Caddx NX-148E Problems

Discussion in 'Security Alarms' started by Phil, Jan 17, 2005.

  1. Phil

    Phil Guest

    I have a Caddx NX-8 control panel with a NX-216 zone expander and 4
    NX-148E keypads that was installed about 18 months ago by a relative
    who did have his own alarm business. This relative was killed in a car
    wreck shortly after installing my system so I have no one to turn to.

    The problem is that last night the keypads just started beeping. The
    fire light on the keypads started blinking and the siren did go off. I
    entered *7 but this did not do anything. I put in my user code and it
    did silence it for a couple of minutes but eventually the siren went
    off again. I ended up unplugging the control panel and battery.

    Service required type *2 for help did appear on the keypad. When I
    checked this I had two errors:

    Expansion Box Tamper
    Expasion Trouble

    Any ideas? I should also add that it did do the same thing about 17
    months ago but it only did it once and then it stopped until now.

    Phil
    Phil, Jan 17, 2005
    #1
  2. Phil

    Mark Leuck Guest

    Sounds like you have a problem with a smoke detector

    "Phil" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > I have a Caddx NX-8 control panel with a NX-216 zone expander and 4
    > NX-148E keypads that was installed about 18 months ago by a relative
    > who did have his own alarm business. This relative was killed in a car
    > wreck shortly after installing my system so I have no one to turn to.
    >
    > The problem is that last night the keypads just started beeping. The
    > fire light on the keypads started blinking and the siren did go off. I
    > entered *7 but this did not do anything. I put in my user code and it
    > did silence it for a couple of minutes but eventually the siren went
    > off again. I ended up unplugging the control panel and battery.
    >
    > Service required type *2 for help did appear on the keypad. When I
    > checked this I had two errors:
    >
    > Expansion Box Tamper
    > Expasion Trouble
    >
    > Any ideas? I should also add that it did do the same thing about 17
    > months ago but it only did it once and then it stopped until now.
    >
    > Phil
    >
    Mark Leuck, Jan 17, 2005
    #2
  3. Phil

    Phil Guest

    What would be the easiest way to determine this? How long will all my
    programming stay in memory since the system and battery is unplugged?


    Mark Leuck wrote:
    > Sounds like you have a problem with a smoke detector
    >
    > "Phil" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > I have a Caddx NX-8 control panel with a NX-216 zone expander and 4
    > > NX-148E keypads that was installed about 18 months ago by a

    relative
    > > who did have his own alarm business. This relative was killed in a

    car
    > > wreck shortly after installing my system so I have no one to turn

    to.
    > >
    > > The problem is that last night the keypads just started beeping.

    The
    > > fire light on the keypads started blinking and the siren did go

    off. I
    > > entered *7 but this did not do anything. I put in my user code and

    it
    > > did silence it for a couple of minutes but eventually the siren

    went
    > > off again. I ended up unplugging the control panel and battery.
    > >
    > > Service required type *2 for help did appear on the keypad. When I
    > > checked this I had two errors:
    > >
    > > Expansion Box Tamper
    > > Expasion Trouble
    > >
    > > Any ideas? I should also add that it did do the same thing about

    17
    > > months ago but it only did it once and then it stopped until now.
    > >
    > > Phil
    > >
    Phil, Jan 18, 2005
    #3
  4. Phil

    Phil Guest

    Maybe it is a smoke detector problem? My smoke detectors are ESL
    429CST. I found one web page that says this detector is not compatible
    with Caddx control panels. Is this true? How can I bypass the smoke
    detectors to see if my system will work?




    Phil wrote:
    > I have a Caddx NX-8 control panel with a NX-216 zone expander and 4
    > NX-148E keypads that was installed about 18 months ago by a relative
    > who did have his own alarm business. This relative was killed in a

    car
    > wreck shortly after installing my system so I have no one to turn to.
    >
    > The problem is that last night the keypads just started beeping. The
    > fire light on the keypads started blinking and the siren did go off.

    I
    > entered *7 but this did not do anything. I put in my user code and

    it
    > did silence it for a couple of minutes but eventually the siren went
    > off again. I ended up unplugging the control panel and battery.
    >
    > Service required type *2 for help did appear on the keypad. When I
    > checked this I had two errors:
    >
    > Expansion Box Tamper
    > Expasion Trouble
    >
    > Any ideas? I should also add that it did do the same thing about 17
    > months ago but it only did it once and then it stopped until now.
    >
    > Phil
    Phil, Jan 18, 2005
    #4
  5. Phil

    alarman Guest

    Phil wrote
    > The problem is that last night the keypads just started beeping. The
    > fire light on the keypads started blinking and the siren did go off. I
    > entered *7 but this did not do anything. I put in my user code and it
    > did silence it for a couple of minutes but eventually the siren went
    > off again. I ended up unplugging the control panel and battery.


    Are ther smoke detectors connected to the system? If so what brand and how
    many? Do any of them have a red led that stays on?

    > Service required type *2 for help did appear on the keypad. When I
    > checked this I had two errors:
    >
    > Expansion Box Tamper
    > Expasion Trouble


    Before or after your alarm occurred?

    js
    alarman, Jan 18, 2005
    #5
  6. Phil

    observer Guest

    "Phil" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Maybe it is a smoke detector problem? My smoke detectors are ESL
    > 429CST. I found one web page that says this detector is not compatible
    > with Caddx control panels. Is this true? How can I bypass the smoke
    > detectors to see if my system will work?
    >

    those detectors are OK.
    take the 2 wires off zone 8 and the common terminal next to it and replace
    them with a 680 ohm resistor. that will remove them from the system. then
    you can power up and see if the problem has gone away.
    observer, Jan 18, 2005
    #6
  7. Phil

    alarman Guest

    Phil wrote
    >How long will all my
    > programming stay in memory since the system and battery is unplugged?


    Your programming will remain indefinitely.
    js
    alarman, Jan 18, 2005
    #7
  8. Phil

    alarman Guest

    Phil wrote
    > Maybe it is a smoke detector problem? My smoke detectors are ESL
    > 429CST. I found one web page that says this detector is not compatible
    > with Caddx control panels. Is this true? How can I bypass the smoke
    > detectors to see if my system will work?


    The ESL429CST is not listed for use with the NX8. You need to replace them
    with a model compatible with that panel like an ESL 429AT, 521 or System
    Sensor 2WT-B. These do not have integral sounders like the 429CST however.
    js
    alarman, Jan 18, 2005
    #8
  9. Phil

    Paul Guest

    Might not be a smoke detector problem. When NX panels get zapped by
    lightning or get a power surge the fire light rapidly flashes rapildy. So
    could be quite serious.

    Try powering the panel down and back up again. Sometimes this works

    Paul


    "alarman" <> wrote in message
    news:uRYGd.3847$hu.1421@fed1read01...
    > Phil wrote
    >> The problem is that last night the keypads just started beeping. The
    >> fire light on the keypads started blinking and the siren did go off. I
    >> entered *7 but this did not do anything. I put in my user code and it
    >> did silence it for a couple of minutes but eventually the siren went
    >> off again. I ended up unplugging the control panel and battery.

    >
    > Are ther smoke detectors connected to the system? If so what brand and how
    > many? Do any of them have a red led that stays on?
    >
    >> Service required type *2 for help did appear on the keypad. When I
    >> checked this I had two errors:
    >>
    >> Expansion Box Tamper
    >> Expasion Trouble

    >
    > Before or after your alarm occurred?
    >
    > js
    >
    >
    Paul, Jan 18, 2005
    #9
  10. Phil

    observer Guest

    "alarman" <> wrote in message
    news:Sr_Gd.3861$hu.3394@fed1read01...
    > Phil wrote
    > > Maybe it is a smoke detector problem? My smoke detectors are ESL
    > > 429CST. I found one web page that says this detector is not compatible
    > > with Caddx control panels. Is this true? How can I bypass the smoke
    > > detectors to see if my system will work?

    >
    > The ESL429CST is not listed for use with the NX8. You need to replace them
    > with a model compatible with that panel like an ESL 429AT, 521 or System
    > Sensor 2WT-B. These do not have integral sounders like the 429CST however.
    > js


    I was thinking they were the ones with the integral heat. My bad.
    The bypass instructions I gave should still work, though. :)
    observer, Jan 18, 2005
    #10

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