squirrel zapper

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  1. atk123

    atk123 Guest

    ----------------------------------

    Hi,

    Can anyone help me with making a device that will allow me to shock
    squirrels on my birdfeeder. Nothing lethel, just a little jolt that would
    keep them away. I found these instructions for making a toy shocker, but
    can't figure out the wiring. Can anyone help me with this?

    Shocker Instructions

    These instructions will show you how to build a 9V-powered shocker; the
    parts I specify will generate a quick, minor, non-painful burst, but it
    could be adapted easily to increase the power of the "zap".

    Parts needed:

    1 9V battery
    1 10K resistor
    1 transformer (Radio Shack #273-1380)
    1 relay (Radio Shack #275-241)
    1 22F capacitor (Radio Shack #272-1026)
    1 momentary switch (suggestion: Radio Shack #275-1571)
    1 9V battery connector (Radio Shack #270-325)

    Plus a soldering iron, a few bits of wire as needed, and a box to put it in

    Total cost, without the soldering iron: about $10.

    Here is the circuit itself; sorry that the ASCII representation is so
    painful to look at (using high ASCII chars it's a lot more readable):

    N.O. N.C.
    [=========]
    +-----------[-- --]-----------+
    | [ / ] |
    +-----------[-@@@@@@@-]------+ | (contacts)
    (batt) | [ / ] | | +-----------------------o
    ----------- + [ | ] | | | +--VVVVVV---o
    ----- - [=========] | | | | (resistor)
    | | (relay) | | | |
    | --- | | | | |
    | v --- (cap) | | +-@@@@@@@@@-+
    | --- | | | ========= (transformer)
    +---- -----------(-----------+ +--------@@@@@---+
    | (switch) | |
    +----------------+---------------------------------+


    Can anyone interpret this for me? I want to rig up a device with a button
    inside the house that we can push when we see squirrels on the feeder to
    send a little jolt into them.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks
    Andrew

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    atk123, Jun 30, 2005
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  2. On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:13:08 GMT,
    (atk123) wrote:

    >Hi,
    >
    >Can anyone help me with making a device that will allow me to shock
    >squirrels on my birdfeeder. Nothing lethel, just a little jolt that would
    >keep them away. I found these instructions for making a toy shocker, but
    >can't figure out the wiring. Can anyone help me with this?


    One question...why do you want to do this? Squirrels and birds
    co-exist in nature, sharing some food choices. Why do you want to
    artificially alter this?

    We go for nature walks most weekends, and we see many squirrels and
    birds, and we put out food for them. I just question why you have a
    hate on for the squirrels. Are they not a beautiful part of nature
    just like birds?

    Tom
     
    Tom MacIntyre, Jun 30, 2005
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    JeffM Guest

    JeffM, Jun 30, 2005
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  4. atk123

    Fred Stevens Guest

    Tom MacIntyre wrote:
    > On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:13:08 GMT,
    > (atk123) wrote:
    >
    > >Hi,
    > >
    > >Can anyone help me with making a device that will allow me to shock
    > >squirrels on my birdfeeder. Nothing lethel, just a little jolt that would
    > >keep them away. I found these instructions for making a toy shocker, but
    > >can't figure out the wiring. Can anyone help me with this?

    >
    > One question...why do you want to do this? Squirrels and birds
    > co-exist in nature, sharing some food choices. Why do you want to
    > artificially alter this?
    >
    > We go for nature walks most weekends, and we see many squirrels and
    > birds, and we put out food for them. I just question why you have a
    > hate on for the squirrels. Are they not a beautiful part of nature
    > just like birds?
    >
    > Tom


    I agree with Tom - try and figure out a more inventive and less harmful
    solution (remember squirrels are very smart!). Even Idi Amin liked
    animals. In an interview with Sir David Frost many years ago he was
    asked whether he was happy. His answer was:
    "I hef luf foh de animilce and de animilce hef luf foh me - I'm a heppy
    man!"

    fred
     
    Fred Stevens, Jun 30, 2005
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  5. atk123

    Tom Biasi Guest

    "Tom MacIntyre" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:13:08 GMT,
    > (atk123) wrote:
    >
    >>Hi,
    >>
    >>Can anyone help me with making a device that will allow me to shock
    >>squirrels on my birdfeeder. Nothing lethel, just a little jolt that would
    >>keep them away. I found these instructions for making a toy shocker, but
    >>can't figure out the wiring. Can anyone help me with this?

    >
    > One question...why do you want to do this? Squirrels and birds
    > co-exist in nature, sharing some food choices. Why do you want to
    > artificially alter this?
    >
    > We go for nature walks most weekends, and we see many squirrels and
    > birds, and we put out food for them. I just question why you have a
    > hate on for the squirrels. Are they not a beautiful part of nature
    > just like birds?
    >
    > Tom


    Not to start an off topic flame war but those who feed wild animals are not
    helping them at all.
     
    Tom Biasi, Jul 1, 2005
    #5
  6. atk123

    J Guest

    Well shyuks ... them squarrels go and eat up all the feed corn we been
    puttin out fer them purty flyin things ...


    "Tom MacIntyre" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:13:08 GMT,
    > (atk123) wrote:
    >
    >>Hi,
    >>
    >>Can anyone help me with making a device that will allow me to shock
    >>squirrels on my birdfeeder. Nothing lethel, just a little jolt that would
    >>keep them away. I found these instructions for making a toy shocker, but
    >>can't figure out the wiring. Can anyone help me with this?

    >
    > One question...why do you want to do this? Squirrels and birds
    > co-exist in nature, sharing some food choices. Why do you want to
    > artificially alter this?
    >
    > We go for nature walks most weekends, and we see many squirrels and
    > birds, and we put out food for them. I just question why you have a
    > hate on for the squirrels. Are they not a beautiful part of nature
    > just like birds?
    >
    > Tom
     
    J, Jul 1, 2005
    #6
  7. atk123

    Mike Guest

    Try here.
    http://www.bugspray.com/article/squirrels.html
    They have everything from poison and kill traps to fox urine to keep
    em away along with lots of hints on squirrel proffing things.

    Those nasty little things chewed a big hole through the roof of my
    house and took up residence in the attic. While in there they chewed
    through the wiring for the powered attic vent. Lucky they didn't burn
    the house down. I fixed the hole and they chewed another hole and tore
    up an attic vent to get back in. Don't tell me how cute and natual
    they are, I don't want hear it. This time I put a motion detector that
    sounds an old school bell and starts a strobe light up in the attic.
    Now I wait for em to trigger it and shoot em with a BB gun when I see
    em run off. A couple more weeks of this and they might get the hint
    and I can fix everything again.

    On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:13:08 GMT,
    (atk123) wrote:

    >
    >
    >----------------------------------
    >
    >Hi,
    >
    >Can anyone help me with making a device that will allow me to shock
    >squirrels on my birdfeeder. Nothing lethel, just a little jolt that would
    >keep them away. I found these instructions for making a toy shocker, but
    >can't figure out the wiring. Can anyone help me with this?
    >
    >Shocker Instructions
    >
    >These instructions will show you how to build a 9V-powered shocker; the
    >parts I specify will generate a quick, minor, non-painful burst, but it
    >could be adapted easily to increase the power of the "zap".
    >
    >Parts needed:
    >
    >1 9V battery
    >1 10K resistor
    >1 transformer (Radio Shack #273-1380)
    >1 relay (Radio Shack #275-241)
    >1 22F capacitor (Radio Shack #272-1026)
    >1 momentary switch (suggestion: Radio Shack #275-1571)
    >1 9V battery connector (Radio Shack #270-325)
    >
    >Plus a soldering iron, a few bits of wire as needed, and a box to put it in
    >
    >Total cost, without the soldering iron: about $10.
    >
    >Here is the circuit itself; sorry that the ASCII representation is so
    >painful to look at (using high ASCII chars it's a lot more readable):
    >
    >N.O. N.C.
    >[=========]
    >+-----------[-- --]-----------+
    >| [ / ] |
    >+-----------[-@@@@@@@-]------+ | (contacts)
    >(batt) | [ / ] | | +-----------------------o
    >----------- + [ | ] | | | +--VVVVVV---o
    >----- - [=========] | | | | (resistor)
    >| | (relay) | | | |
    >| --- | | | | |
    >| v --- (cap) | | +-@@@@@@@@@-+
    >| --- | | | ========= (transformer)
    >+---- -----------(-----------+ +--------@@@@@---+
    >| (switch) | |
    >+----------------+---------------------------------+
    >
    >
    >Can anyone interpret this for me? I want to rig up a device with a button
    >inside the house that we can push when we see squirrels on the feeder to
    >send a little jolt into them.
    >
    >Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    >
    >Thanks
    >Andrew
    >
    >
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    Mike, Jul 1, 2005
    #7
  8. atk123

    me Guest


    >>Can anyone help me with making a device that will allow me to shock
    >>squirrels on my birdfeeder. Nothing lethel, just a little jolt that
    >>would keep them away. I found these instructions for making a toy
    >>shocker, but can't figure out the wiring. Can anyone help me with
    >>this?

    >
    >One question...why do you want to do this? Squirrels and birds
    >co-exist in nature, sharing some food choices. Why do you want to
    >artificially alter this?
    >
    >We go for nature walks most weekends, and we see many squirrels and
    >birds, and we put out food for them. I just question why you have a
    >hate on for the squirrels. Are they not a beautiful part of nature
    >just like birds?
    >
    >Tom
    >

    they are tree rats dumb ass. Barely woth the time and effort to kill and
    EAT. But much smarter than you.

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  9. On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:12:19 -0400, "Tom Biasi"
    <> wrote:

    >
    >"Tom MacIntyre" <> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:13:08 GMT,
    >> (atk123) wrote:
    >>
    >>>Hi,
    >>>
    >>>Can anyone help me with making a device that will allow me to shock
    >>>squirrels on my birdfeeder. Nothing lethel, just a little jolt that would
    >>>keep them away. I found these instructions for making a toy shocker, but
    >>>can't figure out the wiring. Can anyone help me with this?

    >>
    >> One question...why do you want to do this? Squirrels and birds
    >> co-exist in nature, sharing some food choices. Why do you want to
    >> artificially alter this?
    >>
    >> We go for nature walks most weekends, and we see many squirrels and
    >> birds, and we put out food for them. I just question why you have a
    >> hate on for the squirrels. Are they not a beautiful part of nature
    >> just like birds?
    >>
    >> Tom

    >
    >Not to start an off topic flame war but those who feed wild animals are not
    >helping them at all.
    >


    Well, Tom...when the Department of Wildlife puts up a sign saying I
    shouldn't feed them, I'll discontinue the practice, but until then,
    the family and I will continue to enjoy ourselves in this way.

    How does your statement (which I disagree with) relate to bird
    feeders?

    Tom
     
    Tom MacIntyre, Jul 3, 2005
    #9
  10. On 1 Jul 2005 06:51:06 -0500, me <> wrote:

    >
    >>>Can anyone help me with making a device that will allow me to shock
    >>>squirrels on my birdfeeder. Nothing lethel, just a little jolt that
    >>>would keep them away. I found these instructions for making a toy
    >>>shocker, but can't figure out the wiring. Can anyone help me with
    >>>this?

    >>
    >>One question...why do you want to do this? Squirrels and birds
    >>co-exist in nature, sharing some food choices. Why do you want to
    >>artificially alter this?
    >>
    >>We go for nature walks most weekends, and we see many squirrels and
    >>birds, and we put out food for them. I just question why you have a
    >>hate on for the squirrels. Are they not a beautiful part of nature
    >>just like birds?
    >>
    >>Tom
    >>

    >they are tree rats dumb ass. Barely woth the time and effort to kill and
    >EAT. But much smarter than you.


    Your intelligence is only matched by your eloquence and spelling
    ability.

    I just hope I don't get burned by "Tom's Law" here. :)

    Tom

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  11. atk123

    Tom Biasi Guest

    "Tom MacIntyre" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Well, Tom...when the Department of Wildlife puts up a sign saying I
    > shouldn't feed them, I'll discontinue the practice, but until then,
    > the family and I will continue to enjoy ourselves in this way.
    >
    > How does your statement (which I disagree with) relate to bird
    > feeders?
    >
    > Tom


    Hi Tom,
    I will not pursue this discussion here. You will do what you will. Wild
    means "wild". Visit any "wildlife preserve" and you will learn.
    My statements do not relate to bird feeders at all. I am off topic. I
    respect you as a contributor to SEB, I will not discuss this issue here.
    Very best regards,
    Tom
     
    Tom Biasi, Jul 4, 2005
    #11
  12. On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:14:20 -0400, "Tom Biasi"
    <> wrote:

    >
    >"Tom MacIntyre" <> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> Well, Tom...when the Department of Wildlife puts up a sign saying I
    >> shouldn't feed them, I'll discontinue the practice, but until then,
    >> the family and I will continue to enjoy ourselves in this way.
    >>
    >> How does your statement (which I disagree with) relate to bird
    >> feeders?
    >>
    >> Tom

    >
    >Hi Tom,
    >I will not pursue this discussion here. You will do what you will. Wild
    >means "wild". Visit any "wildlife preserve" and you will learn.
    >My statements do not relate to bird feeders at all. I am off topic. I
    >respect you as a contributor to SEB, I will not discuss this issue here.
    >Very best regards,
    >Tom
    >


    Just wanted to let you know, before I discontinue as well, that I have
    done a little digging, and there is merit in your argument, some say
    depending on circumstances, but there is merit there. I will be
    continuing to investigate, with the thoughts that I may at least alter
    some aspects of my hobby. Take care. :)

    Tom

    Tom
     
    Tom MacIntyre, Jul 4, 2005
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  13. atk123

    Tom Biasi Guest


    >
    > Just wanted to let you know, before I discontinue as well, that I have
    > done a little digging, and there is merit in your argument, some say
    > depending on circumstances, but there is merit there. I will be
    > continuing to investigate, with the thoughts that I may at least alter
    > some aspects of my hobby. Take care. :)
    >
    > Tom


    Thanks Tom,
    Keep up the good work helping beginning electronics students.
    Please remember, everything we do effects the world, good, bad who knows.
    How much? Who knows?
    Regards,
    Tom
     
    Tom Biasi, Jul 5, 2005
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  14. atk123

    Guest

    what the **** do you have against the squirrels ??? They have just as
    much right to that bird feeder as the birds do....
     
    , Jul 6, 2005
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  15. atk123

    John Fields Guest

    On 6 Jul 2005 15:02:15 -0700, wrote:

    >what the **** do you have against the squirrels ??? They have just as
    >much right to that bird feeder as the birds do....


    ---
    No, they don't. It's a bird feeder, not a squirrel feeder. If the
    fucking squirrels knew their place they'd be lining up at the squirrel
    feeder instead of trying to take the easy way out by taking
    away from the birds what is the birds' due.

    Goddam squirrels, who the **** do they think they are???

    --
    John Fields
    Professional Circuit Designer
     
    John Fields, Jul 7, 2005
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  16. atk123

    John Fields Guest

    On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 19:14:25 -0700, Jamie
    <> wrote:

    >John Fields wrote:
    >
    >> On 6 Jul 2005 15:02:15 -0700, wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>what the **** do you have against the squirrels ??? They have just as
    >>>much right to that bird feeder as the birds do....

    >>
    >>
    >> ---
    >> No, they don't. It's a bird feeder, not a squirrel feeder. If the
    >> fucking squirrels knew their place they'd be lining up at the squirrel
    >> feeder instead of trying to take the easy way out by taking
    >> away from the birds what is the birds' due.
    >>
    >> Goddam squirrels, who the **** do they think they are???
    >>

    >i say a little plasma discharge rings on the poles should
    >wake them up a bit.


    ---
    Yeah, dammit, and on french and germans as well.


    --
    John Fields
    Professional Circuit Designer
     
    John Fields, Jul 7, 2005
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  17. atk123

    Jamie Guest

    John Fields wrote:

    > On 6 Jul 2005 15:02:15 -0700, wrote:
    >
    >
    >>what the **** do you have against the squirrels ??? They have just as
    >>much right to that bird feeder as the birds do....

    >
    >
    > ---
    > No, they don't. It's a bird feeder, not a squirrel feeder. If the
    > fucking squirrels knew their place they'd be lining up at the squirrel
    > feeder instead of trying to take the easy way out by taking
    > away from the birds what is the birds' due.
    >
    > Goddam squirrels, who the **** do they think they are???
    >

    i say a little plasma discharge rings on the poles should
    wake them up a bit.


    --
    Real Programmers Do things like this.
    http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5
     
    Jamie, Jul 7, 2005
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  18. atk123

    steamer Guest

    --Go to a Yardbirds store; go to the rat trap and rhodent
    abatement section in the garden department. Victor makes a widget
    called a "rat zapper" or something like that; sells for about $50.-.
    Runs on batteries, works great for rats, so oughtta work for squirrels,
    too, as they're about the same size and ought to fit into the trap.

    --
    "Steamboat Ed" Haas : Just another fart in
    Hacking the Trailing Edge! : the Elevator of Life...
    http://www.nmpproducts.com/intro.htm
    ---Decks a-wash in a sea of words---
     
    steamer, Jul 7, 2005
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  19. atk123

    Blarg Guest

    With some bird feeders, if a squirrel can get at it, ALL the feed is dumped
    on the ground and the birds the feeder was designed for get nothing.
    Plus, the feeder has to be refilled every time a squirrel gets at it.
    You can buy a collar for the feeder that will keep squirrels off. Looks
    like a cymbal from a drum kit. This will defeat most squirrels.
    "Tom MacIntyre" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:14:20 -0400, "Tom Biasi"
    > <> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >"Tom MacIntyre" <> wrote in message
    > >news:...
    > >> Well, Tom...when the Department of Wildlife puts up a sign saying I
    > >> shouldn't feed them, I'll discontinue the practice, but until then,
    > >> the family and I will continue to enjoy ourselves in this way.
    > >>
    > >> How does your statement (which I disagree with) relate to bird
    > >> feeders?
    > >>
    > >> Tom

    > >
    > >Hi Tom,
    > >I will not pursue this discussion here. You will do what you will. Wild
    > >means "wild". Visit any "wildlife preserve" and you will learn.
    > >My statements do not relate to bird feeders at all. I am off topic. I
    > >respect you as a contributor to SEB, I will not discuss this issue here.
    > >Very best regards,
    > >Tom
    > >

    >
    > Just wanted to let you know, before I discontinue as well, that I have
    > done a little digging, and there is merit in your argument, some say
    > depending on circumstances, but there is merit there. I will be
    > continuing to investigate, with the thoughts that I may at least alter
    > some aspects of my hobby. Take care. :)
    >
    > Tom
    >
    > Tom
     
    Blarg, Jul 14, 2005
    #19
  20. atk123

    Bob Stephens Guest

    On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 21:59:23 GMT, Blarg wrote:

    > You can buy a collar for the feeder that will keep squirrels off. Looks
    > like a cymbal from a drum kit. This will defeat most squirrels.


    *NOT*. PBS presented a great documentary about 10 years ago showing an
    obstacle course made up of all then known squirrel foils - including the
    collar you mention. After about three trial runs the tenacious little
    fuckers ran circles around it.


    Bob
     
    Bob Stephens, Jul 15, 2005
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