ESL 1500 transformer

Discussion in 'Security Alarms' started by Jake, Jul 26, 2008.

  1. Jake

    Jake Guest

    Hello all,

    I have an ESL 1500 5 zone FACP missing a transformer. It would appear
    the previous installer removed it. The previous installer, an
    electrician lost his alarm guy so its now on me to install. My
    knowledge base is with Fire-Lite and Notifier this is probably my
    third time dealing with one and my first installing one. I am unsure
    if the transformer comes pre-installed or not I do not see anything
    about installing it in the manual so my guess ?? is that it was
    installed at the time of delivery but removed at one point but that is
    just speculation.

    Does anyone have an old can laying around with a transformer in it?
    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Jake
     
    Jake, Jul 26, 2008
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  2. Jake

    Bob Guest

    Jake wrote:
    > Hello all,
    >
    > I have an ESL 1500 5 zone FACP missing a transformer. It would appear
    > the previous installer removed it. The previous installer, an
    > electrician lost his alarm guy so its now on me to install. My
    > knowledge base is with Fire-Lite and Notifier this is probably my
    > third time dealing with one and my first installing one. I am unsure
    > if the transformer comes pre-installed or not I do not see anything
    > about installing it in the manual so my guess ?? is that it was
    > installed at the time of delivery but removed at one point but that is
    > just speculation.
    >
    > Does anyone have an old can laying around with a transformer in it?
    > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    >
    > Jake
    >

    that puppy hooks straight to AC doesn't it?
     
    Bob, Jul 26, 2008
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  3. Jake

    Jim Guest

    On Jul 25, 6:59�pm, Jake <> wrote:
    > Hello all,
    >
    > I have an ESL 1500 5 zone FACP missing a transformer. It would appear
    > the previous installer removed it. The previous installer, an
    > electrician lost his alarm guy so its now on me to install. �My
    > knowledge base is with Fire-Lite and Notifier this is probably my
    > third time dealing with one and my first installing one. I am unsure
    > if the transformer comes pre-installed or not I do not see anything
    > about installing it in the manual so my guess ?? is that it was
    > installed at the time of delivery but removed at one point but that is
    > just speculation.
    >
    > Does anyone have an old can laying around with a transformer in it?
    > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    >
    > Jake


    I think I remember that there was a 24V and a 120VAC model. You should
    make sure which one you have first.

    Why not just call ESL? If the installation is to code, you're going to
    need the transformer that the panel was approved with...... anyway.
     
    Jim, Jul 26, 2008
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  4. Jake

    Frank Olson Guest

    Jake wrote:
    > Hello all,
    >
    > I have an ESL 1500 5 zone FACP missing a transformer. It would appear
    > the previous installer removed it. The previous installer, an
    > electrician lost his alarm guy so its now on me to install. My
    > knowledge base is with Fire-Lite and Notifier this is probably my
    > third time dealing with one and my first installing one. I am unsure
    > if the transformer comes pre-installed or not I do not see anything
    > about installing it in the manual so my guess ?? is that it was
    > installed at the time of delivery but removed at one point but that is
    > just speculation.
    >
    > Does anyone have an old can laying around with a transformer in it?
    > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    >
    > Jake
    >



    GE still supports this product. A replacement transformer is available
    with the proper connector for the circuit board. Contact your local
    distributor to obtain one. Do you have the installation manual???
     
    Frank Olson, Jul 26, 2008
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  5. Jake

    Bob La Londe Guest

    "Frank Olson" <> wrote in message
    news:u_Gik.32225$nD.17875@pd7urf1no...
    > Jake wrote:
    >> Hello all,
    >>
    >> I have an ESL 1500 5 zone FACP missing a transformer. It would appear
    >> the previous installer removed it. The previous installer, an
    >> electrician lost his alarm guy so its now on me to install. My
    >> knowledge base is with Fire-Lite and Notifier this is probably my
    >> third time dealing with one and my first installing one. I am unsure
    >> if the transformer comes pre-installed or not I do not see anything
    >> about installing it in the manual so my guess ?? is that it was
    >> installed at the time of delivery but removed at one point but that is
    >> just speculation.
    >>
    >> Does anyone have an old can laying around with a transformer in it?
    >> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    >>
    >> Jake
    >>

    >
    >
    > GE still supports this product. A replacement transformer is available
    > with the proper connector for the circuit board. Contact your local
    > distributor to obtain one. Do you have the installation manual???


    You know I had not even thought to check. I picked up the annual service
    inspection on an ESL1500 last year because another company had told the
    owner that it was a no-longer supported panel. I just downloaded the
    manuals from Jim's Site.

    Of course the first thing I noticed was that they had two 4ah batteries in
    it, and when I did a battery calculation it barely made the 24+5. Figure if
    the batteries are more than a month old capacity has started to fade... I
    swapped in a couple 7AH batteries.
     
    Bob La Londe, Jul 26, 2008
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  6. Jake

    Jake Guest

    Hi

    The manual shows a replacement part number if 1500-TR. I could order
    one with no problem but I am doing this install as a favor on the side
    and I don't want to charge them for a transformer that should have
    been there in the first place.. Which is why I was hoping someone had
    a spare or used one just to get this system online.

    For those that know this panel.. I assume all transformers would be
    the same output voltage to the panel correct? I cant imagine there
    would be any other output that 24.

    Thanks
     
    Jake, Jul 26, 2008
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  7. Jake

    Frank Olson Guest

    Robert L Bass wrote:
    > "Bob La Londe" wrote:
    >>
    >> Of course the first thing I noticed was that they had two 4ah
    >> batteries in it, and when I did a battery calculation it barely made
    >> the 24+5. Figure if the batteries are more than a month old capacity
    >> has started to fade... I swapped in a couple 7AH batteries.

    >
    > They put 4AH batteries in a fire panel? Good grief!
    >



    You'd be amazed. We recently took over a building with an Edwards (GE)
    verified fire alarm system. The main lobby panel drew 1.3 Amps in
    supervisory. The batteries Edwards supplied were 7 AH. It's an EST-3
    with full EVAC. The building's 21 stories. The amplifier cabinets had
    48 AH batteries, but a fat lot of good they were going to do when the
    common control would die after about 5 hours.

    On another building we were called in to consult on, one of the biggest
    names in the fire prevention industry (in our area) replaced all the
    smoke detectors with System Sensor 1400A's. They're not even
    cross-listed to the the Edwards 6500 (the common control in this
    particular building). "Certified Technicians" too. Right!!
     
    Frank Olson, Jul 28, 2008
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  8. Jake

    Frank Olson Guest

    Robert L Bass wrote:
    >


    > Great planning. :^)


    That's not the word for it. It's down right criminal. In Vancouver a
    fire alarm EVAC system (in what they term a "tall building" - over 11
    stories) has to be able to supervise for 24 hours and then operate for
    two hours. The batteries in the amplifier cabinet were barely adequate.



    > How long ago was that?


    I'll have to pull the file when I get to the office later this morning.
    I do recall seeing several inspection tags (from previous companies)
    that had "cleared" the system. The company that called me in on the
    consultation red tagged it.
     
    Frank Olson, Jul 28, 2008
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