PAINTING INSIDE A MICROWAVE IN SIMPLE COLOR?

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  1. SHIMON

    SHIMON Guest

    I HAVE A RUST IN MY MICROWAVE INSIDE, HOW AND WHAT KIND OF COLOR I NEED?
     
    SHIMON, Aug 5, 2003
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    Jerry G. Guest

    There are specialized paints for microwave ovens. Contact the
    manufacture service department of your unit for details. The rust would
    have to be properly sanded and polished to a smooth surface. The paint
    has to be made out of a chemical base that is safe to use in a food
    environment, and also not be heated by the microwaves, causing poisonous
    fumes, or toxins to the food being cooked.

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    I HAVE A RUST IN MY MICROWAVE INSIDE, HOW AND WHAT KIND OF COLOR I NEED?
     
    Jerry G., Aug 5, 2003
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  3. "Jerry G." <> writes:

    > There are specialized paints for microwave ovens. Contact the
    > manufacture service department of your unit for details. The rust would
    > have to be properly sanded and polished to a smooth surface. The paint
    > has to be made out of a chemical base that is safe to use in a food
    > environment, and also not be heated by the microwaves, causing poisonous
    > fumes, or toxins to the food being cooked.


    Readily available from appliance parts suppliers. However, any number of
    other more common non-toxic enamils should be suitable.

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    Sam Goldwasser, Aug 6, 2003
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  4. Almost all paints specially engineered for this use are epoxy base paints. A
    special item that may be obtained as said at the appropiate appliance
    servicer. Do not try to use just any enamle base paint unless you actually
    just want to produce a non-operational peice of art.
    "Sam Goldwasser" <> wrote in message
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    > "Jerry G." <> writes:
    >
    > > There are specialized paints for microwave ovens. Contact the
    > > manufacture service department of your unit for details. The rust would
    > > have to be properly sanded and polished to a smooth surface. The paint
    > > has to be made out of a chemical base that is safe to use in a food
    > > environment, and also not be heated by the microwaves, causing poisonous
    > > fumes, or toxins to the food being cooked.

    >
    > Readily available from appliance parts suppliers. However, any number of
    > other more common non-toxic enamils should be suitable.
    >
    > --- sam | Sci.Electronics.Repair FAQ Home Page: http://www.repairfaq.org/
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    Arthur Jernberg, Aug 6, 2003
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  5. "Arthur Jernberg" <> writes:

    > Almost all paints specially engineered for this use are epoxy base paints. A
    > special item that may be obtained as said at the appropiate appliance
    > servicer. Do not try to use just any enamle base paint unless you actually
    > just want to produce a non-operational peice of art.


    Do you have a reference that will confirm this? The only purpose of the
    paint is to protect the steel interior. As long as it is non-toxic and
    non microwave absorbing, there is no technical reason it won't be just fine.
    There is nothing magical about microwave oven paint and spray cans of
    the stuff are sold by service parts suppliers. "Specially engineered"
    may be another name for "relabeled so we can charge 10 times ans much". :)

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    Sam Goldwasser, Aug 6, 2003
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  6. Sam Goldwasser <> wrote in message news:<>...
    > "Arthur Jernberg" <> writes:
    >
    > > Almost all paints specially engineered for this use are epoxy base paints. A
    > > special item that may be obtained as said at the appropiate appliance
    > > servicer. Do not try to use just any enamle base paint unless you actually
    > > just want to produce a non-operational peice of art.

    >
    > Do you have a reference that will confirm this? The only purpose of the
    > paint is to protect the steel interior. As long as it is non-toxic and
    > non microwave absorbing, there is no technical reason it won't be just fine.
    > There is nothing magical about microwave oven paint and spray cans of
    > the stuff are sold by service parts suppliers. "Specially engineered"
    > may be another name for "relabeled so we can charge 10 times ans much". :)
    >
    > --- sam | Sci.Electronics.Repair FAQ Home Page: http://www.repairfaq.org/
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    Since the interior case is steel and "grounded", the only requirements
    for the paint are that it be non-toxic when at room temperature and
    when slightly heated by whatever is being heated in the oven. Just
    don't use the oven for a day or more while the paint is curing/drying.

    Heating of the thin film of non-conductive paint should not be an
    issue when the potential across the paint thickness is so small. Now,
    if the paint were to be applied over a non-grounded surface where
    there could be a considerable difference in potential from one area to
    the next, it would be a totally different matter.

    As an example. think about popping popcorn kernels when they are lying
    on the bottom surface of the microwave, and how they don't pop, but
    when raised up 1/2 inch above the uniformly grounded surface they pop
    much more readily.

    H. R. (Bob) Hofmann
     
    H. R. Bob Hofmann, Aug 6, 2003
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  7. Sharp and GE supplied their service companies with requirements for use of
    epoxy based paints many years ago. The main reason, in my very limited
    intelligence, is to help protect not only the metal surface and place an
    pleasing coating in the cavity but also to produce a surface that is not
    easily chipped and scratched. Especially from very hot and occasionally
    carbonized food particles. Personally and Expertly I have failed to find any
    good Enamel or Acrylic Paint formulation that can and will standup to such
    abuse<

    >.Simile: Spray Painting the damage on your motor vehicle using those K-Mart

    available spray cans. Sure I does protect the metal, produce a customer
    appealing coating of their selected texture and colour, and is CHEAP. Which
    seems to be your first mandated criteria. BUT it is not recommonded by the
    vehicle manufacturers nor will it last!! Cheers:<

    >Sam: I respect your ability to assimilate and distribute information via

    this media. Most of it, IMLO, is very good and mostly correct. I absolutely
    do concor that the paint, once applied, must be non-toxic (not poison).
    However, on this point I do beg to differ, since I have been servicing these
    infernal things since AMANA brought out their RadarRange. Both on a
    commercial and residential basis.
    "Sam Goldwasser" <> wrote in message
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    > "Arthur Jernberg" <> writes:
    >
    > > Almost all paints specially engineered for this use are epoxy base

    paints. A
    > > special item that may be obtained as said at the appropiate appliance
    > > servicer. Do not try to use just any enamle base paint unless you

    actually
    > > just want to produce a non-operational peice of art.

    >
    > Do you have a reference that will confirm this? The only purpose of the
    > paint is to protect the steel interior. As long as it is non-toxic and
    > non microwave absorbing, there is no technical reason it won't be just

    fine.
    > There is nothing magical about microwave oven paint and spray cans of
    > the stuff are sold by service parts suppliers. "Specially engineered"
    > may be another name for "relabeled so we can charge 10 times ans much". :)
    >
    > --- sam | Sci.Electronics.Repair FAQ Home Page: http://www.repairfaq.org/
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    >
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    To
    > contact me, please use the Feedback Form at repairfaq.org. Thanks.
    >
     
    Arthur Jernberg, Aug 7, 2003
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    gothika Guest

    On 5 Aug 2003 08:54:34 -0700, (SHIMON) wrote:

    >I HAVE A RUST IN MY MICROWAVE INSIDE, HOW AND WHAT KIND OF COLOR I NEED?

    Try your local appliance parts house, they'll have the appropriate
    paint.
    It usually comes in white, off white and almond.
     
    gothika, Sep 17, 2003
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    Turbo Guest

    Here in Canada, Samsung for example, has
    a big paint/rust problem! If it's a Samsung, try
    contacting a dealer. You MAY get a free unit!
    I'm not sure about other brands, but we have
    helped a number of customers get a free Samsung
    oven! hope this helps, Turbo.
     
    Turbo, Sep 17, 2003
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  10. Commercially we use an epoxy based paint specifically made for microwave
    cavities. The surface reust must be removed and the area prepared and
    cleaned properly before applying the epoxy paint. As suggested, check with
    your appliance service dealer.
    "Turbo" <> wrote in message
    news:bk9f4h$39h$...
    > Here in Canada, Samsung for example, has
    > a big paint/rust problem! If it's a Samsung, try
    > contacting a dealer. You MAY get a free unit!
    > I'm not sure about other brands, but we have
    > helped a number of customers get a free Samsung
    > oven! hope this helps, Turbo.
    >
    >
     
    Arthur Jernberg, Sep 18, 2003
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