Art of electronics ... 3rd edition?

Discussion in 'Electronic Design' started by Paul Rosen, Feb 8, 2004.

  1. Paul Rosen

    Paul Rosen Guest

    Hi @ll

    I have found in a german group, that the 3rd editon of the book
    "Horowitz, Hill - art of electronics" shall be released in march 2004.
    This means, next month. Does anybody know something about this?

    --
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    wünscht jedem viel Spaß im Usenet
    und grüßt alle, die dies lesen.
    Macht's gut :)
    Paul Rosen, Feb 8, 2004
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  2. Paul Rosen wrote...
    >
    >Hi @ll
    >
    >I have found in a german group, that the 3rd editon of the book
    >"Horowitz, Hill - art of electronics" shall be released in march 2004.
    >This means, next month. Does anybody know something about this?


    urban myth

    Thanks,
    - Win

    whill_at_picovolt-dot-com
    Winfield Hill, Feb 8, 2004
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  3. In article <>,
    Winfield Hill <> wrote:

    >Paul Rosen wrote...
    >>
    >>Hi @ll
    >>
    >>I have found in a german group, that the 3rd editon of the book
    >>"Horowitz, Hill - art of electronics" shall be released in march 2004.
    >>This means, next month. Does anybody know something about this?

    >
    > urban myth
    >
    > Thanks,
    > - Win
    >
    > whill_at_picovolt-dot-com


    <Bugs Bunny mode ON>

    Ah... whadda you know, buddy?

    <Bugs Bunny mode OFF>
    Ralph & Diane Barone, Feb 8, 2004
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  4. Paul Rosen

    Paul Rosen Guest

    Winfield Hill <> schrieb:

    >Paul Rosen wrote...


    >>"Horowitz, Hill - art of electronics" shall be released in march 2004.
    >>This means, next month. Does anybody know something about this?

    >
    > urban myth
    >
    > Thanks,
    > - Win


    Oooooooooooh, that seems to be the author himself. :-O .
    Never thought to see him here.
    This should be the most authoritative disclosure, I ever could get
    elsewhere. :)

    --
    Paul dankt den Helfern,
    wünscht jedem viel Spaß im Usenet
    und grüßt alle, die dies lesen.
    Macht's gut :)
    Paul Rosen, Feb 8, 2004
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  5. Paul Rosen

    Ben Bradley Guest

    In sci.electronics.design, Winfield Hill
    <> wrote:

    >Paul Rosen wrote...
    >>
    >>Hi @ll
    >>
    >>I have found in a german group, that the 3rd editon of the book
    >>"Horowitz, Hill - art of electronics" shall be released in march 2004.


    And there's a Bob Dylan song about a man in prison, "I shall be
    released."

    >>This means, next month. Does anybody know something about this?

    >
    > urban myth


    I searched for "art of electronics" at snopes.com and I get:

    Are the NEA, NPR, PBS, and Sesame Street in danger of extinction due
    to government cutbacks?

    Can CD sound quality be improved with green marking pens?

    Did a hip-hop group release an album depicting an exploding World
    Trade Center on the cover?

    None of which have any info on any alleged release date of a book.

    A search on urbanlegends.com gives the same "Internal Server Error"
    error that it's been giving for months. But wait, there's this:

    http://urbanlegends.com/people/dredged.html

    No, it's not Janet Jackson's you-know-what, it's an expose' on
    those urban legends sites. Looks like News2020 might be right.

    Maybe I should get off this Usenet thing (it's nothing but
    unsubstantiated urban legends anyway) and go through that 2nd Edition,
    looking for (more) duplicated circuits. And if I'm not careful, I
    might learn something...

    > Thanks,
    > - Win
    >
    > whill_at_picovolt-dot-com


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    http://mindspring.com/~benbradley
    Ben Bradley, Feb 8, 2004
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  6. On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 01:00:14 -0500, Ben Bradley
    <> wrote:

    > A search on urbanlegends.com gives the same "Internal Server Error"
    >error that it's been giving for months. But wait, there's this:
    >
    >http://urbanlegends.com/people/dredged.html
    >
    > No, it's not Janet Jackson's you-know-what, it's an expose' on
    >those urban legends sites. Looks like News2020 might be right.


    uh, why is the expose posted on the very site they claim they're
    trying to expose?
    Philip A. Marshall, Feb 8, 2004
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  7. I read in sci.electronics.design that Paul Rosen <> wrote
    (in <>) about 'Art of
    electronics ... 3rd edition?', on Sun, 8 Feb 2004:
    >I have found in a german group, that the 3rd editon of the book
    >"Horowitz, Hill - art of electronics" shall be released in march 2004.
    >This means, next month. Does anybody know something about this?


    Yes; it's a proof that you shouldn't believe anything you read on Usenet
    without confirmation.

    Alternatively, maybe that's 2004 on the Muslim calendar. (;-)
    --
    Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
    The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
    The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
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    John Woodgate, Feb 8, 2004
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  8. I read in sci.electronics.design that Paul Rosen <> wrote
    (in <>) about 'Art of
    electronics ... 3rd edition?', on Sun, 8 Feb 2004:

    >Oooooooooooh, that seems to be the author himself. :-O . Never thought
    >to see him here.


    You are obviously a new inmate of this mad-house. Welcome!
    --
    Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
    The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
    The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
    http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk
    John Woodgate, Feb 8, 2004
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  9. Paul Rosen

    Rich Webb Guest

    On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 07:22:33 +0000, John Woodgate
    <> wrote:

    >I read in sci.electronics.design that Paul Rosen <> wrote
    >(in <>) about 'Art of
    >electronics ... 3rd edition?', on Sun, 8 Feb 2004:
    >>I have found in a german group, that the 3rd editon of the book
    >>"Horowitz, Hill - art of electronics" shall be released in march 2004.
    >>This means, next month. Does anybody know something about this?

    >
    >Yes; it's a proof that you shouldn't believe anything you read on Usenet
    >without confirmation.


    Sure, I can confirm it. I just received a brandy-new copy of the 2nd
    edition from Amazon last Thursday. Based on past experience, three days
    later is about when I would expect to hear that publication of the 3rd
    edition is imminent. 'Course, I could be wrong...

    --
    Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
    Rich Webb, Feb 8, 2004
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  10. >Sure, I can confirm it. I just received a brandy-new copy of the 2nd
    >edition from Amazon last Thursday. Based on past experience, three days
    >later is about when I would expect to hear that publication of the 3rd
    >edition is imminent. 'Course, I could be wrong...


    Just in case you are right, could you send Winfried a copy? Might save
    him a lot of writing!


    Wouter van Ooijen

    -- ------------------------------------
    http://www.voti.nl
    PICmicro chips, programmers, consulting
    Wouter van Ooijen, Feb 8, 2004
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  11. Wouter van Ooijen (www.voti.nl) wrote:

    > Just in case you are right, could you send Winfried a copy? Might save

    ^^^^ield

    --
    Cheers
    Stefan
    Stefan Heinzmann, Feb 8, 2004
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  12. Paul Rosen

    Paul Rosen Guest

    (Wouter van Ooijen (www.voti.nl)) schrieb:

    >> ..... expect to hear that publication of the 3rd
    >> edition is imminent.


    >Just in case you are right, could you send Winfried a copy? Might save
    >him a lot of writing!


    :-D Burst out laughing is good for the health.


    --
    Paul dankt den Helfern,
    wünscht jedem viel Spaß im Usenet
    und grüßt alle, die dies lesen.
    Macht's gut :)
    Paul Rosen, Feb 8, 2004
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  13. I received my copy of AoE 2nd Edition today (see Win, I did bite the
    bullet at the end). After my first skimming through it I can't hold back
    a few comments and questions, now that I know that one of the authors is
    listening.

    o It is a very useful book. I particularly like the easy-going style.
    It complements nicely the German Tietze/Schenk, which is a similar
    heavyweight (>1400 pages), but more rigorous, with more mathematics.
    (Has that ever been translated to English?)

    o Being educated as a computer scientist, I could not resist looking at
    the digital/computer parts first. It is quite apparent here that the
    book was written 15 years ago.

    o I tried to imagine what the future 3rd edition could possibly look
    like. I couldn't. There's such a lot of stuff that I would want to put
    in there that the book would explode. Things to include would be:
    Electronic design using HDL (VHDL, Verilog). FPGAs. Newer interfaces
    like USB, Firewire, PCI, Serial ATA, IrDA, Bluetooth, Wireless Ethernet.
    Cell phone technologies. DSP. Sigma-Delta Converters. Microcontroller
    programming in high level language. Multithreading kernels. Fuzzy logic
    (?). SPI and I²C buses. Circuit simulation (SPICE, IBIS). I could go on.
    How's that ever going to fit into one book? Win, haven't you despaired yet?

    o Math review on three pages. Cool.

    o The entire Chapter 12 is a testament to the down-to-earth character
    of the book. No "rigorous" scientific oevre would bother itself with
    this practical stuff. (Badly needs updating, though)

    o Although there's a bibliography with some minimal commentary in the
    appendix, I'd find it more useful to include footnotes in the normal
    text for pointing out additional sources of advice/information on the
    topic at hand. Maybe this can also be factored out to an accompanying
    web page.

    o Did we only have a handful of logic families in 1989? I can hardly
    believe it today! The sheer number of different logic families today
    makes the head spin and cries out for a road map.

    Ok, enough for now. I've got some reading to do...

    --
    Cheers
    Stefan
    Stefan Heinzmann, Feb 9, 2004
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  14. Paul Rosen

    Leeper Guest

    Mine is 1980, reprinted in 1981. Has the book changed much since then?


    "Stefan Heinzmann" <> wrote in message
    news:c08t4k$7q9$01$-online.com...
    > I received my copy of AoE 2nd Edition today (see Win, I did bite the
    > bullet at the end). After my first skimming through it I can't hold back
    > a few comments and questions, now that I know that one of the authors is
    > listening.
    >
    > o It is a very useful book. I particularly like the easy-going style.
    > It complements nicely the German Tietze/Schenk, which is a similar
    > heavyweight (>1400 pages), but more rigorous, with more mathematics.
    > (Has that ever been translated to English?)
    >
    > o Being educated as a computer scientist, I could not resist looking at
    > the digital/computer parts first. It is quite apparent here that the
    > book was written 15 years ago.
    >
    > o I tried to imagine what the future 3rd edition could possibly look
    > like. I couldn't. There's such a lot of stuff that I would want to put
    > in there that the book would explode. Things to include would be:
    > Electronic design using HDL (VHDL, Verilog). FPGAs. Newer interfaces
    > like USB, Firewire, PCI, Serial ATA, IrDA, Bluetooth, Wireless Ethernet.
    > Cell phone technologies. DSP. Sigma-Delta Converters. Microcontroller
    > programming in high level language. Multithreading kernels. Fuzzy logic
    > (?). SPI and I²C buses. Circuit simulation (SPICE, IBIS). I could go on.
    > How's that ever going to fit into one book? Win, haven't you despaired

    yet?
    >
    > o Math review on three pages. Cool.
    >
    > o The entire Chapter 12 is a testament to the down-to-earth character
    > of the book. No "rigorous" scientific oevre would bother itself with
    > this practical stuff. (Badly needs updating, though)
    >
    > o Although there's a bibliography with some minimal commentary in the
    > appendix, I'd find it more useful to include footnotes in the normal
    > text for pointing out additional sources of advice/information on the
    > topic at hand. Maybe this can also be factored out to an accompanying
    > web page.
    >
    > o Did we only have a handful of logic families in 1989? I can hardly
    > believe it today! The sheer number of different logic families today
    > makes the head spin and cries out for a road map.
    >
    > Ok, enough for now. I've got some reading to do...
    >
    > --
    > Cheers
    > Stefan
    >
    Leeper, Feb 12, 2004
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  15. Leeper wrote...
    >
    > Mine is 1980, reprinted in 1981. Has the book changed much since then?


    That's the first edition. The 2nd was dramatically larger and different.

    Thanks,
    - Win

    whill_at_picovolt-dot-com
    Winfield Hill, Feb 12, 2004
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  16. Paul Rosen

    Guy Macon Guest

    Is there an errata sheet for _The Art of Electronics_?
    I looked at http://www.artofelectronics.com/ and didn't find
    one. I have ever found an error in it, so perhaps it doesn't
    have an errata sheet...


    --
    Guy Macon, Electronics Engineer & Project Manager for hire.
    Remember Doc Brown from the _Back to the Future_ movies? Do you
    have an "impossible" engineering project that only someone like
    Doc Brown can solve? My resume is at http://www.guymacon.com/
    Guy Macon, Feb 12, 2004
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