ADT Safewatch Plus Entrepreneur Reset Master Code

Discussion in 'Security Alarms' started by Anthony, Jul 22, 2003.

  1. Anthony

    Anthony Guest

    Similar to many posts on this message board, I just purchased a home
    with an ADT Safewatch Plus Entrepreneur security system. I need to
    reprogram the master code because the previous owner failed to leave
    it. I was not able to find a definitive answer for reprogramming the
    master code in other posts.

    Could someone please detail the steps for me to reprogram the master
    code so I can actually use my alarm.

    Thanks.
     
    Anthony, Jul 22, 2003
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  2. Anthony

    Mark Leuck Guest

    Junk it and get something made within the last 12 years

    "Anthony" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Similar to many posts on this message board, I just purchased a home
    > with an ADT Safewatch Plus Entrepreneur security system. I need to
    > reprogram the master code because the previous owner failed to leave
    > it. I was not able to find a definitive answer for reprogramming the
    > master code in other posts.
    >
    > Could someone please detail the steps for me to reprogram the master
    > code so I can actually use my alarm.
    >
    > Thanks.
     
    Mark Leuck, Jul 22, 2003
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  3. Thanks for the response.

    I do own the system. I have the original paper work on that.

    I tried to get the code from the previous owners, however, they say they
    never armed the system and never used any codes. Therefore, they don't have
    one to give me. I agree with what you are saying below - it is pretty
    irresponsible for the previous owners to do this. Especially considering
    the high price I need to pay simply to have someone punch in a few numbers
    on the panel.

    That is the reason for my post. I want to see if there is some standard
    code that I can use to put in a new master code.

    I have already contacted ADT and they want $115 per half hour of work to
    send a technician out to my house. That is pretty much out of the question
    for me. Too high to get something so simple done.

    --Anthony


    "AlarmReview" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > >From: (Anthony)

    >
    > >I need to reprogram the master code
    > >because the previous owner failed to
    > >leave it. I was not able to find a definitive
    > >answer for reprogramming the master
    > >code in other posts.
    > >
    > >Could someone please detail the steps
    > >for me to reprogram the master code so
    > >I can actually use my alarm.

    >
    > First step is to determine the true ownership of the system. It's

    possible
    > that ADT may be the legal owners. If you cannot determine the ownership
    > through the previous homeowner's paperwork, a call to ADT will get the

    answer.
    > If ADT say's you own it, simple. If they say they own it, request a copy

    of
    > the "lease" paperwork for verification.
    >
    > If they own it, inquire about an out right purchase from them contingent

    on
    > them providing you with all access codes. I've found that ADT has been
    > accepting this. Now, that still places the financial burden on you and
    > relieved the previous homeowner from the responsibility of providing a

    free and
    > clear alarm system, but at least you have a system. Depending on what the

    cost
    > will be, you need to balance it versus the cost of obtaining a new system
    > directly.
    >
    > If ADT says you own it, your burden is still with the previous homeowner

    to
    > provide the codes at no charge. ADT can reprogram the system for you and
    > provide all the codes, but they will charge you for that service since

    you're
    > not a current client.
    >
    > It's an often assumed misconception that the installing alarmco is

    responsible
    > for providing a working system when a home is sold. The reality is, it's

    the
    > responsibility of the buyer and seller to ensure the alarm is what the

    seller
    > claims and the buyer thought. Even if the panel is locked out, the seller

    (if
    > they are selling the system as an owned system) was responsible for

    delivering
    > a working and programmable system to you. You as the buyer, was

    responsible
    > for inspecting the system to ensure it conformed to your requirements.
    >
    > So, where do you go from here? First, contact ADT. You'll never know

    what
    > they can and can't do for you until you call and ask. Don't assume a
    > particular answer from them, get it straight from the horses mouth.

    Second,
    > call around to other alarm companies (many good ones post on his NG),

    explain
    > the situation, making sure you let them know that you want full access to

    your
    > system and plan on not using their monitoring service. This will weed out
    > those that won't deal with you unless you accept monitoring. Finally, you

    will
    > have to accept the fact that this may cost you some money to solve. If

    you
    > were under the impression the alarm system was privately owned and fully

    usable
    > by you, you may have a claim against the previous owner if they misled

    you.
    > However, since you never had it inspected for functionality and programing
    > ability, it falls into the "as-is" clause in most residential sales.
    >
    > Although it really doesn't help you this time around, keep this lesson in

    mind
    > (pass it along to others) and make sure you treat the alarm as you would

    the
    > furnace, roofing, windows, etc.
    >
    > Rob-
    >
    > Security Review Group
    > The Security Review Group provides private independent security consulting

    and
    > is not affiliated with any selling, installing, servicing, or monitoring
    > company.
     
    Anthony Massa, Jul 23, 2003
    #3
  4. I understand what you are saying. But I am hoping to avoid putting in any
    additional money - this system should suffice.

    Hopefully there are some standard codes or some standard programming mode I
    can use to put in a new master code.

    Thanks.


    "Mark Leuck" <> wrote in message
    news:6miTa.119369$N7.16812@sccrnsc03...
    > Junk it and get something made within the last 12 years
    >
    > "Anthony" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > Similar to many posts on this message board, I just purchased a home
    > > with an ADT Safewatch Plus Entrepreneur security system. I need to
    > > reprogram the master code because the previous owner failed to leave
    > > it. I was not able to find a definitive answer for reprogramming the
    > > master code in other posts.
    > >
    > > Could someone please detail the steps for me to reprogram the master
    > > code so I can actually use my alarm.
    > >
    > > Thanks.

    >
    >
     
    Anthony Massa, Jul 23, 2003
    #4
  5. Anthony

    Cat Burglar Guest


    > I have already contacted ADT and they want $115 per half hour of work to
    > send a technician out to my house. That is pretty much out of the

    question
    > for me. Too high to get something so simple done.
    >
    > --Anthony
    >


    Why is it not done yet since it is "so simple done" ? How much do you think
    they should be charging you for such a simple job ? Are you willing to drive
    over to their office to pick up their technician and bring him home, then
    drop him off at the office when he's done with your simple job ? Is your
    time worth anything at all ?


    What's wrong with human being nowadays ? We pirate software, we copy movies,
    we share MP3s, etc. etc. don't we all want everything for free.
     
    Cat Burglar, Jul 23, 2003
    #5
  6. Anthony

    Mark Leuck Guest

    Junk it and get something made within the last 12 years

    "Anthony Massa" <> wrote in message
    news:DRnTa.1911$...
    > I understand what you are saying. But I am hoping to avoid putting in any
    > additional money - this system should suffice.
    >
    > Hopefully there are some standard codes or some standard programming mode

    I
    > can use to put in a new master code.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    >
    > "Mark Leuck" <> wrote in message
    > news:6miTa.119369$N7.16812@sccrnsc03...
    > > Junk it and get something made within the last 12 years
    > >
    > > "Anthony" <> wrote in message
    > > news:...
    > > > Similar to many posts on this message board, I just purchased a home
    > > > with an ADT Safewatch Plus Entrepreneur security system. I need to
    > > > reprogram the master code because the previous owner failed to leave
    > > > it. I was not able to find a definitive answer for reprogramming the
    > > > master code in other posts.
    > > >
    > > > Could someone please detail the steps for me to reprogram the master
    > > > code so I can actually use my alarm.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks.

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
     
    Mark Leuck, Jul 23, 2003
    #6
  7. Anthony

    Cat Burglar Guest

    Junk it and get something made within the last 2 years.



    "Mark Leuck" <> wrote in message
    news:cOpTa.111927$...
    > Junk it and get something made within the last 12 years
    >
    > "Anthony Massa" <> wrote in message
    > news:DRnTa.1911$...
     
    Cat Burglar, Jul 23, 2003
    #7
  8. Anthony

    me Guest

    "Anthony Massa" <> wrote in message
    news:sQnTa.1910$...
    > Thanks for the response.
    >
    > I do own the system. I have the original paper work on that.
    >
    > I tried to get the code from the previous owners, however, they say they
    > never armed the system and never used any codes. Therefore, they don't

    have
    > one to give me. I agree with what you are saying below - it is pretty
    > irresponsible for the previous owners to do this. Especially considering
    > the high price I need to pay simply to have someone punch in a few numbers
    > on the panel.
    >
    > That is the reason for my post. I want to see if there is some standard
    > code that I can use to put in a new master code.
    >
    > I have already contacted ADT and they want $115 per half hour of work to
    > send a technician out to my house. That is pretty much out of the

    question
    > for me. Too high to get something so simple done.
    >
    > --Anthony


    If the master code was originally programmed as "changeable", you must have
    the original master code to program a new one via user programming.
    Otherwise, it will need to be reprogrammed via "installer" programming,
    which only an alarm installer can access.
     
    me, Jul 23, 2003
    #8
  9. Anthony

    thesatguy Guest

    You would need the installers code to change the master user code.
    Otherwise you can't change it.

    "Anthony" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Similar to many posts on this message board, I just purchased a home
    > with an ADT Safewatch Plus Entrepreneur security system. I need to
    > reprogram the master code because the previous owner failed to leave
    > it. I was not able to find a definitive answer for reprogramming the
    > master code in other posts.
    >
    > Could someone please detail the steps for me to reprogram the master
    > code so I can actually use my alarm.
    >
    > Thanks.
     
    thesatguy, Jul 23, 2003
    #9
  10. Anthony

    Mark Leuck Guest

    Cancel cable tv? Is such a thing possible???


    "Nunya Bizness" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > If money is tight then cancel your CableTv, and spend the money on better
    > protecting your home. Safety first.
    >
    > Subject: Re: ADT Safewatch Plus Entrepreneur Reset Master Code
    > From: "Anthony Massa"
    > Date: 7/23/03 12:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time
    > Message-id: <DRnTa.1911$>
    >
    > I understand what you are saying. But I am hoping to avoid putting in any
    > additional money - this system should suffice.
    >
    > Hopefully there are some standard codes or some standard programming mode

    I
    > can use to put in a new master code.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    >
    > "Mark Leuck" <> wrote in message
    > news:6miTa.119369$N7.16812@sccrnsc03...
    > > Junk it and get something made within the last 12 years
    > >
    > > "Anthony" <> wrote in message
    > > news:...
    > > > Similar to many posts on this message board, I just purchased a home
    > > > with an ADT Safewatch Plus Entrepreneur security system. I need to
    > > > reprogram the master code because the previous owner failed to leave
    > > > it. I was not able to find a definitive answer for reprogramming the
    > > > master code in other posts.
    > > >
    > > > Could someone please detail the steps for me to reprogram the master
    > > > code so I can actually use my alarm.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks.

    > >
    > >
     
    Mark Leuck, Jul 23, 2003
    #10
  11. Anthony

    Cat Burglar Guest

    Oh absolutely yes. Tell them you are moving and you don't need the service
    anymore. They will stop the billing, but they won't bother to come around
    and disconnect the actually cable for a few months.

    "Mark Leuck" <> wrote in message
    news:9mvTa.125080$N7.18491@sccrnsc03...
    > Cancel cable tv? Is such a thing possible???
    >
    >
     
    Cat Burglar, Jul 23, 2003
    #11
  12. Anthony

    Anthony Guest

    I appologize for the "simple" comment. It was not my intent to insult
    anyone with expertise in this area. It was more of a comment about
    paying such a high price ($115 per half hour) to spend only a few
    moments correcting something that I feel (just my opinion) should be
    corrected by the company since it is there equipment.

    I agree that the expertise is what the high price is for. Sorry.

    I was looking for a way that I could obtain a portion of that
    expertise to reset the master code in a less expensive way than paying
    one of their technicians. It's clear from talking to them on the
    phone that they have the ability to do this (possibly remotely),
    however, they don't want to do it unless I pay them. Business is
    business. However, I guess I also have the option to not use them!

    Any technical comments on how things I can try are much appreciated.



    (Ejm01) wrote in message news:<>...
    > There have been several lawsuits published lately that basically stated that if
    > you own your system the alarm company cannot deny you access to the system, and
    > in addition, unless your contract stipulates otherwise, they cannot charge you
    > to default the panel. It's the same as buying a car and the seller refuses to
    > give you the keys.
    >
    > However, your best bet is to upgrade your system. Check with the group - Some
    > of them offer do-it-yourself panels and will gladly walk you through the change
    > out and programing. This way you will have complete control of your system.
    >
    > As for paying for something simple, most of us had to spend several years
    > working for companies that paid just about nothing, attended CEU classes, and
    > put up with a bunch of arrogant idiots just to learn those simple tricks. On
    > one of my service calls yesterday, I shut the kids bedroom window to clear the
    > panel. Simple, but damnit I knew to shut the window.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > This message is coming to you from sunny South Padre Island, Texas
    > AlarmTech System
    > Corpus Christi, TX
     
    Anthony, Jul 25, 2003
    #12
  13. Anthony

    Anthony Guest

    Right. I own the equipment. My statement about it being their
    equipment is that it has their name on it. They built it (I know they
    might have just tagged it with their name, but my point is that it is
    their product that I purchased).

    However, they have the information that I need to enable me to use
    their equipment that I own. Clearly from talking to them on the phone
    they can do this over the phone or tell me how to do it. They are
    holding me hostage in a way. It doesn't reflect well on their
    business in my opinion.

    I mean if they aren't willing to share a little advice over the phone,
    do they really think I want to sign a monitoring contract with them.




    "me" <> wrote in message news:<4k4Ua.25430$>...
    > He clearly stated in his 2nd post that he owns the system, and has the
    > original contract to prove this.
    >
    >
    > "SS" <> wrote in message
    > news:ys3Ua.20702$...
    > > VERY Rarely does ADT CORPORATE come to someones home and take out a system
    > > that is already there...
    > > they will try to sign u up or walk away if the system was installed by a

    > ADT
    > > DEALER...both will not give you support until u sign -up .
    > > whats bad about this group is, they very seldom answer a question with
    > > straight answer... any local alram company will re-program your system for

    > a
    > > modest fee...
    > > $115.00 is a fair price here in So Calif...you can also buy a new panel

    > from
    > > the many people here on this group...R-Bass,J,Rojas..etc..
    > > good-luck
    > >
    > > "me" <> wrote in message
    > > news:aA1Ua.25394$...
    > > > Call around and get 3 competitive bids to reset the system.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >
     
    Anthony, Jul 25, 2003
    #13
  14. Anthony

    Mark Leuck Guest

    "Anthony" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Right. I own the equipment. My statement about it being their
    > equipment is that it has their name on it. They built it (I know they
    > might have just tagged it with their name, but my point is that it is
    > their product that I purchased).
    >
    > However, they have the information that I need to enable me to use
    > their equipment that I own. Clearly from talking to them on the phone
    > they can do this over the phone or tell me how to do it. They are
    > holding me hostage in a way. It doesn't reflect well on their
    > business in my opinion.


    They are not holding you hostage in any way, the equipment is yours but you
    are not a customer of ADT's therefore they do not owe you anything

    > I mean if they aren't willing to share a little advice over the phone,
    > do they really think I want to sign a monitoring contract with them.


    I would do the same thing, I would not place myself in a state of liability
    walking someone who wasn't my customer through programming.

    Spend a little money and replace the panel



    >
    >
    >
    >
    > "me" <> wrote in message

    news:<4k4Ua.25430$>...
    > > He clearly stated in his 2nd post that he owns the system, and has the
    > > original contract to prove this.
    > >
    > >
    > > "SS" <> wrote in message
    > > news:ys3Ua.20702$...
    > > > VERY Rarely does ADT CORPORATE come to someones home and take out a

    system
    > > > that is already there...
    > > > they will try to sign u up or walk away if the system was installed by

    a
    > > ADT
    > > > DEALER...both will not give you support until u sign -up .
    > > > whats bad about this group is, they very seldom answer a question with
    > > > straight answer... any local alram company will re-program your system

    for
    > > a
    > > > modest fee...
    > > > $115.00 is a fair price here in So Calif...you can also buy a new

    panel
    > > from
    > > > the many people here on this group...R-Bass,J,Rojas..etc..
    > > > good-luck
    > > >
    > > > "me" <> wrote in message
    > > > news:aA1Ua.25394$...
    > > > > Call around and get 3 competitive bids to reset the system.
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
     
    Mark Leuck, Jul 25, 2003
    #14
  15. Anthony

    me Guest

    You caught us you crafty fellow, you. 1 2 3 4 is our secret code that we use
    to access programming. The jig is up, boys- time to try 2 3 4 5 instead.

    "Nathaniel Lind (New)" <> wrote in message
    news:60TUa.608$...
    > On some systems (not all, this may not pretain to you, I'm not a pro but
    > merely an "advanced Consumer/Alarm enthusiast) you can enter a code like
    > [1] [2] [3] [4] or [1] [2] [3] [4] [1] to access the system. Also, if
    > available, consult the owner's manual.
     
    me, Jul 28, 2003
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