happens all the time.
    http://groups.google.com/groups?&threadm=
    http://groups.google.com/groups?&threadm=sFvic.16048$-kc.rr.com

    The pepper method has been the technique of choice for decades
    because it discriminates between birds and squirrels (yours doesn't).
    Being hard-headed and relying on an inferior concept,
    http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:29SiSwbFzowJ:c2.com/cgi/wiki?NotInventedHere NIH-syndrome
    while demanding that others provide the particulars to the solution,
    is simply childish.
    JeffM, Apr 29, 2004
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