Removing solder mask from gold fingers - is it possible?

Discussion in 'Electronic Components' started by JW, Mar 26, 2007.

  1. JW

    JW Guest

    Hello,

    We have a problem with one of our circuit board vendors who applied solder
    mask to the gold fingers on a lot of 100 boards. Naturally, the 100 boards
    were built up and the problem wasn't discovered until test. Does anyone
    know of a way to remove it without losing the gold on the fingers?
    Solvent or ??

    Thanks.
     
    JW, Mar 26, 2007
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  2. On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:34:41 -0400, JW <> wrote:

    >Hello,
    >
    >We have a problem with one of our circuit board vendors who applied solder
    >mask to the gold fingers on a lot of 100 boards. Naturally, the 100 boards
    >were built up and the problem wasn't discovered until test. Does anyone
    >know of a way to remove it without losing the gold on the fingers?
    >Solvent or ??
    >
    >Thanks.


    Try oven cleaner, have had some success with that before.

    Peter
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    Peter A Forbes, Mar 26, 2007
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  3. JW

    clifto Guest

    JW wrote:
    > We have a problem with one of our circuit board vendors who applied solder
    > mask to the gold fingers on a lot of 100 boards. Naturally, the 100 boards
    > were built up and the problem wasn't discovered until test. Does anyone
    > know of a way to remove it without losing the gold on the fingers?
    > Solvent or ??


    There might be some acid which will eat the tincoat without eating the
    gold. If so it's probably nasty stuff.

    --
    "This, then, is the essence of Gore's complaint:
    there are too many humans and they are too well off."
    -- Robert Tracinski
     
    clifto, Mar 26, 2007
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  4. JW

    ian field Guest

    "JW" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hello,
    >
    > We have a problem with one of our circuit board vendors who applied solder
    > mask to the gold fingers on a lot of 100 boards. Naturally, the 100 boards
    > were built up and the problem wasn't discovered until test. Does anyone
    > know of a way to remove it without losing the gold on the fingers?
    > Solvent or ??
    >
    > Thanks.


    If you mean that green varnish type solder resist, you could try Nitromors
    paint stripper otherwise a possibly more difficult to track down solution is
    Oxley Developments Resin Dissolver. A company I worked for years ago used
    this stuff to dissolve thermosetting bonding mats used to stick ultrasonic
    transducers to the bottom of cleaning tanks - you don't want to soak PCBs in
    it though, it'll dissolve them as well!

    Hold on though - cant the PCB firm tell you what'll shift it?!
     
    ian field, Mar 26, 2007
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  5. JW wrote:
    >
    > Hello,
    >
    > We have a problem with one of our circuit board vendors who applied solder
    > mask to the gold fingers on a lot of 100 boards. Naturally, the 100 boards
    > were built up and the problem wasn't discovered until test. Does anyone
    > know of a way to remove it without losing the gold on the fingers?
    > Solvent or ??
    >
    > Thanks.



    What does the board house use to clean its equipment with?


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    Michael A. Terrell
    Central Florida
     
    Michael A. Terrell, Mar 28, 2007
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  6. JW

    Roy Guest

    > JW wrote:
    >>
    >> Hello,
    >>
    >> We have a problem with one of our circuit board vendors who applied
    >> solder
    >> mask to the gold fingers on a lot of 100 boards. Naturally, the 100
    >> boards
    >> were built up and the problem wasn't discovered until test. Does
    >> anyone
    >> know of a way to remove it without losing the gold on the fingers?
    >> Solvent or ??
    >>
    >> Thanks.

    >

    If it is the dark green probimer you have a major problem. It is
    usually applied and lightly dried in an oven at low temperature. After
    exposure to UV it is developed to remove the unwanted resist and then
    baked at a high temperature. After the high temperature bake its
    bloody difficult to remove. ( I dont know of any solvent that works
    without board damage at this point, although I am not saying there is
    not one) The only way that I know of would be scraping or bead
    blasting which obviously is going to result in some loss of plating.
     
    Roy, Mar 28, 2007
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  7. JW

    Guest

    Agreed. The only thing I've seen able to remove solder mask is the
    electrolyte from leaking caps, and that destroys the copper. And it
    does it from the inside as it is under it, doesn't matter what you
    plate it with.

    Grind it off, or maybe since it is liable to be quite flat, mill it
    off with a milling machine.

    JURB
     
    , Mar 29, 2007
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  8. JW <> wrote in
    news::

    > Hello,
    >
    > We have a problem with one of our circuit board vendors who applied
    > solder mask to the gold fingers on a lot of 100 boards. Naturally, the
    > 100 boards were built up and the problem wasn't discovered until test.
    > Does anyone know of a way to remove it without losing the gold on the
    > fingers? Solvent or ??
    >
    > Thanks.
    >


    I tried acetone and strong caustic soda solution, the stuff doesn't budge.

    Assuming chemical is useless, and physical is likely to wreck the bits you
    want, try optical.

    An IR pulsed laser should be a good match for absorption by dark green, and
    the gold will reflect it, as will the copper, and the partial trasparency
    of the substrate should dissipate safely what isn't absorbed by the resist
    layer.

    In order of rising price (and general butchness) try hair removal lasers,
    tattoo removal lasers, and stone cleaning lasers. Take care not to angle
    the thing such that it can reflect off gold or copper right back up the
    waveguide, as that will likely damage or even instantly destroy the laser
    cavity, especially if it's a direct-from-diode sort of pulsed laser.
     
    Lostgallifreyan, Mar 30, 2007
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  9. JW

    rebel Guest

    On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:34:41 -0400, JW <> wrote:

    >Hello,
    >
    >We have a problem with one of our circuit board vendors who applied solder
    >mask to the gold fingers on a lot of 100 boards. Naturally, the 100 boards
    >were built up and the problem wasn't discovered until test. Does anyone
    >know of a way to remove it without losing the gold on the fingers?
    >Solvent or ??


    Mechanical means are going to have an impact on the plating, so (unless the
    pulsed-laser trick works) I suspect you're stuck with chemical attack.

    Dumb question #1: Seeing your board-fab botched their bit, have you tried
    actually asking them WTF the stuff is, and then talking to an industrial
    chemist?
     
    rebel, Mar 30, 2007
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  10. "Lostgallifreyan" <> wrote in message
    news:Xns99036EC7524E2zoodlewurdle@140.99.99.130...

    > I tried acetone and strong caustic soda solution, the stuff doesn't budge.


    Thixotropic organic paint remover?
     
    Homer J Simpson, Mar 30, 2007
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  11. "Homer J Simpson" <> wrote in
    news:tZbPh.29082$__3.7899@edtnps90:

    >
    > "Lostgallifreyan" <> wrote in message
    > news:Xns99036EC7524E2zoodlewurdle@140.99.99.130...
    >
    >> I tried acetone and strong caustic soda solution, the stuff doesn't
    >> budge.

    >
    > Thixotropic organic paint remover?
    >
    >
    >
    >


    Didn't have any.
     
    Lostgallifreyan, Mar 30, 2007
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  12. JW

    Al Guest

    In article <Xns9903C0E62DCF0zoodlewurdle@140.99.99.130>,
    Lostgallifreyan <> wrote:

    > "Homer J Simpson" <> wrote in
    > news:tZbPh.29082$__3.7899@edtnps90:
    >
    > >
    > > "Lostgallifreyan" <> wrote in message
    > > news:Xns99036EC7524E2zoodlewurdle@140.99.99.130...
    > >
    > >> I tried acetone and strong caustic soda solution, the stuff doesn't
    > >> budge.

    > >
    > > Thixotropic organic paint remover?
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >

    >
    > Didn't have any.


    Tetramethylguanidine might do the trick. I've used it in decapsulating
    plastic encapsulated electronic devices. It really stinks and you need a
    hood to use it.

    Al
     
    Al, Mar 30, 2007
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  13. JW

    JeffM Guest

    ZZactly@ aol.com wrote:
    >Agreed.


    What is it you are agreeing with?

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    Most people don't see what YOU see
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    JeffM, Mar 30, 2007
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