Help with noisy neighbor (loud stereo at all times of the day)

Discussion in 'Electronic Design' started by FreebsdOp, Jan 27, 2004.

  1. FreebsdOp

    FreebsdOp Guest

    Dear sci.electronics.design, I have a noisy neighbor who plays his
    stereo at different times in the day. I got no problems with him playing
    it during normal hours (noon till 10 pm) but he plays the damn thing at
    8 am every few days! I called him, spoke to him, left a letter for him
    and it worked for about 3 weeks but now, the loud bass is back.
    I don't wanna get the landlord nor police involved, would one of these
    do the trick:

    - Get a handheld CB with a radio shack CB antenna and power it on when
    the loud music starts, would this cause interference for his stereo?

    - I read of pre-built FM transmitters, how does one used this to cause
    interference (for a short time only, to send the bugger to get his
    stereo fixed :-0)

    The apartment I'm in is like this:

    [me] [staircase] [idiot stereo bass guy]

    There is about 10 feet between our walls and I can feel the bass, it is
    very loud.

    Help me please,

    Thanks.

    FreeBSDop
    FreebsdOp, Jan 27, 2004
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  2. FreebsdOp

    Active8 Guest

    On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 23:59:27 -0500, said...
    > Dear sci.electronics.design, I have a noisy neighbor who plays his
    > stereo at different times in the day. I got no problems with him playing
    > it during normal hours (noon till 10 pm) but he plays the damn thing at
    > 8 am every few days! I called him, spoke to him, left a letter for him
    > and it worked for about 3 weeks but now, the loud bass is back.
    > I don't wanna get the landlord nor police involved, would one of these
    > do the trick:
    >
    > - Get a handheld CB with a radio shack CB antenna and power it on when
    > the loud music starts, would this cause interference for his stereo?


    Prob not. Depends. He'd just put a CD in anyway.
    >
    > - I read of pre-built FM transmitters, how does one used this to cause
    > interference (for a short time only, to send the bugger to get his
    > stereo fixed :-0)


    That's illegal.
    >
    > The apartment I'm in is like this:
    >
    > [me] [staircase] [idiot stereo bass guy]

    ^^^^^^ grease starting a few steps down. Get some kids to
    mess with his car to get him running down the steps. Slip inside
    and FUBAR the stereo while he's chasing the little speedsters who
    stay just far enough ahead of him to make him think he has a chance
    of catching them. Maybe an ambush, too.

    That's also illegal, but loads more fun.

    You can build a circuit that beeps while he's trying to get to
    sleep and when he gets up to look for the source and makes noise,
    it shuts off :) That would be fun, too! Get a maintainance man to
    put it in the attic with a concealed pinhole for the sound.
    >
    > There is about 10 feet between our walls and I can feel the bass, it is
    > very loud.
    >
    > Help me please,


    You may be screwed. 10pm may or may not be the cutoff for noise
    laws. I'd think the landlord is the best bet or bail out after
    thumping the neighbor's head and 'splain it to the judge. The judge
    would be more understanding if you tried other things, first.

    I lived in townhouse once where the property manager would beat on
    my door if she could hear music through the screen door as she was
    walking by. The neighbor gal used to whine to her about the
    vibration causing her knickknacks to vibrate off the shelves. I'm
    not talking about a lot of volume, either. The bitch is... for some
    reason, her husband's thump, thump, thumping on his friggin'
    punching bag didn't cause the damn things to walk and yet she
    complained about me and my fiance`'s thump, thump, thumping on the
    water bed. I never heard them thump, humping, so she was probably
    just jealous. Once I got my fiance`'s name on the lease, I didn't
    hear that complaint again. :p
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > FreeBSDop
    >
    >

    I don't remember the subject line, but google has this problem
    archived - from this group, too. It was a lengthy discussion and
    you'll get a lot out of it.

    Sometimes when the law won't work for you and there's a menace
    about, vigilantes form. Sometimes they solve the problem with
    violence, but with a little thought, you could get all his friends
    turned against him and lots of other little problems cropping up
    like magazine subscriptions, get the clerk at the store to say his
    card declined, "bill collectors" calling, whatever. Talk to him
    again and remind him that what comes around goes around so that
    when things go south for him, maybe he'll think.

    Doom on Dickhead.

    --
    Mike

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    Vietnamese for "Go f??k yourself."

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    Active8, Jan 27, 2004
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  3. FreebsdOp

    Bill Bailley Guest


    >
    > There is about 10 feet between our walls and I can feel the bass, it is
    > very loud.
    >
    > Help me please,
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > FreeBSDop
    >

    The best way is to train your noisy neighbour over a (shortish) period of
    time.

    A very simple system consisting of a 12 inch speaker for the microphone, and
    a Piezo alarm horn for the speaker.

    The speaker makes a great mic, and super duper low pass filter. You need a
    small amplifier, a comparator cct., and a solid state relay to drive the
    piezo (in-built) electronics.

    In use, the 12 inch speaker is positioned to give best pickup of the
    offending stereo, and the amplifier and comparator adjusted to produce tone
    busts from the piezo. You can use a lamp when testing. You may need to
    separate the horn and "mic" some yards to prevent feedback.
    So, each time the offending stereo exceeds the limit you have set, your
    neighbour will get a squawk. You can adjust the output of the piezo horn
    with pillows. He will quickly learn that lowering the volume will stop the
    squawk. You can then turn up your gains a little to make him turn his down
    yet more.
    Works a treat. It has been found that it is better to leave this device on
    24/7. It is amazing just how many of your neighbours will appreciate the
    return of peace.

    Bill.

    P.S. Also very effective if you have clog dancers living above you.
    Bill Bailley, Jan 27, 2004
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  4. FreebsdOp

    xxx Guest

    In message <>, FreebsdOp
    <> writes
    >Dear sci.electronics.design, I have a noisy neighbor who plays his
    >stereo at different times in the day. I got no problems with him playing
    >it during normal hours (noon till 10 pm) but he plays the damn thing at
    >8 am every few days! I called him, spoke to him, left a letter for him
    >and it worked for about 3 weeks but now, the loud bass is back.
    >I don't wanna get the landlord nor police involved, would one of these
    >do the trick:


    My brother used to suffer from a neighbour who used to start playing his
    loud music at around midnight and finish around 2 a.m. He tried the
    polite approach, but to no effect.

    So he set his alarm clock for 5 a.m. then took out a hammer drill and
    drilled three or four holes in the intervening wall (not all the way
    through). After three days the late night music stopped. A bit of
    plaster and some paint and everything was as good as new. It might work
    for you.
    --
    Graham
    xxx, Jan 27, 2004
    #4
  5. FreebsdOp

    Active8 Guest

    On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:56:52 +0000, said...
    > In message <>, FreebsdOp
    > <> writes
    > >Dear sci.electronics.design, I have a noisy neighbor who plays his
    > >stereo at different times in the day. I got no problems with him playing
    > >it during normal hours (noon till 10 pm) but he plays the damn thing at
    > >8 am every few days! I called him, spoke to him, left a letter for him
    > >and it worked for about 3 weeks but now, the loud bass is back.
    > >I don't wanna get the landlord nor police involved, would one of these
    > >do the trick:

    >
    > My brother used to suffer from a neighbour who used to start playing his
    > loud music at around midnight and finish around 2 a.m. He tried the
    > polite approach, but to no effect.
    >
    > So he set his alarm clock for 5 a.m. then took out a hammer drill


    LOL

    My Army room mate in Germany used to go downstairs (being a small
    unit we shared a barracks with a unit of idiots) with a baseball
    bat and wail on the solid wood door of the offending troops.

    > and
    > drilled three or four holes in the intervening wall (not all the way
    > through). After three days the late night music stopped. A bit of
    > plaster and some paint and everything was as good as new. It might work
    > for you.
    >


    --
    Best Regards,
    Mike
    Active8, Jan 27, 2004
    #5
  6. FreebsdOp

    Quack Guest

    If its an apartment there is usually a central main fuse box
    downstairs - or atleast there is where i live - go in, turn it off,
    through the fuse into the nearest bushes and go back inside... :)


    FreebsdOp <> wrote in message news:<>...
    > Dear sci.electronics.design, I have a noisy neighbor who plays his
    > stereo at different times in the day. I got no problems with him playing
    > it during normal hours (noon till 10 pm) but he plays the damn thing at
    > 8 am every few days! I called him, spoke to him, left a letter for him
    > and it worked for about 3 weeks but now, the loud bass is back.
    > I don't wanna get the landlord nor police involved, would one of these
    > do the trick:
    >
    > - Get a handheld CB with a radio shack CB antenna and power it on when
    > the loud music starts, would this cause interference for his stereo?
    >
    > - I read of pre-built FM transmitters, how does one used this to cause
    > interference (for a short time only, to send the bugger to get his
    > stereo fixed :-0)
    >
    > The apartment I'm in is like this:
    >
    > [me] [staircase] [idiot stereo bass guy]
    >
    > There is about 10 feet between our walls and I can feel the bass, it is
    > very loud.
    >
    > Help me please,
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > FreeBSDop
    Quack, Jan 27, 2004
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  7. I read in sci.electronics.design that Active8 <mTHISREMOVEcolasono@earth
    link.net> wrote (in <>
    ) about 'Help with noisy neighbor (loud stereo at all times of the
    day)', on Tue, 27 Jan 2004:

    >wail

    whale?
    --
    Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
    The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
    The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
    http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk
    John Woodgate, Jan 27, 2004
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  8. FreebsdOp

    JeffM Guest

    >noisy neighbor [idiot stereo bass guy]
    >I don't wanna get the landlord nor police involved
    >FreebsdOp


    When you subsidize behavior, you get more of it;
    when you punish behavior, you get less of it.

    DO get the police involved as soon as possible.
    Get a copy of the incident report from the cop
    (includes the time, a description of the problem, and the cop's badge#).

    Having a collection of these in hand,
    after the nth incident (3rd strike ?) have the jerk arrested
    and show up in court (with the evidence) to testify.
    From experience: The longer you tolerate this behavior,
    the greater number of people who will acccept it as "normal"
    and the greater number of people who will imitate it.

    Immediately after having him arrested, have the landlord evict him.
    Having neighbors who are also irritated
    and who will band with you against the jerk is a plus.
    (Mothers with small children are especially sensitive to this.)


    The only easy alternative is an automated sleep-deprivation method
    (timer that activates a noise source at intervals in the wee hours).
    How you keep it from also waking you and others up is the problem.
    JeffM, Jan 27, 2004
    #8
  9. FreebsdOp

    Active8 Guest

    On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:04:47 +0000,
    said...
    > I read in sci.electronics.design that Active8 <mTHISREMOVEcolasono@earth
    > link.net> wrote (in <>
    > ) about 'Help with noisy neighbor (loud stereo at all times of the
    > day)', on Tue, 27 Jan 2004:
    >
    > >wail

    > whale?
    >

    Wales?

    No. Wail as in wail on someone's head, door, etc. It's an
    Americanism.
    --
    Best Regards,
    Mike
    Active8, Jan 27, 2004
    #9
  10. I read in sci.electronics.design that Active8 <mTHISREMOVEcolasono@earth
    link.net> wrote (in <>
    ) about 'Help with noisy neighbor (loud stereo at all times of the
    day)', on Tue, 27 Jan 2004:
    >On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:04:47 +0000,
    >said...
    >> I read in sci.electronics.design that Active8 <mTHISREMOVEcolasono@earth
    >> link.net> wrote (in <>
    >> ) about 'Help with noisy neighbor (loud stereo at all times of the
    >> day)', on Tue, 27 Jan 2004:
    >>
    >> >wail

    >> whale?
    >>

    >Wales?
    >
    >No. Wail as in wail on someone's head, door, etc. It's an
    >Americanism.


    Indeed, but I've only seen it spelt 'whale'. My very ancient Webster
    doesn't give either. Chambers, however, gives 'whale' with that meaning
    without labelling it US English.
    --
    Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
    The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
    The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
    http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk
    John Woodgate, Jan 27, 2004
    #10
  11. On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:21:50 GMT, the renowned Active8
    <,invalid> wrote:

    >On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:04:47 +0000,
    >said...
    >> I read in sci.electronics.design that Active8 <mTHISREMOVEcolasono@earth
    >> link.net> wrote (in <>
    >> ) about 'Help with noisy neighbor (loud stereo at all times of the
    >> day)', on Tue, 27 Jan 2004:
    >>
    >> >wail

    >> whale?
    >>

    >Wales?
    >
    >No. Wail as in wail on someone's head, door, etc. It's an
    >Americanism.


    M-W has the following entry:

    Main Entry: 3whale
    Function: transitive verb
    Inflected Form(s): whaled; whal·ing
    Etymology: origin unknown
    1 : LASH, THRASH
    2 : to strike or hit vigorously
    3 : to defeat soundly

    But no comparable meaning for "wail". Despite that, Google indicates
    (with only a very small sample, I might add) that it's more often
    misspelt than not.

    Best regards,
    Spehro Pefhany
    --
    "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
    Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
    Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
    Spehro Pefhany, Jan 27, 2004
    #11
  12. On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:14:36 +0000, the renowned John Woodgate
    <> wrote:

    >I read in sci.electronics.design that Active8 <mTHISREMOVEcolasono@earth
    >link.net> wrote (in <>
    >) about 'Help with noisy neighbor (loud stereo at all times of the
    >day)', on Tue, 27 Jan 2004:
    >>On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:04:47 +0000,
    >>said...
    >>> I read in sci.electronics.design that Active8 <mTHISREMOVEcolasono@earth
    >>> link.net> wrote (in <>
    >>> ) about 'Help with noisy neighbor (loud stereo at all times of the
    >>> day)', on Tue, 27 Jan 2004:
    >>>
    >>> >wail
    >>> whale?
    >>>

    >>Wales?
    >>
    >>No. Wail as in wail on someone's head, door, etc. It's an
    >>Americanism.

    >
    >Indeed, but I've only seen it spelt 'whale'. My very ancient Webster
    >doesn't give either. Chambers, however, gives 'whale' with that meaning
    >without labelling it US English.


    OED1 shows it dating from 1790, and speculates it may have come from
    thrashing with a whalebone whip.

    Now, should it be "whaleing" or "whaling"? ;-)

    Best regards,
    Spehro Pefhany
    --
    "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
    Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
    Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
    Spehro Pefhany, Jan 27, 2004
    #12
  13. I read in sci.electronics.design that Spehro Pefhany <Spehro@Pefhany.?>
    wrote (in <>) about 'Help with
    noisy neighbor (loud stereo at all times of the day)', on Tue, 27 Jan
    2004:
    >Now, should it be "whaleing" or "whaling"? ;-)


    I don't see any need for the 'e'.
    --
    Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
    The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
    The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
    http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk
    John Woodgate, Jan 27, 2004
    #13
  14. FreebsdOp

    Active8 Guest

    On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:23:59 GMT, Spehro Pefhany <Spehro Pefhany
    <>> said...
    > On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:21:50 GMT, the renowned Active8
    > <,invalid> wrote:
    >
    > >On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:04:47 +0000,
    > >said...
    > >> I read in sci.electronics.design that Active8 <mTHISREMOVEcolasono@earth
    > >> link.net> wrote (in <>
    > >> ) about 'Help with noisy neighbor (loud stereo at all times of the
    > >> day)', on Tue, 27 Jan 2004:
    > >>
    > >> >wail
    > >> whale?
    > >>

    > >Wales?
    > >
    > >No. Wail as in wail on someone's head, door, etc. It's an
    > >Americanism.

    >
    > M-W has the following entry:
    >
    > Main Entry: 3whale
    > Function: transitive verb
    > Inflected Form(s): whaled; whal·ing
    > Etymology: origin unknown
    > 1 : LASH, THRASH
    > 2 : to strike or hit vigorously
    > 3 : to defeat soundly
    >
    > But no comparable meaning for "wail". Despite that, Google indicates
    > (with only a very small sample, I might add) that it's more often
    > misspelt than not.
    >
    > Best regards,
    > Spehro Pefhany
    >

    Ok. My mistake. I figured "wail" as in "scream" or "cry" both being
    action verbs, but that whipped with a whale bone explaination makes
    sense. Chaulk up another for you for enriching my vocab :) You did
    provide the final def, after all.
    --
    Best Regards,
    Mike
    Active8, Jan 28, 2004
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  15. FreebsdOp

    Max Hauser Guest

    "Active8" <,invalid> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:23:59 GMT, Spehro Pefhany <Spehro Pefhany
    > <>> said...
    > > On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:21:50 GMT, the renowned Active8
    > > <,invalid> wrote:
    > >
    > > >On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:04:47 +0000,
    > > >said...
    > > >> I read in sci.electronics.design that Active8

    <mTHISREMOVEcolasono@earth
    > > >> link.net> wrote (in

    <>
    > > >> ) about 'Help with noisy neighbor (loud stereo at all times of the
    > > >> day)', on Tue, 27 Jan 2004:
    > > >>
    > > >> >wail
    > > >> whale?
    > > >>
    > > >Wales?
    > > >
    > > >No. Wail as in wail on someone's head, door, etc. It's an
    > > >Americanism.

    > >
    > > M-W has the following entry:
    > >
    > > Main Entry: 3whale
    > > Function: transitive verb
    > > Inflected Form(s): whaled; whal·ing
    > > Etymology: origin unknown
    > > 1 : LASH, THRASH
    > > 2 : to strike or hit vigorously
    > > 3 : to defeat soundly
    > >
    > > But no comparable meaning for "wail". Despite that, Google indicates
    > > (with only a very small sample, I might add) that it's more often
    > > misspelt than not.
    > >
    > > Best regards,
    > > Spehro Pefhany
    > >

    > Ok. My mistake. I figured "wail" as in "scream" or "cry" both being
    > action verbs, but that whipped with a whale bone explaination makes
    > sense. Chaulk up another for you for enriching my vocab :) You did
    > provide the final def, after all.
    > --
    > Best Regards,
    > Mike


    Outstanding.
    Max Hauser, Jan 28, 2004
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  16. FreebsdOp

    FreebsdOp Guest

    Wow, tons of replies, thank you all very much. My original post was to get
    an idea of the tricks I could use to give back to the idiot noise maker what
    he is giving out unwanted.
    Another thing thta makes this difficult is that I'm a noob at electronics
    (not computers though :)
    If there would be a way (if yes, please explain it in noob terms, with
    pictures and radio shack part #'s would be superb) to just interfere with
    the stereo reception. I did hear the radio announce it's label, 102.9 FM.
    Would such an idea work with a small fm transmitter and a radio shack cb
    antenna cause enough interference to mess him up bad? I did ask this in the
    original post and didn't see any replies except to not do it :-(
    BTW, I would run that device ONLY when bothered, that should teach the
    bass-freak!

    Thanks a bunch,

    FreeBSDop
    FreebsdOp, Jan 28, 2004
    #16
  17. FreebsdOp

    Bill Bailley Guest

    "FreebsdOp" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Wow, tons of replies, thank you all very much. My original post was to get
    > an idea of the tricks I could use to give back to the idiot noise maker

    what
    > he is giving out unwanted.
    > Another thing thta makes this difficult is that I'm a noob at electronics
    > (not computers though :)
    > If there would be a way (if yes, please explain it in noob terms, with
    > pictures and radio shack part #'s would be superb) to just interfere with
    > the stereo reception. I did hear the radio announce it's label, 102.9 FM.
    > Would such an idea work with a small fm transmitter and a radio shack cb
    > antenna cause enough interference to mess him up bad? I did ask this in

    the
    > original post and didn't see any replies except to not do it :-(
    > BTW, I would run that device ONLY when bothered, that should teach the
    > bass-freak!
    >
    > Thanks a bunch,
    >
    > FreeBSDop
    >



    Sorry. We are the good guys here. You need to check out

    sci.electronics.design.jammers.mind your fingers.clang

    Luck,
    Bill
    Bill Bailley, Jan 28, 2004
    #17
  18. I read in sci.electronics.design that FreebsdOp <>
    wrote (in <>) about 'Help with noisy
    neighbor (loud stereo at all times of the day)', on Wed, 28 Jan 2004:
    >Wow, tons of replies, thank you all very much. My original post was to get
    >an idea of the tricks I could use to give back to the idiot noise maker what
    >he is giving out unwanted.
    >Another thing thta makes this difficult is that I'm a noob at electronics
    >(not computers though :)
    >If there would be a way (if yes, please explain it in noob terms, with
    >pictures and radio shack part #'s would be superb) to just interfere with
    >the stereo reception. I did hear the radio announce it's label, 102.9 FM.
    >Would such an idea work with a small fm transmitter and a radio shack cb
    >antenna cause enough interference to mess him up bad? I did ask this in the
    >original post and didn't see any replies except to not do it :-(
    >BTW, I would run that device ONLY when bothered, that should teach the
    >bass-freak!
    >

    An illegal FM-band radio microphone tuned to 102.9 might well pick up
    enough of the noise to create a feedback loop. That should be
    interesting. If he asks you about the screeching, tell him some cock-
    and-bull technical waffle and say that if he keeps the volume turned
    down a bit, it won't happen, which will be true.
    --
    Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
    The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
    The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
    http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk
    John Woodgate, Jan 28, 2004
    #18
  19. FreebsdOp

    GPG Guest

    "Playing music loudly with your windows open can annoy your neighbours.
    Setting fire to their rubbish bins is another good way" ,Spike Milligan(Dec)
    GPG, Jan 28, 2004
    #19
  20. FreebsdOp

    Fred Bloggs Guest

    FreebsdOp wrote:
    > Wow, tons of replies, thank you all very much. My original post was to get
    > an idea of the tricks I could use to give back to the idiot noise maker what
    > he is giving out unwanted.
    > Another thing thta makes this difficult is that I'm a noob at electronics
    > (not computers though :)
    > If there would be a way (if yes, please explain it in noob terms, with
    > pictures and radio shack part #'s would be superb) to just interfere with
    > the stereo reception. I did hear the radio announce it's label, 102.9 FM.
    > Would such an idea work with a small fm transmitter and a radio shack cb
    > antenna cause enough interference to mess him up bad? I did ask this in the
    > original post and didn't see any replies except to not do it :-(
    > BTW, I would run that device ONLY when bothered, that should teach the
    > bass-freak!
    >
    > Thanks a bunch,
    >
    > FreeBSDop
    >


    Forget the wimpy and ineffective FM stuff- underpowered advice. Install
    X-10 remote control to contactor in-line with his mains feed and shut
    him down for 10 seconds when the music comes on. Camouflage the
    contactor assembly as lightning suppresser.
    Fred Bloggs, Jan 28, 2004
    #20
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