How to wire lights to flash when it a bass beat comes up

Discussion in 'Electronic Design' started by unsuperman@msn.com, Jun 30, 2006.

  1. Guest

    i wanna try to attach strobe and neon lights to my bass on my computer
    somehow so that they light up when it hits a strong bass note, i know i
    need some kinda of a sound/frequency/vibration sensor to detect the
    beats, but i dont know what to do from there (like how/where to conect
    everything), i have a fairly good and powerfull sound system on my
    computer too. and i want to play around with the thing so i can set how
    strong of a beat i want it to be to light up, i dont want the lights to
    be constantly flashing and giving everyone seisures
     
    , Jun 30, 2006
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  2. Guest

    On 29 Jun 2006 21:25:42 -0700, wrote:

    >i wanna try to attach strobe and neon lights to my bass on my computer
    >somehow so that they light up when it hits a strong bass note, i know i
    >need some kinda of a sound/frequency/vibration sensor to detect the
    >beats, but i dont know what to do from there (like how/where to conect
    >everything), i have a fairly good and powerfull sound system on my
    >computer too. and i want to play around with the thing so i can set how
    >strong of a beat i want it to be to light up, i dont want the lights to
    >be constantly flashing and giving everyone seisures


    Try l;ooking for "color organ" circuits. That was a 70s thing that was
    the laser light show of it's time. They basically broke the music
    spectrum down to 3 or 4 colors of light that lit with the beat.Some
    were pretty simple affairs with crude pass filters. You just need the
    low pass part.
    Basically you hit an SCR or Triac with the stuff that makes it under
    the low pass filter you choose.
     
    , Jun 30, 2006
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  3. Guest

    wrote:
    > On 29 Jun 2006 21:25:42 -0700, wrote:
    >
    > >i wanna try to attach strobe and neon lights to my bass on my computer
    > >somehow so that they light up when it hits a strong bass note, i know i
    > >need some kinda of a sound/frequency/vibration sensor to detect the
    > >beats, but i dont know what to do from there (like how/where to conect
    > >everything), i have a fairly good and powerfull sound system on my
    > >computer too. and i want to play around with the thing so i can set how
    > >strong of a beat i want it to be to light up, i dont want the lights to
    > >be constantly flashing and giving everyone seisures

    >
    > Try l;ooking for "color organ" circuits. That was a 70s thing that was
    > the laser light show of it's time. They basically broke the music
    > spectrum down to 3 or 4 colors of light that lit with the beat.Some
    > were pretty simple affairs with crude pass filters. You just need the
    > low pass part.
    > Basically you hit an SCR or Triac with the stuff that makes it under
    > the low pass filter you choose.


    so basicaly buy one, take it apart and use the peices?
     
    , Jun 30, 2006
    #3
  4. Guest

    wrote:
    > On 29 Jun 2006 21:25:42 -0700, wrote:
    >
    > >i wanna try to attach strobe and neon lights to my bass on my computer
    > >somehow so that they light up when it hits a strong bass note, i know i
    > >need some kinda of a sound/frequency/vibration sensor to detect the
    > >beats, but i dont know what to do from there (like how/where to conect
    > >everything), i have a fairly good and powerfull sound system on my
    > >computer too. and i want to play around with the thing so i can set how
    > >strong of a beat i want it to be to light up, i dont want the lights to
    > >be constantly flashing and giving everyone seisures

    >
    > Try l;ooking for "color organ" circuits. That was a 70s thing that was
    > the laser light show of it's time. They basically broke the music
    > spectrum down to 3 or 4 colors of light that lit with the beat.Some
    > were pretty simple affairs with crude pass filters. You just need the
    > low pass part.
    > Basically you hit an SCR or Triac with the stuff that makes it under
    > the low pass filter you choose.


    so basicaly buy one, take it apart and use the peices?
     
    , Jun 30, 2006
    #4
  5. Luhan Guest

    wrote:
    > i wanna try to attach strobe and neon lights to my bass on my computer
    > somehow so that they light up when it hits a strong bass note, i know i
    > need some kinda of a sound/frequency/vibration sensor to detect the
    > beats, but i dont know what to do from there (like how/where to conect
    > everything), i have a fairly good and powerfull sound system on my
    > computer too. and i want to play around with the thing so i can set how
    > strong of a beat i want it to be to light up, i dont want the lights to
    > be constantly flashing and giving everyone seisures


    Here is what I did lately. It does 5 channels in sofware.

    http://members.cox.net/berniekm/organ.html

    In your case, all you really need is a low-pass filter at about 150 Hz
    driving the lights. A real easy way to do this is to run another
    amplifier, crank up the bass boost, and use it to drive some 12 volt
    automotive tail lights (10 watts each).

    Luhan
     
    Luhan, Jun 30, 2006
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  6. Jim Thompson Guest

    On 29 Jun 2006 21:25:42 -0700, wrote:

    >i wanna try to attach strobe and neon lights to my bass on my computer
    >somehow so that they light up when it hits a strong bass note, i know i
    >need some kinda of a sound/frequency/vibration sensor to detect the
    >beats, but i dont know what to do from there (like how/where to conect
    >everything), i have a fairly good and powerfull sound system on my
    >computer too. and i want to play around with the thing so i can set how
    >strong of a beat i want it to be to light up, i dont want the lights to
    >be constantly flashing and giving everyone seisures


    LP Filter, followed by envelope detector, followed by a comparator
    with an adjustable threshold.

    I have a schematic around here somewhere from my late '70's, early
    '80's disco boom-box days, but it's a blueprint.

    I'll look for it and see if I can get a decent scan.

    ...Jim Thompson
    --
    | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
    | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
    | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
    | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
    | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
    | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

    I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
     
    Jim Thompson, Jun 30, 2006
    #6
  7. Jim Thompson Guest

    On 29 Jun 2006 21:25:42 -0700, wrote:

    >i wanna try to attach strobe and neon lights to my bass on my computer
    >somehow so that they light up when it hits a strong bass note, i know i
    >need some kinda of a sound/frequency/vibration sensor to detect the
    >beats, but i dont know what to do from there (like how/where to conect
    >everything), i have a fairly good and powerfull sound system on my
    >computer too. and i want to play around with the thing so i can set how
    >strong of a beat i want it to be to light up, i dont want the lights to
    >be constantly flashing and giving everyone seisures


    See...

    Newsgroups: alt.binaries.schematics.electronic
    Subject: From S.E.D: How to wire lights to flash when it a bass beat
    comes up - ColorOrgan.pdf
    Message-ID: <>

    ...Jim Thompson
    --
    | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
    | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
    | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
    | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
    | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
    | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

    I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
     
    Jim Thompson, Jun 30, 2006
    #7
  8. Guest

    Jim Thompson wrote:
    > On 29 Jun 2006 21:25:42 -0700, wrote:
    >
    > >i wanna try to attach strobe and neon lights to my bass on my computer
    > >somehow so that they light up when it hits a strong bass note, i know i
    > >need some kinda of a sound/frequency/vibration sensor to detect the
    > >beats, but i dont know what to do from there (like how/where to conect
    > >everything), i have a fairly good and powerfull sound system on my
    > >computer too. and i want to play around with the thing so i can set how
    > >strong of a beat i want it to be to light up, i dont want the lights to
    > >be constantly flashing and giving everyone seisures

    >
    > See...
    >
    > Newsgroups: alt.binaries.schematics.electronic
    > Subject: From S.E.D: How to wire lights to flash when it a bass beat
    > comes up - ColorOrgan.pdf
    > Message-ID: <>
    >
    > ...Jim Thompson
    > --
    > | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
    > | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
    > | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
    > | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
    > | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
    > | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
    >
    > I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.



    um sorry but that didnt help, there is no
    alt.binaries.schematics.electronic gruop...
     
    , Jun 30, 2006
    #8
  9. Jim Thompson Guest

    On 30 Jun 2006 11:34:06 -0700, wrote:

    >
    >Jim Thompson wrote:
    >> On 29 Jun 2006 21:25:42 -0700, wrote:
    >>
    >> >i wanna try to attach strobe and neon lights to my bass on my computer
    >> >somehow so that they light up when it hits a strong bass note, i know i
    >> >need some kinda of a sound/frequency/vibration sensor to detect the
    >> >beats, but i dont know what to do from there (like how/where to conect
    >> >everything), i have a fairly good and powerfull sound system on my
    >> >computer too. and i want to play around with the thing so i can set how
    >> >strong of a beat i want it to be to light up, i dont want the lights to
    >> >be constantly flashing and giving everyone seisures

    >>
    >> See...
    >>
    >> Newsgroups: alt.binaries.schematics.electronic
    >> Subject: From S.E.D: How to wire lights to flash when it a bass beat
    >> comes up - ColorOrgan.pdf
    >> Message-ID: <>
    >>
    >> ...Jim Thompson
    >> --
    >> | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
    >> | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
    >> | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
    >> | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
    >> | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
    >> | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
    >>
    >> I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

    >
    >
    >um sorry but that didnt help, there is no
    >alt.binaries.schematics.electronic gruop...


    If your news provider doesn't carry alt.binaries.schematics.electronic
    you are missing out on a lot of posts.

    However I've posted it to my website....

    http://analog-innovations.com/SED/ColorOrgan.pdf

    ...Jim Thompson
    --
    | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
    | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
    | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
    | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
    | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
    | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

    I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
     
    Jim Thompson, Jun 30, 2006
    #9
  10. Guest

    Jim Thompson wrote:
    > On 30 Jun 2006 11:34:06 -0700, wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >Jim Thompson wrote:
    > >> On 29 Jun 2006 21:25:42 -0700, wrote:
    > >>
    > >> >i wanna try to attach strobe and neon lights to my bass on my computer
    > >> >somehow so that they light up when it hits a strong bass note, i know i
    > >> >need some kinda of a sound/frequency/vibration sensor to detect the
    > >> >beats, but i dont know what to do from there (like how/where to conect
    > >> >everything), i have a fairly good and powerfull sound system on my
    > >> >computer too. and i want to play around with the thing so i can set how
    > >> >strong of a beat i want it to be to light up, i dont want the lights to
    > >> >be constantly flashing and giving everyone seisures
    > >>
    > >> See...
    > >>
    > >> Newsgroups: alt.binaries.schematics.electronic
    > >> Subject: From S.E.D: How to wire lights to flash when it a bass beat
    > >> comes up - ColorOrgan.pdf
    > >> Message-ID: <>
    > >>
    > >> ...Jim Thompson
    > >> --
    > >> | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
    > >> | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
    > >> | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
    > >> | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
    > >> | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
    > >> | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
    > >>
    > >> I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

    > >
    > >
    > >um sorry but that didnt help, there is no
    > >alt.binaries.schematics.electronic gruop...

    >
    > If your news provider doesn't carry alt.binaries.schematics.electronic
    > you are missing out on a lot of posts.
    >
    > However I've posted it to my website....
    >
    > http://analog-innovations.com/SED/ColorOrgan.pdf
    >
    > ...Jim Thompson
    > --
    > | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
    > | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
    > | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
    > | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
    > | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
    > | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
    >
    > I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.



    wow thanks alot for all your help, but thats a bit too much for me, i
    dont wanna build a whole thing outta scratch and like pay a whole
    lot(up to 200$), plus i dont know how to read schematics very well cuz
    im only 15, it would help if u told me something more basic, thnx
     
    , Jun 30, 2006
    #10
  11. Luhan Guest

    Jim Thompson wrote:
    >
    > If your news provider doesn't carry alt.binaries.schematics.electronic
    > you are missing out on a lot of posts.
    >
    > However I've posted it to my website....
    >
    > http://analog-innovations.com/SED/ColorOrgan.pdf
    >



    Two comments:

    1) That's a really impressive analog design.

    2) That's why I rather do it with software today.

    Luhan
     
    Luhan, Jun 30, 2006
    #11
  12. Joel Kolstad Guest

    "Luhan" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Jim Thompson wrote:
    >> http://analog-innovations.com/SED/ColorOrgan.pdf

    >
    > Two comments:
    > 1) That's a really impressive analog design.
    > 2) That's why I rather do it with software today.


    My impression is that Jim gets paid considerably more than most programmers
    do... I think I'd stick with the analog path... :) (Granted, Bill Gates is
    the richest guy around, and he didn't need any more smarts than a sharp
    high-school kid to implement the technical parts of DOS...)
     
    Joel Kolstad, Jun 30, 2006
    #12
  13. GregS Guest

    In article <>, wrote:
    >
    >Jim Thompson wrote:
    >> On 30 Jun 2006 11:34:06 -0700, wrote:
    >>
    >> >
    >> >Jim Thompson wrote:
    >> >> On 29 Jun 2006 21:25:42 -0700, wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> >i wanna try to attach strobe and neon lights to my bass on my computer
    >> >> >somehow so that they light up when it hits a strong bass note, i know i
    >> >> >need some kinda of a sound/frequency/vibration sensor to detect the
    >> >> >beats, but i dont know what to do from there (like how/where to conect
    >> >> >everything), i have a fairly good and powerfull sound system on my
    >> >> >computer too. and i want to play around with the thing so i can set how
    >> >> >strong of a beat i want it to be to light up, i dont want the lights to
    >> >> >be constantly flashing and giving everyone seisures

    >>

    >wow thanks alot for all your help, but thats a bit too much for me, i
    >dont wanna build a whole thing outta scratch and like pay a whole
    >lot(up to 200$), plus i dont know how to read schematics very well cuz
    >im only 15, it would help if u told me something more basic, thnx


    http://www.apogeekits.com/color_organ_light_kit.htm

    Or other many places with kits, or you may find some built ones also.

    greg
     
    GregS, Jun 30, 2006
    #13
  14. Luhan Guest

    Joel Kolstad wrote:
    > "Luhan" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > Jim Thompson wrote:
    > >> http://analog-innovations.com/SED/ColorOrgan.pdf

    > >
    > > Two comments:
    > > 1) That's a really impressive analog design.
    > > 2) That's why I rather do it with software today.

    >
    > My impression is that Jim gets paid considerably more than most programmers
    > do... I think I'd stick with the analog path... :) (Granted, Bill Gates is
    > the richest guy around, and he didn't need any more smarts than a sharp
    > high-school kid to implement the technical parts of DOS...)



    My impression is that Jim knows about 10 times what I do. However,
    what I do gets paid pretty well today if you do both software and the
    hardware behind it.

    When I took up micros, I stopped learning much more about analog and
    digital logic design. Its a tradeoff, thats all. I like how much I
    can get done with very little effort. I was a big fan of Manard G.
    Krebbs.

    Luhan
     
    Luhan, Jun 30, 2006
    #14
  15. DaveM Guest

    "Luhan" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > Joel Kolstad wrote:
    >> "Luhan" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >> > Jim Thompson wrote:
    >> >> http://analog-innovations.com/SED/ColorOrgan.pdf
    >> >
    >> > Two comments:
    >> > 1) That's a really impressive analog design.
    >> > 2) That's why I rather do it with software today.

    >>
    >> My impression is that Jim gets paid considerably more than most programmers
    >> do... I think I'd stick with the analog path... :) (Granted, Bill Gates is
    >> the richest guy around, and he didn't need any more smarts than a sharp
    >> high-school kid to implement the technical parts of DOS...)

    >
    >
    > My impression is that Jim knows about 10 times what I do. However,
    > what I do gets paid pretty well today if you do both software and the
    > hardware behind it.
    >
    > When I took up micros, I stopped learning much more about analog and
    > digital logic design. Its a tradeoff, thats all. I like how much I
    > can get done with very little effort. I was a big fan of Manard G.
    > Krebbs.
    >
    > Luhan
    >



    WORK!!!????!!!


    --
    Dave M
    MasonDG44 at comcast dot net (Just substitute the appropriate characters in the
    address)

    Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot.
     
    DaveM, Jun 30, 2006
    #15
  16. DaveM Guest

    <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >
    > Jim Thompson wrote:
    >> On 30 Jun 2006 11:34:06 -0700, wrote:
    >>
    >> >
    >> >Jim Thompson wrote:
    >> >> On 29 Jun 2006 21:25:42 -0700, wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> >i wanna try to attach strobe and neon lights to my bass on my computer
    >> >> >somehow so that they light up when it hits a strong bass note, i know i
    >> >> >need some kinda of a sound/frequency/vibration sensor to detect the
    >> >> >beats, but i dont know what to do from there (like how/where to conect
    >> >> >everything), i have a fairly good and powerfull sound system on my
    >> >> >computer too. and i want to play around with the thing so i can set how
    >> >> >strong of a beat i want it to be to light up, i dont want the lights to
    >> >> >be constantly flashing and giving everyone seisures
    >> >>
    >> >> See...
    >> >>
    >> >> Newsgroups: alt.binaries.schematics.electronic
    >> >> Subject: From S.E.D: How to wire lights to flash when it a bass beat
    >> >> comes up - ColorOrgan.pdf
    >> >> Message-ID: <>
    >> >>
    >> >> ...Jim Thompson
    >> >
    >> >um sorry but that didnt help, there is no
    >> >alt.binaries.schematics.electronic gruop...

    >>
    >> If your news provider doesn't carry alt.binaries.schematics.electronic
    >> you are missing out on a lot of posts.
    >>
    >> However I've posted it to my website....
    >>
    >> http://analog-innovations.com/SED/ColorOrgan.pdf
    >>
    >> ...Jim Thompson
    >> --

    >
    >
    > wow thanks alot for all your help, but thats a bit too much for me, i
    > dont wanna build a whole thing outta scratch and like pay a whole
    > lot(up to 200$), plus i dont know how to read schematics very well cuz
    > im only 15, it would help if u told me something more basic, thnx
    >




    Here are a few more that might be more to your liking...
    http://www.discovercircuits.com/C/color-org.htm
    Take your pick.. most are pretty simple, but will do what you want.
    If these are too complicated for you, and you don't think you could build the
    circuits, find a friend who does have the ability and watch and learn while
    he/she builds it. Might be a good time to start learning a very interesting
    trade.

    Good luck.
    --
    Dave M
    MasonDG44 at comcast dot net (Just substitute the appropriate characters in the
    address)

    Some days you're the dog, some days the hydrant.
     
    DaveM, Jun 30, 2006
    #16
  17. JeffM Guest

    >(Granted, Bill Gates is the richest guy around,
    >>and he didn't need any more smarts than a sharp
    >>high-school kid to implement the technical parts of DOS...)

    > Joel Kolstad


    Giving more credit than is due:
    http://www.google.com/search?q=Tim-Paterson DOS
     
    JeffM, Jul 1, 2006
    #17
  18. Jim Thompson Guest

    On 30 Jun 2006 11:49:16 -0700, wrote:

    >
    >Jim Thompson wrote:
    >> On 30 Jun 2006 11:34:06 -0700, wrote:
    >>
    >> >
    >> >Jim Thompson wrote:
    >> >> On 29 Jun 2006 21:25:42 -0700, wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> >i wanna try to attach strobe and neon lights to my bass on my computer
    >> >> >somehow so that they light up when it hits a strong bass note,

    [snip]
    >> >
    >> >um sorry but that didnt help, there is no
    >> >alt.binaries.schematics.electronic gruop...

    >>
    >> If your news provider doesn't carry alt.binaries.schematics.electronic
    >> you are missing out on a lot of posts.
    >>
    >> However I've posted it to my website....
    >>
    >> http://analog-innovations.com/SED/ColorOrgan.pdf
    >>
    >> ...Jim Thompson

    >
    >
    >wow thanks alot for all your help, but thats a bit too much for me, i
    >dont wanna build a whole thing outta scratch and like pay a whole
    >lot(up to 200$), plus i dont know how to read schematics very well cuz
    >im only 15, it would help if u told me something more basic, thnx


    Only the uppermost row is the "beat" section, the rest are for a color
    organ/light chase.

    For those of you familiar with the Phoenix area, this circuit and a
    boom box design went into the Bobby McGee's on I17 and (IIRC) Dunlap.

    ...Jim Thompson
    --
    | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
    | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
    | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
    | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
    | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
    | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

    I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
     
    Jim Thompson, Jul 1, 2006
    #18
  19. ehsjr Guest

    wrote:
    > i wanna try to attach strobe and neon lights to my bass on my computer
    > somehow so that they light up when it hits a strong bass note, i know i
    > need some kinda of a sound/frequency/vibration sensor to detect the
    > beats, but i dont know what to do from there (like how/where to conect
    > everything), i have a fairly good and powerfull sound system on my
    > computer too. and i want to play around with the thing so i can set how
    > strong of a beat i want it to be to light up, i dont want the lights to
    > be constantly flashing and giving everyone seisures
    >



    Someone in the thread mentioned getting a kit. Here's one:
    http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?preadd=action&key=ML1C

    Ed
     
    ehsjr, Jul 2, 2006
    #19
  20. Palinurus Guest

    Luhan wrote:

    > Here is what I did lately. It does 5 channels in sofware.
    >
    > http://members.cox.net/berniekm/organ.html
    >

    -
    Impressive. But if those are SSRs you're using for output (I didn't see
    a parts list,) then it couldn't do a real proportional output. Except in
    a rough, time-proportioning way, which is fine for industrial heaters,
    but maybe not so good for visual presentation.

    --
    ______________________________________________
    Insanity is the inability to either tolerate or create ambiguity.
     
    Palinurus, Jul 4, 2006
    #20
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    TheRISE TheFALL, Aug 3, 2011, in forum: General Electronics Chat
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